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Very nice guide LeelooM. Most important is that you manage to inspire people to become miners.
(Epic post coming up but your thread inspired me and deserves the credit)
One advice I would like to add is buy crap loads of blueprints, no matter how useless they seem to be. Visit the crafting machine after each run, and specially after you have gathered more and more enmatters and ores in your storage. If you are lucky you will be able to craft something from what you gathered that pays much better than selling the mineral finds for a low markup. And some crafted components sells very well in low quantities.
I can't remember his name back in the early PE days but he ran mining classes ingame. For a small fee we gathered at a spot and he ran the basics. We listened big eyed and impressed at this mining gurus advice and tips. I get all when I remember my first mining school. And this is probably a reason why I fell in love with mining from day 1. Maybe take that up again LeeLooM?
I left PE/EU and came back in 2013 and decided to play more disciplined. And ofc I went back to mining.
I have never used LBML, only spreadsheets. For anyone doing it "manually" like me this is how I did it
Locos Manual Mining Method (LMMM)
Thats it! If you like me want to find out for yourself, then this is one way of doing it.
And the profit hungry reader might of course ask himself by now:
I am sad to disappoint you. After 18425 logged drops over a three year period I made 908 ped
That is why YOU have to do what LeelooM teaches you in this excellent thread. Because I sure didnt .
But anyway. Making peds isnt all. These years of my mining explorations in EU has been the biggest online adventure of all time for me and mega fun and stimulating. Seeing all great planets, meeting all the wierd mobs, meeting all the wonderful people. So go miners go where no man has gone before. There is a sweet spot for everyone.
(Epic post coming up but your thread inspired me and deserves the credit)
One advice I would like to add is buy crap loads of blueprints, no matter how useless they seem to be. Visit the crafting machine after each run, and specially after you have gathered more and more enmatters and ores in your storage. If you are lucky you will be able to craft something from what you gathered that pays much better than selling the mineral finds for a low markup. And some crafted components sells very well in low quantities.
I can't remember his name back in the early PE days but he ran mining classes ingame. For a small fee we gathered at a spot and he ran the basics. We listened big eyed and impressed at this mining gurus advice and tips. I get all when I remember my first mining school. And this is probably a reason why I fell in love with mining from day 1. Maybe take that up again LeeLooM?
I left PE/EU and came back in 2013 and decided to play more disciplined. And ofc I went back to mining.
I have never used LBML, only spreadsheets. For anyone doing it "manually" like me this is how I did it
Locos Manual Mining Method (LMMM)
- Deposit so you have at least 1000 ped (if you can)
- Chose a planet to chart (ofc I would start with Caly)
- Make a planet charting spreadsheet showing latitude and longitude. Run along a latitude and longitude with 200 m apart of droppings. Print it out. Save all finds and write down any comments regarding the location of the finds. Can be info about mobs, terrain or whatever that makes it hard or easy to mine in that area. Mine for all mineral finds, enmatter, ores and possibly treasures on Arkadia.
Sell of when you got ok stacks and repeat this until you are out of peds. - Depo some more
- Analyze your planet charting spreadsheet and select areas where you got finds and areas which is suitable for mining. (I would advice you to avoid areas with to much mobs and mountains)
- Make a grid spreadsheet and print it out where you add finds.
In the example you can add the grid resolution to whatever you want (cell E4).
In cells F6 and A12 you add the X- and Y-coords at the center of the location you want to investigate further. The rest of the cells in column A and row 6 you add calculations to add or subtract the grid resolution. - Tweak the grid after one run. You can tweak the resolution and the coordinates to better cover the finds in that area.
- Save the center location of your tweaked grid spreadsheet as an area to mine in.
- Repeat this so you have 5-10 areas. (I had 10 on each planet.)
- After this you can go as nuts as you want in Excel. The spreadsheets I added after finding areas was:
- Mining run stock sheet: Here you add all your finds during a run + find types and their markups.
- Mining run stock sheet: Here you add all your finds during a run + find types and their markups.
- A result spreadsheet where you for each row adds the results of the runs with every cost and income added.
- Diagrams plotting the tt and markup results after each run.
- A universe info spreadsheet: Here I added all the resource types in the universe and added in which locations there where plentyful finds of a particular resource.
- Mining depth spreadsheet: Just make a copy of LBML's depth chart. Very conventient to have in Excel to.
- Spawnchanges spreadsheet: Yea, as I painfully experienced the planet partners and MA sometimes shuffles and change the spawns. I therefore added this to see the areas resource history.
An example from one of my areas and it's spawn change history. It more and more developed into some sort of Captain's Log
(There is a little gold stone in here for the one bothering to read it)
No change but #1 and #2 had same of most, iron, igni, lyta. #3 Nice run on my revisit after 1,5 years away from NI. New nice finds was Maganite, Terrudite, Typonolic and Magerian. The find of Terrudite could be because of the depth enhancers on my F 105. Got enhancers to IV and a depth of 677 m. #4 By far my best run ever with two hofs. 432 ped plentiful binary fluid and a 267 ped significant iron hof. The peculiar thing was that this run didnt contain any lyst or oil at all. Also no copper and maganite as in run #3. #5 Nothing to write home about … #6 Maybe the system is taking back stuff. My average MU before markup is now 95% which is good. Let's see if it has to climb down to 90% before I break even again. #7 Still down. 74% back before MU. No oil this time. #8 Had alic, megan, maganite and oil this time compared to #7. #9 Almost identical results as in #8. No alic this time as in #8 but lyst. #10 OMG! What a run!!!! A Plentiful Iron HOF (235 ped) and I found some Tridenite (1400% MU). Thank you Next island so much )))) #11 A peculiar loss run. Only 8 res types this run. #12 Nice run again with a great hit rate. A significant melchi and the rets of the run had like 6-7 hits each 10 drops. 110% tt back Time to head back to Caly after 10 runs in same spot. #13 After a return trip to Caly to tier my OF-105 to lvl 5 and my RE-104 to lvl 2 I went back. Merry Mayhem still keeps people busy. Thought it would be better but just 75% tt back. No big hits. #14 Christmas eve morning was nice. 70 drops and got a 153 pedder Iron. After 100 drops I gladly see 130% tt back. December has been really nice on NI with 180% tt back after 12 runs. #15 Took a chance and deposited. Bought 10 lvl 5 amps. First run not very good. 78% tt back. Not much MU resources. Just some igni but no maganite or typo. #16 Another crap run. Found tons of Alic compared to #15. But not enough mu resources to bring up the losses. Only 80% return after mu. But I have three more runs with lvl 5 amps. Usually something good hit within 5 runs. #17 Third lvl 5 run and down to 77% tt back this run. Also the drop rate for igni is way down compared to earlier. Got only 10 ped of it. #18 4th lvl 5 run. Same result tt wise. #19 Almost broke even after mu thx to a 134 ped lyta HOF. But the conclusion of using lvl 5 amps is shitty. In my naivity I thought that 5 runs totalling 500 drops would even out things a bit better. Not minus 670 ped tt. So, low level mining for me (planet side at least) #20 Did a lvl 2 run instead with no depth enhancers. Got a 132 ped Iron global. 6,77% + tt this run. Got no deeper resources like binary energy and terrudite. Both are hard to sell so that doesnt matter much. #21 A little tt loss but some tt+mu profit. Got two minis. Same this run. No deeper resources found. Also without depth enhancers. #22 First run 2016. With MU I almost broke even . Same results with depths. Only found a little Terrudite but no binary and maganite. No depth enhancers on the F-105. Depth seems to matter. Very interesting . I have started doing various correlations to see if I can see at the start of a mining run if the run will be good or bad. #23 Back after a sale trip to Caly. Only 67% tt back. Worst run out of 21 runs in same area. Still 285 ped + after MU in these 21 runs. #24 67,68% tt back. No minis. Quite a lot more Igni but it didnt manage to save the run. Just three runs but as it looks now by the correlations I can predict the tt% outcome from the first 10-20 runs. #25 Another little loss run but not as much. Put the depth anhancers back and started finding maganite, binary and terrudite. #25 Shit! 80% tt return since start of december now. #27 Plentiful garc hof. #28 Worst run in 26 runs. 59 % tt return. #31 Just 1,40 ped igni this run. Feels like they have balanced and lowered the drop rate. 86% tt return. I feel almost happy about it. Merry Mayhem is over and MA took down the servers today. Probablly to remove some MM stuff. Will be interesting to see if there are any changes in returns or drops over here on Next Island
Thats it! If you like me want to find out for yourself, then this is one way of doing it.
And the profit hungry reader might of course ask himself by now:
OMFG! You gotta be rich as a troll by now Loco?
I am sad to disappoint you. After 18425 logged drops over a three year period I made 908 ped
That is why YOU have to do what LeelooM teaches you in this excellent thread. Because I sure didnt .
But anyway. Making peds isnt all. These years of my mining explorations in EU has been the biggest online adventure of all time for me and mega fun and stimulating. Seeing all great planets, meeting all the wierd mobs, meeting all the wonderful people. So go miners go where no man has gone before. There is a sweet spot for everyone.