Community Adviser Program

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If memory serves me correctly, when FPC or MA brought on-line the new New Player Gateway Island and we all got to go there to check it out and make comments. One of the more common comments was " this is great but it would be nice to have real players to ask questions to" . In fact on several occasions I seen ( old ) players helping new players even though FPC/MA had set up several training missions to start New Players on thier journey .
The place really needed a personal hands on touch.
Now FPC has set up a guide program to help bridge the gap. Choosing players that have shown in the past and present thier willingness to help. Thank you FPC and Hanne

The community asked for this the community got this .

Now lets get these new players in and start building the community back to where it used to be.

I'll quote Dude and comment on his post because I know he wont take the piss and get all defensive.

Your points are true Dude, however......
- I still believe that this "guide" program only covers 5% of what is required.
- I still believe that the few chosen to be a part of this program acted beyond their boundaries in this thread BEFORE I even made my first post.
- I still believe that the few chosen to be a part of this program have disgraced a group who's volunteer position is to represent Planet Calypso in a positive manner. (Don't worry about my posts here now... me acting in an unacceptable manner doesn't affect the community in the same way that a representative of the community does when they act in an unacceptable manner.)
- I still believe that due to the gifting that FPC has bestowed upon the "guides" they are under the misconception that they're "special" or at least should be treated differently then others. (I didn't see them attacking those who smack talked Calypto.... Oh wait... he attacked Hanne so he deserved it cuz she's part of the clique).
- I still believe that if Hanne would have (or at least would have been allowed to with out these "guides" jumping in) answered the questions of the community first.... then this thread wouldn't have gotten to where it is now.

In the end, this thread is border line being locked because the wonderful representatives of the community don't know when or how to act responsible and business like. Did ya see Hanne shooting her mouth off at Calypto after all the derogatory things he said about her? NO! Why? Not cus he didn't deserve it.... but because she's acting out in a professional manner because she's representing the community. Just goes to show why MA or FPC don't work with the players on a larger scale..... cuz it always turns into a flame war and those involved aren't capable of rolling with the punches when the sh!t hits the fan.

Menace
 
Menace even though you have personally insulted me before I will answer your concerns in a calm and courteous way.... I'll answer the best I can with what I know.

- I still believe that this "guide" program only covers 5% of what is required.

Why would you beleive that? It is probably the opposite. Sometimes there's too many of us for the amount of newbies and we have to redistribute to other areas. The amount of newbies coming in is not as big as you might imagine probably?

- I still believe that the few chosen to be a part of this program acted beyond their boundaries in this thread BEFORE I even made my first post.

I say that's not true but won't argue with you about that because we won't reach an agreement. We are human and we also have feelings for what we work hard in.

- I still believe that the few chosen to be a part of this program have disgraced a group who's volunteer position is to represent Planet Calypso in a positive manner. (Don't worry about my posts here now... me acting in an unacceptable manner doesn't affect the community in the same way that a representative of the community does when they act in an unacceptable manner.)

Again I don't beleive that to be true, of course we will get mad if we get insulted directly we are human but we haven't called names or said insults at all. I welcome you to come check us working on duty and see if we behave bad or good.

- I still believe that due to the gifting that FPC has bestowed upon the "guides" they are under the misconception that they're "special" or at least should be treated differently then others. (I didn't see them attacking those who smack talked Calypto.... Oh wait... he attacked Hanne so he deserved it cuz she's part of the clique).

Not at all why would any of us believe we are better????That's nonsense I'm just a regular player. And don't get me started on Calypto it's even against the forum rules to speak bad about him but he insulted many people including me,hanne,etc besides other bad things. You have no knowledge of what we as a group have talked about that issue.

- I still believe that if Hanne would have (or at least would have been allowed to with out these "guides" jumping in) answered the questions of the community first.... then this thread wouldn't have gotten to where it is now.

Well that is your belieif I think it would have turned into a flame war anyway but just a personal opinion. Ppl will always complain.

In the end, this thread is border line being locked because the wonderful representatives of the community don't know when or how to act responsible and business like.

Don't blame it on us, recap and read the whole thread, and please let's continue in a civil way.

As a side let me remind you that we are not FPC employees we are working for them but not EMPLOYED by them I don't receive a salary from FPC nor do I have an official Community Adviser KP|FPC account on the forum.

So I hope I have answered some of the things that have gotten you so angry if you want to personally ask me any questions please PM me.

As so with anyone else that would like to ask me anything please just pm me I want this thread to turn into something constructive instead of all the bashing.

Cheers all.
 
- I still believe that the few chosen to be a part of this program acted beyond their boundaries in this thread BEFORE I even made my first post.
- I still believe that the few chosen to be a part of this program have disgraced a group who's volunteer position is to represent Planet Calypso in a positive manner. (Don't worry about my posts here now... me acting in an unacceptable manner doesn't affect the community in the same way that a representative of the community does when they act in an unacceptable manner.)
- I still believe that due to the gifting that FPC has bestowed upon the "guides" they are under the misconception that they're "special" or at least should be treated differently then others. (I didn't see them attacking those who smack talked Calypto.... Oh wait... he attacked Hanne so he deserved it cuz she's part of the clique).

cuz it always turns into a flame war and those involved aren't capable of rolling with the punches when the sh!t hits the fan.

Menace

Menace , really did you read my answer and that of me. We are nothing more special then you. We atleast not special in the way you behave but that is something different. We are not acting without any boundaries? Did you see or heard us talking about something complety out of boundaries then ? For example we take over the world with all the newbies that come ? Have we said anything wrong directly which you can show for proof ? in what way did we disgrace the newbies /community / FPC ? by helping them ? offering our time to talk with newbies?

and what does calypto have to do with this ? Many of the advisers been guiding way before that.

let me say this in a menace way.

-I still believe Menace is out searching for drama and like to start flame wars about nothing.

I offered you to come stand with us and I show to you that everything you claim is not true. You never accpeted that challenge and only whine about nothing.
 
So, how about the community set a challenge to these guides? How about you all donate any equipment offered as a reward for your "free time"? Prove you are an outstanding citizen of EU!

:silly2:
 
So, how about the community set a challenge to these guides?

Just to give you an idea of a challenge.... Get one (1) newbie to talk. Yep, that's already difficult at the gateway. Let alone get them to listen or do anything. There is some good ones of course, but challenges hehehehehehehehehe. For me, keeping an eye out at two screens, and looking for what happens is challenging enough, thank you. And no, that is not to show off. But really. Try it yourself, play EU while watching a movie at the same time. Even if it is just standing around at PA. Try to see if you can find out things like how many people are there, do they move, what kind of activities do they do or have they done, and at the same time, remember everything about the movie too. Now that's a challenge!
 
KP.

I think the Adviser program only covers 5% of what's required because new players need extensive, long term 1 on 1 help. The adviser program seems to be aimed at immediate "just arrived" help. I didn't mean you's weren't capable of helping out new players in the gateway because your team consisted of 5% of the number of people required.

And Ranpha... I don't wanna stand around with you while you talk to new players.... My posts were directed in the manner they were purely due to attitude and statements (IN THIS THREAD) I felt were out of line coming from those whom are supposed to be representing OUR community. Remember.... I had some reading to do before my first response to this thread which I think was page 4 or 5.....

Yes the guide program may be better than nothing. But it's not good enough. Period.
And NO the Advisers job is NOT to answer questions directed towards Hanne or FPC here on PCF. Period.

Jot... you're too funny. Couldn't help but LOL when I read how you're finding watching a movie/being a community adviser at the same time difficult. Stay away from the porn or the poor buggers will feel like they're sending a support case to MindArk.

Newbie: Hello, can someone help me?
Community Adviser Jot: Press Enter to Talk. Press Enter to Talk. Press Enter to Talk.

ROFL

Pretty much bed time for me..... and for this thread I'm thinking.

Menace
 
KP.

I think the Adviser program only covers 5% of what's required because new players need extensive, long term 1 on 1 help. The adviser program seems to be aimed at immediate "just arrived" help. I didn't mean you's weren't capable of helping out new players in the gateway because your team consisted of 5% of the number of people required.

I understand and agree with that, that's why this is a temporary measure while mentor system is back. Besides I've always mentored people in the society or outside without them being my disciples.

It's common for Entropia to have questions even after a year of joining.

So both things are necessary people who teach you the basic things, help you reach places you need etc and then long term mentors who go side by side or friends you meet that are experienced and can help you answering your questions.

I for one let all newbies add me to the FL and some that have arrived a long time ago still ask more complex questions about the game and i help them out.

But yeah It's a real concern and I'm glad you cleared up what you actually meant.
 
KP.


And Ranpha... I don't wanna stand around with you while you talk to new players.... My posts were directed in the manner they were purely due to attitude and statements (IN THIS THREAD) I felt were out of line coming from those whom are supposed to be representing OUR community. Remember.... I had some reading to do before my first response to this thread which I think was page 4 or 5.....

Menace

Thats because we consider Hanne as a friend and our pasionate about the work we and get to do. All of the adivers want a better community. And i didnt see anything out of line otherwise Hannw or the mods would already react (either public or private). Only your frist post to support the whole program feel real bad with us.

And also you represent the community. we all do. I know you like to be convesial if somebody says A then you say B , then he agrees with you and then you say no its C and you are wrong. And I leave it with that as you are somebody that wont listen to arguments. If you find a newbie being taught wrong either teach him right or send him towards me. ( you complained about that in your first post)
 
Just to give you an idea of a challenge.... Get one (1) newbie to talk. Yep, that's already difficult at the gateway. Let alone get them to listen or do anything. There is some good ones of course, but challenges hehehehehehehehehe. For me, keeping an eye out at two screens, and looking for what happens is challenging enough, thank you. And no, that is not to show off. But really. Try it yourself, play EU while watching a movie at the same time. Even if it is just standing around at PA. Try to see if you can find out things like how many people are there, do they move, what kind of activities do they do or have they done, and at the same time, remember everything about the movie too. Now that's a challenge!

Mate, I have no trouble talking to new players at all. IN fact I have spent many an hour by meeting and making friends at Nea's while healing.

Now why the fuck would I want to watch a movie and play EU at the same time? That defeats the purpose of your role. Where's the focus and attention you should give to a new player...Pissweak! I think you need to get your priorities right, either concentrate watching a film or give 100% of your "free" time and help a n00b.
 
Now why the fuck would I want to watch a movie and play EU at the same time?

Apparently, even a description an example of how involved guiding might be compared to a situation somebody could try out by themselfs is already too difficult to even read, let alone try. Sorry, you failed the guide challenge. Try again next year.
 
Now that's a challenge!
Yes, it's a challenge, and yes it keeps you from doing your job 100% of the way on either screen... which is the exact point I keep talking about. If you want to do this "job" and have taken on the uniform, why do you continue to try to do a half-assed job by not staying focused on one screen or the other at a time, logged in to one avatar at a time instead of two, instead of trying to multi-task, which results in you not doing as good of a job as an advisor or as a participant...
 
Im locking this. The feedback at the end here doesn't seem to have improved any since I asked you to calm down.
 
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