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    Quote Originally Posted by karelmib View Post
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    Please,u must delete secondary item from upgrade process and everything will be ok.


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    As of now, this is the only option that will keep me around. I don't care whether or not I really end up using the tier system, I want the OPTION of being able to do it, without needing a second item. I said it once, I'll say it again - I will NOT mind spending several hundred ped per tier unlock on MY weapon/gear if given the choice, but if it requires a second item, that's bullshit!
    There is no rhyme nor reason to WHY MA brainfarted this idea outta their armpit, other than pure frakkin' greed.

    (gee, I wonder if I'll have good loots for the rest of Dec )


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    that needs an upgrade from the Kindergarten where MA employees currently spend their time.
    That's hard to do, they haven't tiered it up enough to unlock it yet, and even if they do - it's a unique item, and they haven't looted a second one yet
    Careful, or I'll hit you with my Wall O' Text!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco|FPC View Post
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    MA says they have some other things in the system that hasn't been found yet. Even unique items will be upgradable.
    weeeeeeeee

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    ok now can anyone please explain, why in gods name did they implement such a "brilliant" idea, why the 2nd item? didnt they see the uproar from their "customers".
    i cant find any reason, but hey .. its too early, i didnt have coffee, yadda yadda... so can anyone please explain ?
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    This game is similar to anal sex... if you try to force it... no one will be happy...Let it come naturally...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRDoom View Post
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    So you still lose the 2nd item....?
    From what I can garner from the rushed 3am post, is that if you have sufficient skills in this new profession, then you can reduce the chance of losing the 2nd item to 0%.

    We need Marco to clarify this!

    If this is the case, then the only problem I see with Unlimited items is that they gain their Tiers too quickly. This is ofc unless moving from Tier 9 to Tier 10 is at least 200 times more difficult than getting to Tier 1 from Tier 0.

    That said, I hope it doesn't take too long before we find out how to upgrade Unique and 1-of-a-kind items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunab Naverith View Post
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    Marco, let me be blunt - this is bullshit. Requirement of a second item, ON ANY LEVEL, is pure bullshit.

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    You guys had a great concept, but then someone there decided to find a way to take a tier upgrade system that's found in any regular RPG and fuck it up with a RCE concept that is a hidden item-control check system that specifically targets ubers, harms the bottom line for mid levelers, and gives low levelers a very harsh ped drain - all in your misguided efforts of 'fairness'.
    Socialism and it's ilk does not work, especially when trying to mix with capitalism - virtual or otherwise.

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    well there is a relief , now we know the second item isn't lost after a succesful attempt. now the system is really interesting . all the MU and the value of enhancers depends on players , how much are willing to pay for it. nobody is forcing anybody to upgrade or something . but if some will do and will have benefits from that they will get ahead compaired who have chosen not to enhance.
    if upgrading would be risk free , for UL expensive items , players would cry about that , ubers are stronger etc .
    this risk assumed by the UL item owner will give greater value to his item in case of succes . in case of failure or even loosing second item , will increase the value of similar items already upgraded , so there you have the increase value of the items . speaking of capitalism , NOTHING comes for free .
    in my opinion new proffesion will arise :
    -crafters that upgrade items ( yes , i am aware of scam possibilities , but known , famous crafters ingame will be trusted and probably will proceed with this new oportunity )
    - hunters that are close to 100 levels will be able to offer a service for middle players that want UL guns upgraded to tear x.9
    - traders that will lend rare items for a colateral so you can upgrade your expensive items , without buying a new one .
    you wanted CAPITALISM ? now you have it ! and enjoy its beauty
    and leave politics outside EF.com .
    Last edited by Fredy Olafson; 12-19-2009 at 09:56. Reason: typo ;)

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    Well, a great relife the second item is not lost. The system has similarities to coloring/textures. With a requirment of a "second copy" they put and break on improvment of rare itmes (not to bad) and make it easier for items that is common. The not found "feauture" could be a "mirror" item that could be used as a second item for all items.

    The only thing that makes me a bit conserned is the upgrade action and skill. You must trust the player who is going to do the upgrade. On low tiers it will be so easy all owe us can do it, but on higher tiers i guess we need to use one with skills. Okey, it is the same thing when ask someone to do a coloring, but some items is very expansive. Also big societies with at least two of the same rare item have an advandage because they can help each other easier to upgrade (maybe that is what MA had in mind.....).

    But i sound not a to bad system. But i guess it will take time before the prices on enchanters comes down to a nice level....

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    Subscribing to this thread, and I'm pleased to hear that even unique items can be upgraded via a "yet to be understood, discovered" method.

    Lot's of which I hope will be made more clear.

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    I think there are much things to discover about the new system. Maybe it's good maybe it needs still some improvements. Overall i think it will be the same as with most new things: They provide opportunities and traps. Anyway it's something nice to do research with

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    Quote Originally Posted by alh View Post
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    A "check" is pen and paper rpg vocabulary for a dice roll.
    Simply put, If the dice roll is within a certain range, you succeed, if its outside, you fail.
    What the range is depends on the situation, considering your characters skill and equipment and how difficult the action is. (and possibly a bunch of other things, depending on how complicated you want to make it)
    Correct, and in line with Planet Calypso being an MMORPG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Rogue View Post
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    Aaahh... the other things.

    I'm sure that MA will secretly implement these “other things” one day, once they actually figure out what they should be.

    Well, if you happen to stumble upon an Upgrade Replicator, I'd suggest you don't TT it. ,-)
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