girts ped card -> soko's ped card?
Will next month be soko's ped card -> girts ped card??
No no don't be silly, let's just settle this, next month will be soko's ped card -> eli's ped card <- girts ped card
girts ped card -> soko's ped card?
Will next month be soko's ped card -> girts ped card??
I just used the Weapon Compare V2 on entropedia. I put 60% crit size buff on a weapon, and to get an equivalent eco I added .6% crit rate in another window on the same weapon.
Anyway, the issue was the stacking, not so much the armor itself. But you could also stack rings/sights/scopes/enhancers/pills so to me this was just another item.
You put too much emphasis on EST armor, it was just another buff that increased crit damage ("free damage"). It didn't have much more affect than adding an imp ares. Mod Viceroy armor has more effect but oddly is not mentioned even though it can also be used without taking decay...
Agree 100 % with op. I had the Best gear in game with more than 3,7-3,8 dpp. After 2.0... now i don't trust in the game stats shown anymore and thus sold out and play other games instead. Too bad. Loved this game. May return but really cant see myself trusting in Big investments anytime soon.
Sbi
When I ran my study, I saw that the tt values in return was proportional to cost, so if you lowered the cost by fb or inc crit dmg, the absolute tt return was lower per mob as well.
But the % should be the same is my assumption....
assumed the same and thought the extra crit% would at least not hurt
one of my wild(er) theories over the last years has been that my publicly documented successful 2 years led to a nerf of some sorts that was implemented outside of the dpp system (perfectly plausible as this implementation showed) around April 2016, which resulted in my tt return being lowered - kindof supported by my return not changing for the time going without mk2 scope and sight
not saying this is a personal implementation, just something more general that fits my usage criteria
with that cap not removed, current 92% would be a result of the 2 nerfs applied at the same time - which would really suck for me
if this is a pay to win game....
if you have top tier gear.. shouldn't you have a bit of edge??
mob should pay XX.XX ped.... regardless of setup. if you can reduce costs.. shouldn't the mob pay proportionally more than for someone doing 3.1 dpp vs someone doing 2.9 dpp?
And as it is now ... i think that's reversed.. which i find odd.
IF British Petroleum can produce at $27/Barrel of Oil... and a start up in North Dakota needs $34/Barrel to break even.. who is going to make more when cost of oil is $39/barrel ,.... $30/Barrel?
If you have invested time, energy, dollars... shouldn't you be (potentially) rewarded for efficiency? The way it seems now, the more efficient you are, the less you are rewarded with.
This was previously how it worked, but with gear investments, average cost to kill could be reduced below cost to kill, creating a consistent profit. But to get there you have to invest. But this created many pitchforks. Ultimately the player base spoke out and MA responded.
mob should pay XX.XX ped.... regardless of setup. if you can reduce costs.. shouldn't the mob pay proportionally more than for someone doing 3.1 dpp vs someone doing 2.9 dpp?
.
This was previously how it worked, but with gear investments, average cost to kill could be reduced below cost to kill, creating a consistent profit.
so now you have free to play winning, and heavy depo' players on the sidelines...
how does this work?
**edit --> i understand free to play is exaggeration....
There is no penalty to loot return percentage from critical hits, critical hits are treated just the same as normal hits in terms of loot. The changes made with 2.0 were not intended to deal with critical hit or critical damage buffs specifically but to modernize the loot system to make it more flexible for future development in several areas.
As mentioned in the Dev notes #11 06-08-2017
"A new Economy rating parameter will be introduced, on a scale of 1-100, that indicates the efficiency of a tool and which influences loot calculations. This change from the once dominant damage/pec model will provide the design team with more freedom to release exciting and interesting items with a wider range of damage output and special effects. For example, our team will have the ability to create powerful new items that provide access to challenging and exciting content without dramatically increasing cost to play. Existing items will be assigned Economy values that reflect their relative efficiency to one another and to the entire array of items in the universe."
There is no penalty to loot return percentage from critical hits, critical hits are treated just the same as normal hits in terms of loot. The changes made with 2.0 were not intended to deal with critical hit or critical damage buffs specifically but to modernize the loot system to make it more flexible for future development in several areas.
As mentioned in the Dev notes #11 06-08-2017
"A new Economy rating parameter will be introduced, on a scale of 1-100, that indicates the efficiency of a tool and which influences loot calculations. This change from the once dominant damage/pec model will provide the design team with more freedom to release exciting and interesting items with a wider range of damage output and special effects. For example, our team will have the ability to create powerful new items that provide access to challenging and exciting content without dramatically increasing cost to play. Existing items will be assigned Economy values that reflect their relative efficiency to one another and to the entire array of items in the universe."
Well they obviously fucked up somewhere in the coding then didn't they, wouldn't be the first time and certainly will not be the last time.
Charlie, can you clarify this point?
Is the current loot calculation based predominantly on cost spent per mob or not?
If the buffs decrease cost spent, does this also reduce amount of tt received?
This doesn't mean of course, that the TT return % will suffer.
Some clarification is really needed here...
"There is no penalty to loot return percentage from critical hits, critical hits are treated just the same as normal hits in terms of loot."
"There is no penalty to loot return percentage from critical hits, critical hits are treated just the same as normal hits in terms of loot."
Charlie, can you clarify this point?
Is the current loot calculation based predominantly on cost spent per mob or not?
If the buffs decrease cost spent, does this also reduce amount of tt received?
This doesn't mean of course, that the TT return % will suffer.
Some clarification is really needed here...
It is not based on average cost to kill, it is based on actual cost to kill.TECHNICALLY, calculating loot based on average cost to kill isn't a penalty.
Is the current loot calculation based predominantly on cost spent per mob or not?
Yes.
If the buffs decrease cost spent, does this also reduce amount of tt received?
This doesn't mean of course, that the TT return % will suffer.
Yes and yes, it has no effect on return %. Efficiency of the weapon however does affect return %.
It is not based on average cost to kill, it is based on actual cost to kill.
Is the current loot calculation based predominantly on cost spent per mob or not?
Yes.
If the buffs decrease cost spent, does this also reduce amount of tt received?
This doesn't mean of course, that the TT return % will suffer.
Yes and yes, it has no effect on return %. Efficiency of the weapon however does affect return %.
It is not based on average cost to kill, it is based on actual cost to kill.