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RickNinjaHunter

RickNinjaHunter

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RicK Ninja Hunter
So,

I was wondering why so many people hate on me, other than the obvious... Rick 'Whinger' Hunter...

I have been playing with this ava since jan 2006, and I had this overwhelming desire to win a big ATH in EU and I would leave my mark...

However things did not turn out as I thought, and years later I have some huge regrets, and out of pocket by what some people would claim as a small fortune..

I am not crying about spilt milk, as in my eyes whats done is done.. but could have been done smarter.. anyways forumn junkies can jump all over this thread with all the wise cracks in the world, but bear this in mind, next time you want to have a "Go" at me for whinging about my loot shortly after a nice hof or global... cause' it just aint enough...

OR IS IT Mindark?

Checkout this vid I made, and leave your criticisms and comments under the link below...
http://www.xfire.com/video/33e3f7/
Seems Xfire deleted my video...
 
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Wow 155K USD deposited, that is a shitload.
I feel the same way with only ~ 30k usd deposited.

Never the less,
no use crying over spilt milk and regets can eat you up if you let them. ;)
 
Unfortunaetly i cant wach your video... you still write Investments? Is everything lost?
 
Did you remove it?

I effectively quit (with a few pop-backs for chat 08/09) 2006. The few times I've been on to try the game anew made me use up every good item I had left from then.

Little time spent and cash equivalent of an ultimate gamer PC wasted in a few measly attempts to have some fun made me realize this casino was not for me.

2006 and earlier it was fine.
 
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if u sold all u got, how much would u have back % wise?

It seems an insane amount of peds. I mean investing 1.550.000 ped in hopes of getting 100.000 peds reward (at best) is not economically sound,to say the least.

You could move to thailand, open strip bar, have a new 'love you long time' everyday and make ur money grow and feel no aggrivation what so ever about the activity.

hope it works out for you!
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Well I don't agree with 155k USD in 4yrs whilst just doing normal gaming activities, however that amount over 10 yrs is pretty much what I had in mind in putting into Entropia until I found out how much of a casino it really is and how lax the Swedish are at determining what is gambling and what is not.

Add a bit of skill here and there that can mean absolutely jack shit to outcomes and whola you can run a casino without being called a gambling site.

It is that good over there to run such a business.

Link > https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...180259-entropia-universe-gambling-thesis.html

Even the authorities have been caugh with their pants down saying they have not tested Entropia properly but they think a lot of skill is involved so its not gambling :laugh:

Crazy shit, Entropia would not pass the Australian regulators if properly tested.

Anyhow, there are many who have deposited large amounts of money and now have regrets in what they have achieved but seriously there is no use in crying about it as it is all just a learning experience.

You got taken for a ride, learn from it. I did :)
 
Well in your tracker i can see 1´191,734 peds. Thats correspond to 120 K dollars. If I divide this amount per 155 K dollars:

120/155 = 78% at TT value. And if i suppose that you have received some peds more (to TT) because Tracker is not working all time...

yes! The magical RR of 90% respect to TT amount, at long term is true!! :yay:

Well, the only thing wrong that you could did, maybe is your MU return. The MU return do not depend from Mindark; depends directly from us. If you did a smart play, i suppose that you have many peds in your ped card. If not, I hope that your educational costs was worth.... and now you can to know, how play this game on a smart way.

GL
 
I've been playing since 2007, put in 600 buks maybe in total,

Since last month i've been thinking thats alot of mony and i'm gone stop deposit for a while, :ahh:

I have 4 armour sets, guns and so on, the idea now is that i only have to put in some mony for ammo,

The hunting gets boring sometimes (especially when loot sucks:silly2:) so now i'm real passive and i only hunt in team or events because i think it's alot more fun,

But my point is, here i am having the same feeling about 600 dollar :laugh:

And was it 15k dollar or 150k? And how the hell did you manage to burn that so fast? No offence.

Good luck, dont give up!
 
N00b said:
And was it 15k dollar or 150k? And how the hell did you manage to burn that so fast? No offence.
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It was close to 156K USD, Not 15K, 15K is what I deposit in just over a year of playing and I thought that was enough to start a crafting business ... wrong ! lol

And I did two and a half years of that.

Rick was well known for the crazy crafting he did a lot of, Amps and some of the nicer expensive items in game.

I can easily imagine how he burned through that sort of cash.
It is not difficult to do when working with expensive markup stuff & amps
 
Xavier_Jr said:
Well in your tracker i can see 1´191,734 peds. Thats correspond to 120 K dollars. If I divide this amount per 155 K dollars:

120/155 = 78% at TT value. And if i suppose that you have received some peds more (to TT) because Tracker is not working all time...

yes! The magical RR of 90% respect to TT amount, at long term is true!! :yay:
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I honestly hope this is a joke.
 
Well rick isn't the smartest player in EU by far, but loosing that much is excessive, even for his playing style. At least good to know that MA doesn't compensate for bad decissions at it is mostly about a fixed % tt returns.
 
Lavawalker said:
I can easily imagine how he burned through that sort of cash.
It is not difficult to do when working with expensive markup stuff & amps
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I figured the hi lvl crafters make mony on the nice stuff, like shear pro, rutuba and so on, the markup is alot, :scratch2:

This seems not to be the case :loco: I'm warned, thx and i'm staying away from that slot machine, did i say slot? Sorry meant Craft Terminal :laugh:
 
If you can't afford it obviously you shouldn't deposit and if you do anyway, not more than those $10-20 a month / $100-300 a year.

I've spend a lot of money over the 5½ years (I think) I've played. I especially remember comming home at drunk once spending $600 dollars (which I didn't actually have) in a blink of an eye. I do regret doing that, but even so, I can, though I'm actually rather poor, afford such a screw up and so should all people who are able to make such a screw up, be able too.

Then there's the $155.000... You don't just spend $155.000 and the whine about it. It's an insult to anyone to am not able to do so them selves, but even so, now that you've done it anyway... A person who are even able to waste that amount of money obviously don't need them and are, in my oppinion, not allowed to whine about it.

My advise is that next time you feel like wasting $155.000, then donate the money to some poor children or something. That way you can be proud of something instead of just whining about it.


Best regards.
 
That is a huge amount deposited.

But I remember another thread you showed something like the last 30-60-90 days deposits/withdrawal. Might have been someone else, I'm not 100% sure.

155k deposited isnt that much if you've withdrawn 130k.
 
Let me just say: OMG never had an idea, that amount of cash was goiing trough here: 121.000 Euro's: thats a small house! I knew CND was 75k euro's and that was crazy...
A game like this is like a FIXED gamble. Just have to find the fun stuff in it I guess. If u hof meanwhile, u were just lucky.

Let me say this: I really feel for u, it's not good to have a gambling addiction, but we all know, games can add that huge extra on the addiction... Hope u can get most of it back ...
 
Zacariaz said:
Then there's the $155.000... You don't just spend $155.000 and the whine about it. It's an insult to anyone to am not able to do so them selves.
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No it's not, and its not our place to judge that,

Infact it's a good thing for us all if alot of mony is put in our Universe, i think,

Also respect to the person to come out with his story. We can all learn from it,
 
Kerham said:
I honestly hope this is a joke.
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A year ago I would have thought the same thing as you. But it is not a joke. It is difficult to understand for everybody, that we are not playing against Mindark. Mindark only sell us a service. Mindark receives nothing of value MU. Therefore only charged based TT value. Many studies such as the Falkao work and others have told us about a return rate TT 90% in the long term. But normally, we can not see it. Remember that if you always lose 10% of what you puts in the game, you can reinvest your money only some 10 times before running out of anything. So MU value is really the only important thing when we play. ;)
 
Xavier_Jr said:
A year ago I too would have thought the same thing as you. But it is not a joke.
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I was talking about your math, not about the concept itself. Since when the hell can you make that aberation of math about what ET shows? Apply it then to some nondepo, say Harmony (dunno at this point what his ET shows, let's say 320k total), what's that means that she has an impossible return since you can't divide by 0? :silly:
 
Zacariaz said:
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My advise is that next time you feel like wasting $155.000, then donate the money to some poor children or something. That way you can be proud of something instead of just whining about it.


Best regards.
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+rep Zac for a good idea (for some that dont know where to put money)

That... and my advice: Next time you quit, do It. Don`t do It like you did last time.
I know at least one more person that will post soon probably, somewhat the same post as you, since last quitting threads you two made almost on the same day, but both continued to play with the same style.

Also, Its interesting... I stoped following my complete history of depoing after some time, I know Its too much that I`ve spent also.. but, Its a cash thats spent for fun. Why look back?!

Wondering what is the whole purpose of checking this and then reporting It to the whole wide eu community?

Cheers,
Robo:smoke:
 
N00b said:
I figured the hi lvl crafters make mony on the nice stuff, like shear pro, rutuba and so on, the markup is alot, :scratch2:

This seems not to be the case :loco: I'm warned, thx and i'm staying away from that slot machine, did i say slot? Sorry meant Craft Terminal :laugh:
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How could a crafter make money on Rutuba ? Beside hunting the mobs which drops it or trading ? :p
 
nix said:
Let me just say: OMG never had an idea, that amount of cash was goiing trough here: 121.000 Euro's: thats a small house! I knew CND was 75k euro's and that was crazy...
A game like this is like a FIXED gamble. Just have to find the fun stuff in it I guess. If u hof meanwhile, u were just lucky.

Let me say this: I really feel for u, it's not good to have a gambling addiction, but we all know, games can add that huge extra on the addiction... Hope u can get most of it back ...
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check out the price of CND domes currently in auc ;)
 
Kerham said:
I was talking about your math, not about the concept itself. Since when the hell can you make that aberation of math about what ET shows? Apply it then to some nondepo, say Harmony (dunno at this point what his ET shows, let's say 320k total), what's that means that she has an impossible return since you can't divide by 0? :silly:
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It is you've forgotten two concepts. A player who is training in how to do a good work in the game could have results like my friend Manique. But seems, this is not the case. I had not a good Mentor when I began to play this game (as the most of us); however the mentors of Manique were Ubers. Remember too that the sweating work is not measured by entropia tracker (Manique worked as sweter to reach 3000 peds before to play the game!) A second concept is that each one of us pay more or less to learn how works the game. And maybe Rick Ninja decide to pay with dollars while other as Manike to pay with his work (the initial capital of some people have not been recorded in registers). Only we can compute when registers exist. And in this case registers exist. ;)
 
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Lavawalker said:
Well I don't agree with 155k USD in 4yrs whilst just doing normal gaming activities, however that amount over 10 yrs is pretty much what I had in mind in putting into Entropia until I found out how much of a casino it really is and how lax the Swedish are at determining what is gambling and what is not.

Add a bit of skill here and there that can mean absolutely jack shit to outcomes and whola you can run a casino without being called a gambling site.

It is that good over there to run such a business.

Link > https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...180259-entropia-universe-gambling-thesis.html

Even the authorities have been caugh with their pants down saying they have not tested Entropia properly but they think a lot of skill is involved so its not gambling :laugh:

Crazy shit, Entropia would not pass the Australian regulators if properly tested.

Anyhow, there are many who have deposited large amounts of money and now have regrets in what they have achieved but seriously there is no use in crying about it as it is all just a learning experience.

You got taken for a ride, learn from it. I did :)
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I actually contacted the swedish Loetteri Inspektionen (lottery act) and what they told in short was that PE (EU) was investigate briefly a few years ago and that IF they did a more thorow investigation they think they would find functions in EU that COULD be seen as gambling. But they have never done this thorow investigation so EU just hangs there on a small thread until they do. But hey, then MA could just move servers and company to someother place just like all the other casino sites.
I allwas regarded PE/EU as a scratch lottery cowered in 3D and that's I allways play with money I can afford to loose and never ever sees this as any kind of investment. It's for fun and nothing else for me. And it looks like you have the same thoughts since you state that there is no use crying over spilled milk.
 
Zacariaz said:
If you can't afford it obviously you shouldn't deposit and if you do anyway, not more than those $10-20 a month / $100-300 a year.

I've spend a lot of money over the 5½ years (I think) I've played. I especially remember comming home at drunk once spending $600 dollars (which I didn't actually have) in a blink of an eye. I do regret doing that, but even so, I can, though I'm actually rather poor, afford such a screw up and so should all people who are able to make such a screw up, be able too.

Then there's the $155.000... You don't just spend $155.000 and the whine about it. It's an insult to anyone to am not able to do so them selves, but even so, now that you've done it anyway... A person who are even able to waste that amount of money obviously don't need them and are, in my oppinion, not allowed to whine about it.

My advise is that next time you feel like wasting $155.000, then donate the money to some poor children or something. That way you can be proud of something instead of just whining about it.


Best regards.
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Heya,

Like I said in my original post, this is not a whining post, although I am well known to bitch and moan, however this is an FYI post.. so that people can think about why I whinge so much... and another FYI, I do my fairer share of charity work, and I also support several charities. Don't get me wrong, I completely understand the gravity of such large deposits, but let me assure you that I know for a fact I am not the only one that has had such a huge blunder as myself in EU. At the end of the day, I feel some sort of regret, in the fact that the money could possibly have been put to better use, but no point in crying about spilt milk as I say.

I have achieved all I can in RL and anything else is a blessing. I am sure that without players who invest such a huge amount of money, to burn, literally has done some sort of good for the rest of the EU community, including Mindark. So in retrospect if I had a chance to do it again would I?
Of-fucking-course I would, but this time I will take advice from smarter players, and invest in the natural development of my avatar, rather than buying chips and clicking on condition 99.99998% of the time when I craft

C'est la Vie
Rick
 
Holy shit dude that's a lot of $.
Can relate a bit to how much it costs but not in the same scale at all.
Hopefully everyone can take a positive look at their own habit and learn from someone elses error of judgment. Don't think u whining at all nice someone come forward to show their story.
 
Now to OP:
I don't think anyone hate on you. At least i don't know anyone.
To your expenses: That's a huge amount and you should really ask yourself if it's worth to deposit that much.
I addition to that you should ask some socmates what you can do to not lose that much. Prol'ly you already did that and got answers, so nvm. But others are playing on high level and do not that bad, so you should consider to adjust you gameplay.
Ofc. i know shit about your gemplay you might think and that's true. But i think how much other ppl invested. For example BlackHawk stated once in an interview ( when i remember right don'T have the link anymore ), he deposited 40k USD once and build up all from there. Which included using a MM which was sold to purchase an ImpFap. Other examples for sure are also out there.
When you deposited above 150k USD and have nothing to backup that amount in values on your Ava you did things not very clever. I don't say i would/could do it better ( beside the fact i don'T have even that amounts to depo ), but i know you have ppl in soc who do. You should ask them for suggestions, maybe you are able to adjust yourself to affordable amounts of deposits.

Best wishes for that.

Regards
 
nix said:
Let me just say: OMG never had an idea, that amount of cash was goiing trough here: 121.000 Euro's: thats a small house! I knew CND was 75k euro's and that was crazy...
A game like this is like a FIXED gamble. Just have to find the fun stuff in it I guess. If u hof meanwhile, u were just lucky.

Let me say this: I really feel for u, it's not good to have a gambling addiction, but we all know, games can add that huge extra on the addiction... Hope u can get most of it back ...
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No offence, but if I've burnt through over 10k USD in one avatar, in one year at my level... then I imagine there are those who are less vocal than Rick, who've lost far more than 150k USD in Entropia during their time.
I once lost over $400 just on one Blueprint in one session that lasted about an hour and a half at a craft terminal. I'd pay my employees less to carry out a job for me that would bring in a $4k invoice on the side, NO GAMBLING.

EU is a casino, not a game.
 
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