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FEN Event Phase Two

LMTR14 said:
when will fen phase 3 start already...

fen: once again good idea, terrible execution. I maybe got 150-200 gold tokens total in the entire shebang, and I never cycled more ped than in that very period of time! that's a fucking joke and nothing else!

phase 2 drops from monsters: 3 gold shirts. that is all. :laugh:

STOP MAKING EVENTS THAT ONLY HIGH ROLLERS CAN TAKE PART IN FFS:mad:
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You do realize that Wezten has been grinding like, epic amounts at an extremely high level and has looted nothing?

Yet at the same time, a few 1-2 week old accounts looted Argo claws.

Your argument is complete nonsense.
 
Captain Jack said:
You don't have to be a high roller to hunt Argonauts - and there are some significant FEN items available there.
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on stage 3 started for people selected by MA to loot off-list objects

for my part I had nothing, similar to SGA and Ten this is only the continuity
I love especially those who have loot of the first hours as if the turnover had a real impact :rolleyes:


my personal hunt

Rarkash 76 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:53:28
Mesis 129 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:36:27
Rarkash 176 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:27:57
Rarkash 90 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:19:38
Feffox Guardian 71 PED Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:15:38
Araneatrox Young Elite 50 PED Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:09:33
Araneatrox Young Elite 128 PED Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:04:32
Araneatrox Young Elite 98 PED Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:47:12
Araneatrox Young Elite 60 PED Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:32:34
Mature Rhino Beetle 54 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:05:28
Leumed 98 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 07:53:10
Ludark 76 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 00:43:24
Ludark 80 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 00:40:48
Ludark 90 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 00:37:52
Agrash 53 PED Sat, 15 Dec 2018 22:46:53
Mesis 54 PED Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:25:51
Mesis 57 PED Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:17:34
Mesis 61 PED Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:10:42
Daspletor Young 60 PED Sat, 15 Dec 2018 15:29:03
Daspletor Young 91 PED Sat, 15 Dec 2018 15:24:51
Daspletor Young 93 PED Sat, 15 Dec 2018 15:12:02
Daspletor Young 58 PED Sat, 15 Dec 2018 14:56:32
Mesis 62 PED Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:57:55
Mesis 426 PED Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:36:05
Mesis 122 PED Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:31:58
Ludark 75 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 21:44:18
Leumed 89 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 21:24:15
Mesis 56 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:12:57
Mesis 60 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:10:48
Leumed 98 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:43:22
Leumed 110 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:30:29
Ludark 80 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:24:53
Ludark 76 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:22:34
Rarkash 52 PED Mon, 17 Dec 2018 21:39:02
Mesis 268 PED Mon, 17 Dec 2018 21:22:51
Rarkash 54 PED Mon, 17 Dec 2018 21:10:46
Mesis 74 PED Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:48:42
Rarkash 204 PED Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:38:52
Rarkash 52 PED Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:19:57
Rarkash 335 PED Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:03:06
Mesis 117 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 22:19:46
Mesis 50 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 22:13:17
Mature Rhino Beetle 51 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:33:18
Mature Rhino Beetle 63 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:13:20
Mature Rhino Beetle 50 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:00:45
Mature Rhino Beetle 94 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 19:51:54
Mature Rhino Beetle 50 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:44:39
Mature Rhino Beetle 76 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:41:16
Alpha Tide Claw 95 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:09:54
Rarkash 76 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:43:46
Proteron Old 59 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 19:23:33
Mulmun Looter Elite 52 PED Wed, 19 Dec 2018 22:13:49
Proteron Old 57 PED Wed, 19 Dec 2018 22:07:45
Proteron Mature 178 PED Wed, 19 Dec 2018 22:03:49
Rarkash 75 PED Wed, 19 Dec 2018 21:07:58
Mesis 109 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:29:56
Mesis 73 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:09:35
Mesis 50 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:07:13
Mesis 105 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:54:24
Mesis 53 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:52:54
Rarkash 51 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:43:04
Rarkash 50 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:33:36
Mesis 135 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:31:25
Rarkash 83 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:26:45
Mesis 74 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:18:09
Leumed 57 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 19:02:28
Ludark 87 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:39:31
Ludark 87 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:19:17
Leumed 53 PED Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:11:02
Mutated Otorugi Stalker 53 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:21:05
Mutated Beladoth stalker 82 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:18:59
Mutated Otorugi Stalker 105 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:08:14
Mutated Beladoth stalker 114 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:04:44
Scoria Prowler 56 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 11:07:30
Scoria Old Alpha 61 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:27:06
Mesis 56 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 23:37:02
Rarkash 67 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 11:56:07
Aurli Ravager 118 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 02:04:21
Hatchling, Brood of All 188 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 00:44:52
Young Rhino Beetle 207 PED Sat, 22 Dec 2018 19:54:50
Mature Rhino Beetle 57 PED Sat, 22 Dec 2018 15:50:46
Young Rhino Beetle 59 PED Sat, 22 Dec 2018 15:10:55
Young Rhino Beetle 208 PED Sat, 22 Dec 2018 14:57:49
Young Rhino Beetle 54 PED Sat, 22 Dec 2018 14:52:55
Feffox Mature 60 PED Sat, 22 Dec 2018 12:55:02
Feffox Mature 52 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 23:12:20
Feffox Mature 55 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 22:36:02
Mesis 563 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 21:50:40
Mesis 118 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:46:50
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 67 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 11:06:56
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 125 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 10:43:11
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 63 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 10:40:43
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 59 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 10:27:45
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 146 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 10:17:50
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 56 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 10:05:38
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 59 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 09:55:57
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 72 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 09:54:02
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 56 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 09:43:23
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 3) 58 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 09:15:01
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 3) 115 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 09:11:07
Merry Annihilation Daikiba 07 53 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 00:25:29
Merry Annihilation Daikiba 07 56 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 22:04:39
Merry Annihilation Daikiba 07 127 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:57:47
Merry Annihilation Hispidus 07 80 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 15:36:14
Mutated Beladoth Old Alpha 188 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 13:45:45
Mutated Beladoth Prowler 57 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 13:28:53
Mutated Beladoth Prowler 52 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:58:41
Mutated Otorugi Stalker 50 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:44:42
Mutated Beladoth Prowler 65 PED Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:25:27
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 3) 59 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 07:07:03
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 59 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 23:31:43
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 77 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 23:24:00
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 68 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 23:02:35
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 116 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 22:48:57
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 282 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 21:02:09
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 87 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:59:36
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 55 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:50:05
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 65 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:42:41
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 130 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:38:55
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 80 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:29:53
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 56 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:26:04
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 94 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:26:32
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 144 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:22:26
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 80 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:13:57
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 113 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:12:00
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 81 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:04:22
Merry Annihilation Daikiba 07 128 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 13:38:03
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 270 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 11:28:12
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 663 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 11:13:06
Epic Jolly Lurker 573 PED Fri, 28 Dec 2018 20:47:49
Epic Jolly Lurker 18 PED Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:01:14
Mature Rhino Beetle 96 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 23:00:21
Mature Rhino Beetle 52 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 22:49:05
Mature Rhino Beetle 126 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 22:23:28
Mature Rhino Beetle 59 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 22:19:39
Mature Rhino Beetle 51 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 22:08:56
Mature Rhino Beetle 53 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:51:26
Mature Rhino Beetle 649 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:17:19
Mature Rhino Beetle 51 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 19:33:00
Mature Rhino Beetle 93 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:14:40
Mature Rhino Beetle 69 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:08:46
Mature Rhino Beetle 430 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:07:07
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 71 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:12:32
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 63 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:06:13
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 65 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:04:23
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 237 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:54:56
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 73 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:30:31
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 61 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:04:40
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 89 PED Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:36:17
Puny Rhino Beetle 57 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 22:29:32
Feffox Young 78 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:18:07
Feffox Young 159 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:14:57
Feffox Old 155 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:00:38
Feffox Old 77 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:41:10
Feffox Young 205 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:31:57
Feffox Mature 58 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:13:45
Feffox Young 74 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 12:11:27
Feffox Young 68 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:44:33
Feffox Old 75 PED Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:42:07
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 2) 96 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:19:05
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 2) 175 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:09:55
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 2) 159 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 16:57:38
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 2) 212 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 16:56:03
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 2) 51 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 16:51:56
Mature Mang Chang 138 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 13:00:46
Heavy Jolly Lurker 658 PED Fri, 28 Dec 2018 22:05:05
Epic Jolly Lurker 20 PED Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:41:35
Epic Jolly Lurker 36 PED Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:38:41
Heavy Jolly Lurker 13 PED Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:35:47

and in team :dunce:

Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 104 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 19:27:01
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 200 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 19:21:41
Yulebot (FFA 3) 112 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 22:45:29
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 51 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 22:29:48
Yulebot (FFA 3) 256 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 21:48:57
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 51 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 21:05:58
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 111 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 21:04:18
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 56 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 20:56:08
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 56 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 20:49:46
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 104 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 20:38:55
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 55 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 20:36:34
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 58 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 20:27:27
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 85 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 20:12:36
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 54 PED Thu, 20 Dec 2018 20:07:21
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 147 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 23:31:13
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 127 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 23:16:01
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 4) 126 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 23:04:17
Yulebot (FFA 3) 63 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:44:36
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 50 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:27:40
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 94 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:06:57
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 59 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:03:40
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 210 PED Sat, 29 Dec 2018 21:55:51
Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 5) 170 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 22:33:25
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 4) 133 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 22:13:46
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 4) 61 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 22:05:42
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 4) 62 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 21:58:51
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 4) 68 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 21:53:31
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 4) 96 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 21:43:42
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 4) 67 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 21:41:10
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 4) 61 PED Tue, 25 Dec 2018 21:22:22
Yulebot (FFA 3) 106 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 21:15:16
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 53 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 20:42:57
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 95 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 20:41:23
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 105 PED Fri, 21 Dec 2018 19:51:16
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 108 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 23:10:53
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 222 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 23:03:40
Yulebot (FFA 3) 191 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 23:00:47
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 386 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 22:41:09
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 224 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 22:28:24
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 407 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 22:20:26
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 51 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:51:20
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 100 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:46:53
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 219 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:37:55
Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 3) 103 PED Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:28:32
 
Oleg said:
Do you think that all of those new players, combined, cycling 100 or 500 PED per day on small argos, have been hunting more, combined, than all the high level players, combined, who are doing 5-10k PED per day on big argos (or were, before the damage change this week)?
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Hey. Even though it feels a bit like a rhetorical question I am still going to answer: I was refering to the number of loot events and not to the total amount cycled on certain maturities. And the total number of loot events on those small-medium Argo during FEN was likely higher than on all named Argo combined. Thus, there also was a higher propability of looting a claw from those maturities. That was the point i was trying to make..


Personally, I think there should of been a lot more strong and great claws looting from named Argo.
 
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(from Junkman Online :yay:)
 
Montbertus said:
Hey. Even though it feels a bit like a rhetorical question I am still going to answer: I was refering to the number of loot events and not to the total amount cycled on certain maturities. And the total number of loot events on those small-medium Argo during FEN was likely higher than on all named Argo combined. Thus, there also was a higher propability of looting a claw from those maturities. That was the point i was trying to make..


Personally, I think there should of been a lot more strong and great claws looting from named Argo.
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You're probably right about the numbers (I don't know how much regular argo hunting has increased during the event, as I haven't been at those spawns), but remember that the elites/named can drop Weak claws too.
 
well indeed it is working perfectly :)

suppor-Ulf said:
First off, we don't comment on other players in specific via support cases however it is as always important that you don't compare yourself to other avatars if you do not know their variables, for example these players could have a very high cycling rate with very high activity, as such they of course would have a higher chance to get these items if their overall hunting rate is higher.
So no, this is not at all an indication of that something is "clearly off with the algorithms".
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Malachai Inferno FEN Edition (M) Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:48:56
Kaiser-Graf HVMR-2 FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Fri, 25 Jan 2019 03:47:41

Skildek Negator FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:38:31
Thorifoid Berserker Mace FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Tue, 25 Dec 2018 16:15:50
Corrosive Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Thu, 20 Dec 2018 08:14:11
Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Sat, 15 Dec 2018 06:04:47
Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:58:33

Skildek Negator FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:52:09
Electric Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Fri, 18 Jan 2019 02:32:38
Electric Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:36:08
Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Tue, 18 Dec 2018 05:33:30
Improved Fast Aid Pack FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Mon, 17 Dec 2018 01:54:17

Strong Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Mon, 07 Jan 2019 01:21:36
Weak Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:06:34
Strong Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Wed, 02 Jan 2019 02:26:14
 
narfi said:
girtsn, you need a higher turnover.......
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that and the below for sure
Support-Ulf said:
Yes of course, but say Entropia Universe is a race track, you have a slow car, someone else has a fast car, to compare yourself to the fast car will not do you any good as you are competing in different races.
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Indeed you are #5 last 30 days and #10 in 90 days, sucks to have not gotten any :(
And don't be so passive about whining, let it all out.
But as messi says, keep on shooting and good things will happen (most likely to him though :D )
Alina said:
imagine if he didn't had that imp fap :laugh:
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I have added a small Google Sheet for the fen item loot top based on EL rare list, link

added discoveries to be complete
and removed the clothing

so far the top looks as follows, gz!
Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel - 6x
Gaina Messi91 Cristi - 5x
Eve Evey Everglades - 3x
Ionut xHyper Manuel - 3x
Rute KILLER Marlene - 2x
WUDI MEIREN TIANXIA - 2x
and then 44 avatars have 1x
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All I see is hours of effort spent on both parties resulting in an Elf making shit up. Funny story by the way, :popcorn: worthy I suppose. Completely futile beyond entertainment, but it’s easy money from MA perspective. More practically speaking, Joda paid shooters to help him with FFA5 amounting to approximately 10k PED cycled per hour, for a few hours per day. Did we see him loot rare items proportional to PED cycled? At this point, we should safely conclude that PED cycled is a factor, but certainly not the main one. Back to our friendly support, using your own analogy, I think the general customer base knows the “speed of your car”. ;) Or tailored to our more technical audience, an “Oracle 10g”. ;)
 
Toprez said:
All I see is hours of effort spent on both parties resulting in an Elf making shit up. Funny story by the way, :popcorn: worthy I suppose. Completely futile beyond entertainment, but it’s easy money from MA perspective. More practically speaking, Joda paid shooters to help him with FFA5 amounting to approximately 10k PED cycled per hour, for a few hours per day. Did we see him loot rare items proportional to PED cycled? At this point, we should safely conclude that PED cycled is a factor, but certainly not the main one. Back to our friendly support, using your own analogy, I think the general customer base knows the “speed of your car”. ;) Or tailored to our more technical audience, an “Oracle 10g”. ;)
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hmm bit confused
* nothing wrong, effort based item drops, troll & elf Smilgs making shit up
* but then, some put in a lot of effort and got nothing (exactly what the troll is saying)

again I am not blaming the players and never was, seriously gz to everyone that got items be it 7 or 1, and sorry for those that got nada while putting in serious turnovers :(

my point is and was that these kind of shit had happened a lot in past, resulting in some avatars getting unreasonably more than others not proportional to turnover (start of event, server restarts, overamping, loot waves, supposed prior knowledge to arrive somewhere at right time, you name it)

maybe it would be time to fix it instead of arguing that there is no issue like my support conversation clearly shows?
 
girtsn said:
hmm bit confused
* nothing wrong, effort based item drops, troll & elf Smilgs making shit up
* but then, some put in a lot of effort and got nothing (exactly what the troll is saying)

again I am not blaming the players and never was, seriously gz to everyone that got items be it 7 or 1, and sorry for those that got nada while putting in serious turnovers :(

my point is and was that these kind of shit had happened a lot in past, resulting in some avatars getting unreasonably more than others not proportional to turnover (start of event, server restarts, overamping, loot waves, supposed prior knowledge to arrive somewhere at right time, you name it)

maybe it would be time to fix it instead of arguing that there is no issue like my support conversation clearly shows?
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Your confusion confuses me. Was it not obvious that I'm agreeing with you? The problem is, as long as MA is business as usual, there is no incentive for MA to make the change/adjustment for a much more pleasant customer experience. Again, just to repeat myself, as you can see, your ticket handler "Ulf" is making up stories to convince you, that "nothing is wrong". The loot algorithm was probably in place for the last 15 years with minor tweaks (e.g., no double ATHs). There has to be a business justification for a change to happen.
 
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well indeed it is working perfectly :)

suppor-Ulf said:
First off, we don't comment on other players in specific via support cases however it is as always important that you don't compare yourself to other avatars if you do not know their variables, for example these players could have a very high cycling rate with very high activity, as such they of course would have a higher chance to get these items if their overall hunting rate is higher.
So no, this is not at all an indication of that something is "clearly off with the algorithms".
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Malachai Inferno FEN Edition (M) Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Mon, 28 Jan 2019 07:47:47
Malachai Inferno FEN Edition (M) Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:48:56

Kaiser-Graf HVMR-2 FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Fri, 25 Jan 2019 03:47:41
Skildek Negator FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:38:31
Thorifoid Berserker Mace FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Tue, 25 Dec 2018 16:15:50
Corrosive Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Thu, 20 Dec 2018 08:14:11
Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Sat, 15 Dec 2018 06:04:47
Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:58:33

Skildek Negator FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:52:09
Electric Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Fri, 18 Jan 2019 02:32:38
Electric Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:36:08
Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Tue, 18 Dec 2018 05:33:30
Improved Fast Aid Pack FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Mon, 17 Dec 2018 01:54:17

Strong Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Mon, 07 Jan 2019 01:21:36
Weak Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:06:34
Strong Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Wed, 02 Jan 2019 02:26:14
 
girtsn said:
well indeed it is working perfectly :)



Malachai Inferno FEN Edition (M) Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Mon, 28 Jan 2019 07:47:47
Malachai Inferno FEN Edition (M) Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:48:56

Kaiser-Graf HVMR-2 FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Fri, 25 Jan 2019 03:47:41
Skildek Negator FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:38:31
Thorifoid Berserker Mace FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Tue, 25 Dec 2018 16:15:50
Corrosive Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Thu, 20 Dec 2018 08:14:11
Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Sat, 15 Dec 2018 06:04:47
Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Penethol Junkman Bloodsteel Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:58:33

Skildek Negator FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:52:09
Electric Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Fri, 18 Jan 2019 02:32:38
Electric Attack Nanochip XIII FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:36:08
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Strong Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Mon, 07 Jan 2019 01:21:36
Weak Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:06:34
Strong Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Wed, 02 Jan 2019 02:26:14
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from what I saw Ionut xHyper Manuel will be more towards 5/6 claw than 3 :rolleyes:
 
morfoc said:
from what I saw Ionut xHyper Manuel will be more towards 5/6 claw than 3 :rolleyes:
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Junkman approved today xHyper's request for another pair of claws, watch the global chat tonight :cool:

Actually :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
 
girtsn said:
well indeed it is working perfectly :)



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Castorian Combat Mace Mk.VI FEN Edition Gaina Messi91 Cristi Tue, 18 Dec 2018 05:33:30
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Strong Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Mon, 07 Jan 2019 01:21:36
Weak Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:06:34
Strong Argonaut Claw FEN Edition Ionut xHyper Manuel Wed, 02 Jan 2019 02:26:14
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Cant see anything wrong, it all dropped at different days and different times, not like in old days, when 10 items dropped the first hour after server restart and then nothing more (event over).

So what is going wrong for those who get nothing?

Maybe its the waste of time, searching through EL discoverys and rare loots, assembling list who looted what and when, while those who actually looted it didn´t waste their time and just went hunting.

Think about it.
 
tracked globals are close enough approximation of turnover (besides hunting in team / shared loot), there are some who had more or same turnover and got nothing while couple got 3-6 items. does not seem very random - and as loot is still wave based just short waves, it is not random
it is a selected few for whom messi's advise of shooting more and you will succeed more works
GoNi said:
Cant see anything wrong, it all dropped at different days and different times, not like in old days, when 10 items dropped the first hour after server restart and then nothing more (event over)
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So since all stuff gone from trader now make FEN 3 faze or let us transform platinum to gold tokens if no 3 faze than?
 
morfoc said:
from what I saw Ionut xHyper Manuel will be more towards 5/6 claw than 3 :rolleyes:
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You got me, you are too smart, please dont tell them i have more than 3 , i will give you one if you keep ur mouth :beerchug:
 
So we have over 26% of FEN items looted by 4 avatars.

These 4 avatars combined global amount is roughly 30% of the total global amount of the top 15 hunters in the month on EL. So basically they have looted proportionally the amount of FEN items they should have looted if the only people that existed in the game were the top 15 hunters and them. That's pretty ridiculous.

Honestly, it doesn't take a math wiz to realize the numbers are pretty much impossible if the items are looted based on money cycled/ times you've rolled the dice.

Also, one of these 4 players with the most FEN items looted has less than 1/15th of the total global loot for the last 30 days as the top hunter for the last 30 days.

If you think the system is working totally fine, give a reasonable counter argument with some numbers for why you think it is.
 
lethal said:
So we have over 26% of FEN items looted by 4 avatars.

These 4 avatars combined global amount is roughly 30% of the total global amount of the top 15 hunters in the month on EL. So basically they have looted proportionally the amount of FEN items they should have looted if the only people that existed in the game were the top 15 hunters and them. That's pretty ridiculous.

Honestly, it doesn't take a math wiz to realize the numbers are pretty much impossible if the items are looted based on money cycled/ times you've rolled the dice.

Also, one of these 4 players with the most FEN items looted has less than 1/15th of the total global loot for the last 30 days as the top hunter for the last 30 days.

If you think the system is working totally fine, give a reasonable counter argument with some numbers for why you think it is.
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Hi all

My hunting rank is 9 of 4037 and no loot any FEN item and no hof over 7k ped .

Bad random MA

Gl all
 
The MeanMachine said:
So since all stuff gone from trader now make FEN 3 faze or let us transform platinum to gold tokens if no 3 faze than?
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They have a tt value :) Adding more stuff this late would be a real shitty move against people who dumped tokes on TP chips or sold cheap.
 
slither said:
They have a tt value :) Adding more stuff this late would be a real shitty move against people who dumped tokes on TP chips or sold cheap.
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and not renewing stocks would be shitty move against people that have hunted and saved tokens and are stil hunting for them(yes ,i am biased,i have 2k tokens gathered and not spent yet)

ma should have stated beforehand how many times stocks will be renewed,i dont get the secrecy,players that invest in tokens and have nothing to spent it on will never invest again
 
fluske said:
and not renewing stocks would be shitty move against people that have hunted and saved tokens and are stil hunting for them(yes ,i am biased,i have 2k tokens gathered and not spent yet)

ma should have stated beforehand how many times stocks will be renewed,i dont get the secrecy,players that invest in tokens and have nothing to spent it on will never invest again
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:O played your hand too late? :O
 
Post_History said:
:O played your hand too late? :O
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i am counting on new stock yes,it would be ridiculous of an company to host an event(and its still ongoing) and not to have players that participate be able to buy something for the tokens

if there is no renewel,so be it,but it will mean for me ( besided the fact that we didnt loot an fen-item after hundredsa and hundreds of mayhemspider 3 cat globals)that i will feel cheated on,and i will draw my conclusions on that
 
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