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what about give something to regular depositors who never hit withdraw
 
CMS said:
In all honesty, there is quite a few freeloaders in this game every new player thinks they can make it rich with out depositing. So at this point I'm against any more free incenctives in the form of gifts. As stated they already give us 3 gifts a year. Also they give ya free gold card reader if you depo at least 500.

What we need is a better training system for new players to teach them how to play so less leave. Gateway is a good step but needs some advancing.

Also this is not a casino or poker room according to FPC. So giving points and benifits like one maybe an admission of guilt. ;)
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But the idee behind a reward system is basicly to lower the amount of freeloaders, giving them a reason to deposit.
 
Edling said:
This is also something to considerate.
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consider this is rl money we invest and sometimes rl circumstances need this money back to the real world, why would you get punished by making your rl a priority?

(just pointing it out, read my first post for my thoughts about the thread in general)
 
jenny ferr said:
consider this is rl money we invest and sometimes rl circumstances need this money back to the real world, why would you get punished by making your rl a priority?
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we speak about bonus for something done in general

its just another bonus option

ofcorse RL items
in game we got all our PEDs as bonus to play whit
 
I think I have to quite this shit game.. I dont want to play online poker...
 
Incentives for encouraging play and deposits is great idea.

MA made some steps in that direction. Depositors of over X ped get a free goldcard and more items on Xmas, Helloween and similar such occasions(those who deposited 10usd at least, get 1 item, those who deposited over 1k get 3 items), but would be real nice to see something more substantial.
 
Let's not mix words, here:

Addict's Incentive Program
 
JingyiDai said:
I think I have to quite this shit game.. I dont want to play online poker...
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:nutkick: Bye bye...hope you quit EF as well so that we who actually enjoy the game dont have to listen to the whining.
Seems that a person who is so keen on making sure everybody knows he is quitting is after the attention more than anything. :wave:
 
jenny ferr said:
consider this is rl money we invest and sometimes rl circumstances need this money back to the real world, why would you get punished by making your rl a priority?

(just pointing it out, read my first post for my thoughts about the thread in general)
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Well i didnt say it shoud be implented its just something to consider.
 
Edling said:
It was 5 years ago since i had the opertunity to get one of those gifts so i dont know how it is nowadays but if your right, its a step in the right direction.
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Ehm, dont get me wrong, but why posting this thread if you have been inactive for 5 years?
 
Edling said:
Well i didnt say it shoud be implented its just something to consider.
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T79x explained his original post to me, guess it was a misunderstanding only from my side. keep peds in game and bonuses if ever outside
 
Best way to get more to deposit is to have some new areas only available to depositors with slightly better functionality like larger service centers, a few cool race tracks or maybe a nice cliffside for that all elusive basejump :D or (and i know this might be a bit contreversial) maybe a system where ammo, bombs etc. are just a fraction cheaper for depositors so that it is slightly cheaper to hunt, mine etc. if you depo.
 
Trifle said:
Ehm, dont get me wrong, but why posting this thread if you have been inactive for 5 years?
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I played 5 years ago, i think it lasted almost a year before i had to quite due to real life issues.

Now im back again and have ben playing for a while.
 
It seems we already have a system to reward those who generate revenue for MA. It's the skill system.

The thing I don't like about these "give depositors moar" ideas that come up frequently is that it gets into a lot of gray area with people who deposit infrequently. I haven't deposited since January, but in my time here I have put in $1400. I don't think I am a leech or freeloader, but how would a reward system based on depositing work for a player like me? Would I loose access to the "special area" or discount bonuses if I don't deposit regularly?

And these ideas also often ignore the fact that you can withdraw too. If special gifts are given for depositing a large sum, why not just deposit, claim the gift and then withdraw?

The flexibility of the payment system in EU is one of it's biggest attractions. Ideas like this seem to detract from that imo.

What MA needs to do to increase their revenue is to reward activity not depositing, and they already do that by skills. So I don't really see the need for anything additional.

If you don't feel like you are getting a good bang for your buck then I don't think this is the way to fix that.

:twocents:
 
Snuggins said:
It seems we already have a system to reward those who generate revenue for MA. It's the skill system.

The thing I don't like about these "give depositors moar" ideas that come up frequently is that it gets into a lot of gray area with people who deposit infrequently. I haven't deposited since January, but in my time here I have put in $1400. I don't think I am a leech or freeloader, but how would a reward system based on depositing work for a player like me? Would I loose access to the "special area" or discount bonuses if I don't deposit regularly?

And these ideas also often ignore the fact that you can withdraw too. If special gifts are given for depositing a large sum, why not just deposit, claim the gift and then withdraw?

The flexibility of the payment system in EU is one of it's biggest attractions. Ideas like this seem to detract from that imo.

What MA needs to do to increase their revenue is to reward activity not depositing, and they already do that by skills. So I don't really see the need for anything additional.

If you don't feel like you are getting a good bang for your buck then I don't think this is the way to fix that.

:twocents:
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You are right about the skill system, however i see that as progress in the game and not a reward.

You are obvisly not a freeloader, $1400 can buy you a life-time subscription from several other mmorpgs out there.

If a deposit reward system was implented they woud need to backtrack a for a certain amount of time in order to be fair for everyone.
Deposit rewards just as online poker (here we go again) can be cash out restriced for a certain amount of time.
Lets say untill you have reached a specific skill level and then you get your reward unlocked.

Actualy thats exactly how bonuses in online poker works :D
 
Otus said:
There is allready one, free Gold Card for 5k ped deposited.
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Who needs 62 of them after some year? Ah, yeah, it were a one-timer. ;)
Imo, it's very simple, they need to get more players and keep those that
depo, new or old. Excisting system doesn't work to keep a lot of depositers,
that's quite obvious.
 
I think at the end of every fiscal year, those that have deposited more than 1k usd should get a free creature figurine sent to them in the mail (different one each year)
 
roughrider said:
Best way to get more to deposit is to have some new areas only available to depositors with slightly better functionality like larger service centers, a few cool race tracks or maybe a nice cliffside for that all elusive basejump :D or (and i know this might be a bit contreversial) maybe a system where ammo, bombs etc. are just a fraction cheaper for depositors so that it is slightly cheaper to hunt, mine etc. if you depo.
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None of you seem to understand this is why EU is unique. If you want this "membership" type thing go play ruinscape.
 
MR. Fresh said:
None of you seem to understand this is why EU is unique. If you want this "membership" type thing go play ruinscape.
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Unique as in not rewarding loyal customers? and you think this is a good thing ?

If i wanted to play runescape i woud have done it.

This is the same old crap sentence ive used to hear in the wow forums
"If you dont like game X go play game Y"
 
Edling said:
However Poker rooms reward loyal customers with points, rakeback, better customer support and entry to specific tournaments.
You get what you pay for, it have always ben like this.

What do you guys think?
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I'd be generally opposed to anything that would either affect the loot pool or create a class system among gamers.... In other words, no giving out anything with tt value, uber type gear, or special access...

As much as I wish there were more depositors, I think the dream of all depositors is to be able to have a full gaming experience as a non depositor. we shouldn't make that impossible.

this being said... there should be way more stuff like the christmas gifts... and stuff that's more than merely decorative... non depositors could buy the things off of auction if they wanted to use them... small gifts for even a 10$ deposit could keep people motivated to keep expanding the IG economy.
 
lilac said:
I'd be generally opposed to anything that would either affect the loot pool or create a class system among gamers.... In other words, no giving out anything with tt value, uber type gear, or special access...

As much as I wish there were more depositors, I think the dream of all depositors is to be able to have a full gaming experience as a non depositor. we shouldn't make that impossible.

this being said... there should be way more stuff like the christmas gifts... and stuff that's more than merely decorative... non depositors could buy the things off of auction if they wanted to use them... small gifts for even a 10$ deposit could keep people motivated to keep expanding the IG economy.
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Best post that is against me suggestion so far.

Still without depositors there isnt going to be any non-depositers so the need is still there.
 
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Edling said:
Hello

Some of you might hate me for posting this suggestion but here it goes:

Eu has an economy wich is very similiar to the online poker rooms
You deposit money and get it in your account, whenever you play you a percentage is generated as revenue to the company.

The more you play the more you pay.

However Poker rooms reward loyal customers with points, rakeback, better customer support and entry to specific tournaments.
You get what you pay for, it have always ben like this.

Some of us pay alot more to play the game then others and they get nothing in return for doing so. You are even charged with a fee for depositing money into the game.

If more RCE morpgs enter the market i bet we will see a change in this just like the poker rooms did in the past.

What do you guys think?
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EU already has this reward system in place. The high rollers here live above the glass ceiling and the rules and have many advantages over the normal players.

I dont think they need more then they already have.
 
Trina Xenophage said:
EU already has this reward system in place. The high rollers here live above the glass ceiling and the rules and have many advantages over the normal players.

I dont think they need more then they already have.
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Whatever they deserve or not shoud not let the rest of us depositors suffer.
 
Trina Xenophage said:
EU already has this reward system in place. The high rollers here live above the glass ceiling and the rules and have many advantages over the normal players.

I dont think they need more then they already have.
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I agree...

I'd be pissed if they rewarded the "high roller" type any more than the run of the mill 20$ a month depositor...

that being said... the 20$ a month people vs the non depositing people could make the difference between good vs. bad loot cycles, and the game growing vs not growing....

not to mention... people who actually deposit vs never depositing may get that first thrill of swirlies to get them hooked.

a small push could go a long way....
 
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If this tells you anything i am a non depositor and I support the opening posters idea.
 
kosmos said:
If this tells you anything i am a non depositor and I support the opening posters idea.
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how would you feel about having certain areas inaccessible as a non depositor....

I'm a depositor and i'd be pissed if something wasn't availible cause i skipped a month...
 
Firstly compairing this game to poker is wrong, I received a ticket response the other day from MA and they assured me that this game is "not at all gambling" and that if I use the equipment to match my skills it would really help me. So everything must be predetermined and not "chance based".

Secondly, I would probably class those major hofs / ath's as a kind of loyalty reward.

Reffering to the above about MA's response to my ticket, I did actually say to them "How come I dont get the FREE drinks on the house" ( in reference to gambling in a casino) which is done to keep the punter paying :D
 
lilac said:
how would you feel about having certain areas inaccessible as a non depositor....

I'm a depositor and i'd be pissed if something wasn't availible cause i skipped a month...
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depends. i would be happy to see others feel they get more value out of their ped. thats all i am looking for. unhappy depositors = bad entropia
 
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