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Edling

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Hello

Some of you might hate me for posting this suggestion but here it goes:

Eu has an economy wich is very similiar to the online poker rooms
You deposit money and get it in your account, whenever you play you a percentage is generated as revenue to the company.

The more you play the more you pay.

However Poker rooms reward loyal customers with points, rakeback, better customer support and entry to specific tournaments.
You get what you pay for, it have always ben like this.

Some of us pay alot more to play the game then others and they get nothing in return for doing so. You are even charged with a fee for depositing money into the game.

If more RCE morpgs enter the market i bet we will see a change in this just like the poker rooms did in the past.

What do you guys think?
 
I don't think that is a good idea, I like EU for what it is right now.
 
i believe that some incentives to depositors may be a real help; however, i believe too a good publicity in every difussion media (tv, movies,radios), to engaged more new players for the game is better
 
It already exist in the form of halloween gifts, christmas gifts, etc.

Of course, better incentives to deposit would be very nice.
 
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Xavier_Jr said:
i believe that some incentives to depositors may be a real help; however, i believe too a good publicity in every difussion media (tv, movies,radios), to engaged more new players for the game is better
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So you want them to get new players to the game rather then trying to keep the ones they already have, like yourself ?
 
mastermesh said:
It already exist in the form of halloween gifts, christmas gifts, etc.
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Those gifts are for everyone and if im not mistaken you can make an account the day before and get the reward the day after.
 
Edling said:
Those gifts are for everyone and if im not mistaken you can make an account the day before and get the reward the day after.
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There are usually 3 gifts. One for everyone, one for depositers and one for estate owners and ppl depositing more then 10k ped/year if im not mistaken :)
 
Wed said:
There are usually 3 gifts. One for everyone, one for depositers and one for estate owners and ppl depositing more then 10k ped/year if im not mistaken :)
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It was 5 years ago since i had the opertunity to get one of those gifts so i dont know how it is nowadays but if your right, its a step in the right direction.
 
If a few ppl who spends alot of time hunting tells me that this is a bad idee im gonna except defeat and move on :)
 
Edling said:
So you want them to get new players to the game rather then trying to keep the ones they already have, like yourself ?
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I believe that we are only a few number of depositors (maybe 20% of total of players) and the game needs more customers (depositors). We can not to hope to be the only solution for the economy, because we are the unique players paying for the game. We need more people ;)
 
Actually,

We need more PAYING people, that deposit.

The economy as such has no need for 100,000 freeloaders (non depositors) as they dont do squat to help the economic situation no matter how you twist it.

So, maybe a "reward programme" is due, something that tells people that you get something "for the trouble" of putting in your hard earned cash, the simple "You get peds for depositing" argument is severly flawed since there is no way to deposit without paying the fee (afaik? if im wrong, please tell me how to depo without the depo fee).

More depositing players (new, or existing) gives more for everyone in the terms of loot or whatnot, more freeloaders means LESS for everyone.

My two ranting pecs :)

// Exo
 
MA needs to reward depositors with real incentives like double skill gain or items of value or even better loots. Maybe loots could be correlated to how much you deposit. But probably wouldn't work either.
I really do agree though MA needs to look after it's depositing customers because we pay for everything in this game. MA wages, loots etc etc
 
There should be a "bonussystem" for depositing.
It should not give extra inside the game, like better loot and so on, since
a depo can go to another player, by a trade. No increase to the actuall
lootsystem there.
It should be based on a 0.00tt item that can be repaired.
It shouldn't be a "must-have" to be able to play the game.
But it should be a very attractive item.

Maybe a ESI per X amount of ped deposited, that can be repaired to 20ped?
 
exsolvo said:
Actually,

We need more PAYING people, that deposit.

The economy as such has no need for 100,000 freeloaders (non depositors) as they dont do squat to help the economic situation no matter how you twist it.

So, maybe a "reward programme" is due, something that tells people that you get something "for the trouble" of putting in your hard earned cash, the simple "You get peds for depositing" argument is severly flawed since there is no way to deposit without paying the fee (afaik? if im wrong, please tell me how to depo without the depo fee).

More depositing players (new, or existing) gives more for everyone in the terms of loot or whatnot, more freeloaders means LESS for everyone.

My two ranting pecs :)

// Exo
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Aye well said
 
Few Scars said:
MA needs to reward depositors with real incentives like double skill gain or items of value or even better loots. Maybe loots could be correlated to how much you deposit. But probably wouldn't work either.
I really do agree though MA needs to look after it's depositing customers because we pay for everything in this game. MA wages, loots etc etc
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Correct Sir, very correct
 
Joat said:
There should be a "bonussystem" for depositing.
It should not give extra inside the game, like better loot and so on, since
a depo can go to another player, by a trade. No increase to the actuall
lootsystem there.
It should be based on a 0.00tt item that can be repaired.
It shouldn't be a "must-have" to be able to play the game.
But it should be a very attractive item.

Maybe a ESI per X amount of ped deposited, that can be repaired to 20ped?
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As long as they get rewarded, MA probly can figure out the best way on how to do it.
 
Depositing alot and hunting alot generaly goes the same way.

There is exceptions ofcourse, the EU elite probly dont deposit anymore but still hunts alot.
 
Joat said:
There should be a "bonussystem" for depositing.
It should not give extra inside the game, like better loot and so on, since
a depo can go to another player, by a trade. No increase to the actuall
lootsystem there.
It should be based on a 0.00tt item that can be repaired.
It shouldn't be a "must-have" to be able to play the game.
But it should be a very attractive item.

Maybe a ESI per X amount of ped deposited, that can be repaired to 20ped?
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Maybe it coud work this way:

When you are about to deposit you have a list infront of you.

Deposit 1K and you get this item

Deposit 5K and you get this

Deposit 10k an even better item

All with a TT of 0 ofcourse.

This is actualy a very good idee, atleast in my opinion.
 
Loyalty programs work very well for a long time both in the provision of services and product sales, I see no reason to not work for the clients / players Mindark. I also believe that the system of gifts for special occasions is frankly inadequate and the objets that are delivered in such occasions havo no value as elements of player retention.

Planet Partners Mindark and should implement a recognition system based on the players:

  • deposits made
  • time in the game
  • frequency of connections
  • achievements (globals, HoF and ATH)

Receive awards for achieving certain objectives should be of different types:

  • UL objects that are not marketable
  • Access to areas, places or premium services
  • Titles that can be displayed and which are independent of the level of skills (which may vary to be sold or purchased).
 
If you look at it as in RL, i own my own buisness and i have x amount of cutomers...

customer A spends 10k euro/month

customar B spends 30k euro/month

Im trying to give both the best service possible ofc but if i have 1 of a thing both ask for ill give it to B... and to be honest, the best service possible are abit better for B :D

If i hade customers not paying at all i would get ride of them asap... as simple as that.

I like the idea of 2 x skills for depositors over 100$/month, or/and free entery to pecial event, some poker sites give as much as you depo... there are thousands of oportunities.

But as it is now MA strugles to stay floating and i hope they dont give away anything for free untill they bought a saftywest...

they are working on getting the next generation depositors hooked but i dont think its working very well... maybe some advertising would be good now, before the CE2 are to old and we are back on square 1 again without getting anything out from the damn engine.

baaah

Gl
 
Joat said:
There should be a "bonussystem" for depositing.
It should not give extra inside the game, like better loot and so on, since
a depo can go to another player, by a trade. No increase to the actuall
lootsystem there.
It should be based on a 0.00tt item that can be repaired.
It shouldn't be a "must-have" to be able to play the game.
But it should be a very attractive item.
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There is allready one, free Gold Card for 5k ped deposited.
 
JoseMTacoral said:
Loyalty programs work very well for a long time both in the provision of services and product sales, I see no reason to not work for the clients / players Mindark. I also believe that the system of gifts for special occasions is frankly inadequate and the objets that are delivered in such occasions havo no value as elements of player retention.

Planet Partners Mindark and should implement a recognition system based on the players:

  • deposits made
  • time in the game
  • frequency of connections
  • achievements (globals, HoF and ATH)

Receive awards for achieving certain objectives should be of different types:

  • UL objects that are not marketable
  • Access to areas, places or premium services
  • Titles that can be displayed and which are independent of the level of skills (which may vary to be sold or purchased).
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I basicly agree 100%, good post.
 
Otus said:
There is allready one, free Gold Card for 5k ped deposited.
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Mindark is giving those items away for free so they can ease the pressure on support, its not realy a reward.
 
Maybe there should be two loot pools as well one for non-depositor and one for the depositors. Let MA decide how it would work but at lest that way they would not get depositors PED from there pool. I think they would feel much better about there loot if it was not going to known non-depositors..IMO
 
Rusty Redrock said:
Maybe there should be two loot pools as well one for non-depositor and one for the depositors. Let MA decide how it would work but at lest that way they would not get depositors PED from there pool. I think they would feel much better about there loot if it was not going to known non-depositors..IMO
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I like the thought behind the idee but i can asure you its never going to work out.
 
all I want to be changed are the obvious lucky/unlucky numbers you generate when being created, thats what I believe so flame away :p

Start to treat people different because of their depositing habits and I guess the game will be even more of a rich mans playground and less new players aka depositors would join... (as it would still be lucky/unlucky numbers generated on that system...)

EDIT: or give away rl stuff, like the mob figures they had a few times on conventions or something
 
More events such as the Longtooth/Eomon migration, or the SGA event, that happen annually would be nice. Especially ones that are more accessible to the populace.

In game holidays would be cool too. They dont have to coincide with RL holidays at all, purely made up ones. I'm sure in the future people still celebrate holidays marking special occasions.
 
In all honesty, there is quite a few freeloaders in this game every new player thinks they can make it rich with out depositing. So at this point I'm against any more free incenctives in the form of gifts. As stated they already give us 3 gifts a year. Also they give ya free gold card reader if you depo at least 500.

What we need is a better training system for new players to teach them how to play so less leave. Gateway is a good step but needs some advancing.

Also this is not a casino or poker room according to FPC. So giving points and benifits like one maybe an admission of guilt. ;)
 
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