And now the slog begins!

AkiranBlade

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Day 154 - 26/03/2008

Well, since Coolness unlocked I have been slacking off somewhat, not been able to devote quite as much time as I had previous to the unlock. To be honest I needed the break, well, not so much a break but an easing of my hours in EU :)

So, what has the ol' Blade got for you in this instalment? Not a great deal to be perfectly honest. I was on a personal mini-mission; Loot a complete set of Shogun and a Complete set of Gremlin. It was going well until I hit the Berycled and Merp LA. The merps were not dropping any Gremlin at all so I felt I wasn't making any progress. In the end I decided to save money and just buy the final pieces to complete the set, although, I'm still looking for Gloves right now.

Skill Progression? Well, this is moving along relatively nicely. It's great when a new skill unlocks as the Levels start to whizz by with some velocity.

A basic overview of where I am at now is as follows:

  • Health at 125
  • Laser Pistoleer at 41.8
  • Ranged Laser at 38.7
  • Laser Weaponry Technology getting close to 6000 @ 5913
  • Anatomy made it over the 5k mark
  • Coolness is bearing down on the 1k mark

So Blade, where's this data you've been promising? Well, I've finally entered it all (I have a tendancy to utilise pen and paper and then have to transfer into electronic data :/)

So, while I have been hunting from Serendipity to Coolness I had been focusing on the same mob, Argonauts, South of Nymphtown. The test/project was to hunt from level 30 to 35 without an Amplifier and 35 to 40 with.

Below you can see the graph comparison, unfortunately it is a little busy to see the actual comparison but I've not had time to play with the data set to make it clearer. The second graph is the same data but with a 5 reading trendline for each series.


Hunting Comparison, amped vs. unamped


Comparison with Trendline

As you can see from the Graphs, Level 30 to 35 took 79 hunts and 35 to 40 took 102 hunts. Given that I had amped on the latter 5 levels there was still a significant increase in the number hunts to achieve Level 40. Most of which were stacked up in the final Level.

While a picture can speak a thousand words, a graph alone is not the whole picture. Looking at the graphs it is easy to say the returns are averaging about the same, but the actual points of data speak of otherwise.

Overall figures including überHoFs:
Average Profit/Loss: 52.58 PED
Average Profit/Loss L30 to L35: -61.45 PED
Average Profit/Loss L35 to L40: 75.21 PED
Total Profit/Loss: 17770.72 PED
Total Profit/Loss L30 to L35: -4854.74 PED
Total Profit/Loss L35 to L40: 7671.61 PED

Overall figures ommitting überHoFs:
Average Profit/Loss: -56.20 PED
Average Profit/Loss L30 to L35: -61.45 PED
Average Profit/Loss L35 to L40: -67.86 PED
Total Profit/Loss: -18827.80 PED
Total Profit/Loss L30 to L35: -4854.74 PED
Total Profit/Loss L35 to L40: -6854.28 PED

Total Ammo Cycled: 105779 PED
Total Ammo Cycled L30 to L35: 26020 PED
Total Ammo Cycled L35 to L40: 34680 PED

So, what does this data tell us? It shows us that essentially, there is more loss in using an amplifier in a controlled test. The key figures are (when ommitting large loots):

Average Loss L30 to L35 (unamped): -61.45
Average Loss L35 to L40 (amped):-67.86

When I show this as a percentage (taken from my data) the difference is a bit over 1%:

Average Loss L30 to L35 (unamped): -18.66%
Average Loss L35 to L40 (amped):-19.96%

where the percentage is calculated as loss versus input PED. The exact difference is 1.30%. So, you're probably thinking, 1%, I can live with that but lets work out what that 1% means in terms of real PEDs.

Total Ammo Cycled * 1%
34680 PED * 0.01 = 346.80

Over 102 hunts we're incurring an extra loss of 346.80 PED when using an amplifier. Extrapolate this out over the time you would be in Entropia Universe and it could amount to quite a difference.

Now there are some important factors to note here.

1) I was using a finisher when amped. (Improved Defender)
2) I was using all non SIB weaponry

To get a better picture we would also need to understand the difference when hunting with a weapon that has been maxed on stats to get a fairer picture on unamped and amped hunting.

On the subject of ommitting the überHoFs, I'm fairly confident that if I hadn't have receieved those large loots I would have a number of smaller HoFs which would have increased the average loots, this would certainly marry up with my experience previous to starting again. Therefore, in my opinion, ommitting the überHoFs is pretty much corrupting the figures as much as they are when they're included.

So, where do I go now? Well, having messed around with a number of different mobs, I am now going to camp Ambulimax to understand what Ambulimax hunting is all about now that they have some serious HP and a ridiculous regeneration period.

Below is the data for Level 35 to 40, please note, if you grabbed data from my previous blogs, that I have modified the format slightly now but the core hunt data columns should be the same.

I hope you, the reader, found this post informative.

Regards,
{aB;}

Code:
Hunt Ammo PED,Return PED,Decay PED,Profit/Loss,%,Notes,Globals,Levels,Notes 2
340,301.25,106.37,-145.12 ,-42.68%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,35,Level 35
340,272.91,107.2,-174.29 ,-51.26%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,344.67,107.35,-102.68 ,-30.20%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,483.58,99.57,44.01 ,12.94%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,2,,2 Globals
340,365.01,100.19,-75.18 ,-22.11%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,557.95,97.76,120.19 ,35.35%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,3,,3 Globals
340,307.99,100.88,-132.89 ,-39.09%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,365.5,106.02,-80.52 ,-23.68%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,4,,4 Globals
340,253.15,106.73,-193.58 ,-56.94%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,441.33,102.63,-1.30 ,-0.38%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,2,,2 Globals
340,593.3,106.99,146.31 ,43.03%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,4,,4 Globals
340,327,106.84,-119.84 ,-35.25%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,238.37,111.84,-213.47 ,-62.79%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,442.77,103.25,-0.48 ,-0.14%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,613.93,106.36,167.57 ,49.29%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,2,,2 Globals
340,232.82,107.53,-214.71 ,-63.15%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,268.77,101.7,-172.93 ,-50.86%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,36,Level 36
340,546.5,104.91,101.59 ,29.88%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,2,,2 Globals
340,1245.6,104.01,801.59 ,235.76%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 HoF (983 Argonaut)
340,321.01,105.38,-124.37 ,-36.58%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,201.2,98.19,-236.99 ,-69.70%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,248.59,103.17,-194.58 ,-57.23%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,352.99,99.45,-86.46 ,-25.43%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,367.18,101.28,-74.10 ,-21.79%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,290.32,102.32,-152.00 ,-44.71%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,495.83,102.26,53.57 ,15.76%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,2,,2 Globals
340,305.11,102.87,-137.76 ,-40.52%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,383.47,105.8,-62.33 ,-18.33%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,202.13,105.53,-243.40 ,-71.59%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,436.57,103.66,-7.09 ,-2.09%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,248.3,101.76,-193.46 ,-56.90%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,284.4,102.53,-158.13 ,-46.51%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,317.85,101.89,-124.04 ,-36.48%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,415.34,104.36,-29.02 ,-8.54%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,2,,2 Globals
340,376.79,105.41,-68.62 ,-20.18%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,351.39,109.94,-98.55 ,-28.99%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,37,1 Global  Level 37
340,439.42,105.48,-6.06 ,-1.78%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,2,,2 Globals
340,326.16,106.13,-119.97 ,-35.29%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,353.56,104.98,-91.42 ,-26.89%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,365.26,106.87,-81.61 ,-24.00%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,496.99,111.13,45.86 ,13.49%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,296.1,110.96,-154.86 ,-45.55%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,372.72,112.82,-80.10 ,-23.56%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,,,
340,432.19,105.37,-13.18 ,-3.88%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,3,,3 Globals
340,315.65,106.57,-130.92 ,-38.51%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k,1,,1 Global
340,334.06,101.46,-107.40 ,-31.59%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,224.63,105.55,-220.92 ,-64.98%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,308.74,104.4,-135.66 ,-39.90%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,594.77,105.41,149.36 ,43.93%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,4,,4 Globals
340,576.26,101.85,134.41 ,39.53%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,4,,4 Globals
340,223.26,105.48,-222.22 ,-65.36%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,697.8,102.88,254.92 ,74.98%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,4,,4 Globals
340,519.69,105.17,74.52 ,21.92%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,2,,2 Globals
340,323.32,106.44,-123.12 ,-36.21%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,278.3,108.49,-170.19 ,-50.06%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,38,Level 38
340,433.77,103.66,-9.89 ,-2.91%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,3,,3 Globals
340,323.67,98.14,-114.47 ,-33.67%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,384.78,103.66,-58.88 ,-17.32%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,2,,2 Globals
340,387.52,106.7,-59.18 ,-17.41%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,385.78,104.28,-58.50 ,-17.21%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,372.36,106.17,-73.81 ,-21.71%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,764.46,105.46,319.00 ,93.82%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,5,,5 Globals
340,366.24,103.91,-77.67 ,-22.84%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,3,,3 Globals
340,14968.28,102.36,14525.92 ,4272.33%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,2,,2 Globals 1 HoF (14661)
340,393.62,101.65,-48.03 ,-14.13%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,288.96,101.49,-152.53 ,-44.86%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,328,101.31,-113.31 ,-33.33%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,175.44,105.3,-269.86 ,-79.37%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,361.44,104.19,-82.75 ,-24.34%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,2,,2 Globals
340,503.27,105.09,58.18 ,17.11%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,2,,2 Globals
340,276.25,102.48,-166.23 ,-48.89%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,370.81,104.7,-73.89 ,-21.73%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,2,,2 Globals
340,196.22,103.61,-247.39 ,-72.76%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,257.71,112.08,-194.37 ,-57.17%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,540.39,97.95,102.44 ,30.13%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,225.81,102.65,-216.84 ,-63.78%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,346.13,100.62,-94.49 ,-27.79%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,39,1 Global Level 39
340,285,108.18,-163.18 ,-47.99%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,398.06,101.57,-43.51 ,-12.80%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,168.28,98.72,-270.44 ,-79.54%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,339.83,100.99,-101.16 ,-29.75%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,466.77,108.23,18.54 ,5.45%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,274.12,107.2,-173.08 ,-50.91%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,273.58,106.62,-173.04 ,-50.89%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,439.15,110.43,-11.28 ,-3.32%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,391.1,109.05,-57.95 ,-17.04%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,375.03,99.65,-64.62 ,-19.01%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,199.46,115.95,-256.49 ,-75.44%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,278.58,114.2,-175.62 ,-51.65%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,
340,346.22,102.34,-96.12 ,-28.27%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global
340,374.24,107.93,-73.69 ,-21.67%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global  Longu
340,577.03,106.47,130.56 ,38.40%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,Longu
340,288.93,124.1,-175.17 ,-51.52%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,Atrax
340,402.9,105.53,-42.63 ,-12.54%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,Longu
340,468.11,106.33,21.78 ,6.41%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,Longu
340,351.79,111.7,-99.91 ,-29.39%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,Longu
340,746.07,109.81,296.26 ,87.14%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,5,,5 Globals Longu
340,272.26,105.47,-173.21 ,-50.94%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,Longu
340,262.75,103.67,-180.92 ,-53.21%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,1,,1 Global Longu
340,195.38,107.34,-251.96 ,-74.11%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,Longu
340,403.57,104.84,-41.27 ,-12.14%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,,,Longu
340,564.09,106.17,117.92 ,34.68%,Improved M2870 + A204 + Angel + Improved FF8k + Improved Defender,5,40,5 Globals Level 40 Coolness
 
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