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Zorander said:
And you pay for your sweat... which was my point. The farmer buys cheap seeds, puts in some good hard work, and gets food... I pay him for that.

The sweater has a VSE, puts in some hours sweating, and I pay him for that.

I also sweat myself, and you can too. The only reason sweaters are able to make peds is because people don't want to do it themselves.
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Absolutely stupid example... you dont buy food...you DIE!

I dont buy sweat or even better sweating demolished completely from the game doesn't mean shit to me or about 90% of players.

Please think carefully people before you try to rationalise something that is ridiculous... it's a game... people aren't gonna die from not playing it neither is it any of our responsibility to support someone that cant deposit money... again, there are a million free games for them to play... the truth is most non-depositors are only playing because of the chance of them getting something without paying anything...

I can gaurantee you this the 'non depositors' will be the first ones to leave this game if it was turned into a non RCE game.
 
It is really funny to see how people do not understand you Zorander ;).
You just say that: if people do not like non-depositors then they should not give them money. "People" understand this: i love non-depositors and i will prove they are good for everyone.
Why "people" can't read with understanding - this i do not understand ;).

I totally agree with you Zorander. Non-depositors get their money from: sweating, trading, and sometimes scaming (but depositors can do this too). If a person does not want to see non-depositor globaling/hoffing - they should not give them money by using they service of sweating or trading. How can non-depositor global/hof if he has no cash that he is getting it from depositors by using his service? There is no weapon that has cost of nothing to kill a mob.

What a depositor sees: Noob Newbie Sweater has killed a creature (Daikiba Young) and got 300peds.
The truth: Noob Newbie Sweater has been sweating his ass off to get 2000peds for selling his sweat then he went hunting. Inlcuding that hof his TT return was 1800peds.
I do agree that it can be freaking iritating to see that new players get ATH and veterans who deposit gets nothing but usuall loot. Well both have the same chance of ATHing by TT ped spent - dont you think? Newbie spends 100peds (got by sweating, trading) and hits 100k ATH. This means he was freaky lucky because his chance to get this was like 0.0000000...001%. You spent 100k peds and dont get 100k ATH well you werent lucky enough - well you still had only like 0.0001% chance to get it.
Of course if MA prefers new players than the old ones - then it is obvious that it is all MA fault ;). But also as Zorander said - if you do not belive MA - then why you pay them in first place, huh?

All shouting "people" act like a rich guy in a casino that plays there usually. He knows he will be loosing in long term because due to 36/37 rule on the roulette for example the casion always wins. One day he gives 10$ just for fun to a two people each (newbie1 and newbie2) who just walked in into the casino. One of them newbie1 sit on one handed machine and wins 10000$. Second newbie2 decide to play it safe so he plays smart for some time getting just small luck with effect of ending with 200$ after 4 hours. And now the rich guy gets so frustrated seeing this he starts to shout at the whole casino: "i hate those bums that walk in, beg for the money and then walk out with my money"...

I hope the analogy will make it clear for depositors how it works and why they are loosing peds ;).

All you want to hate are scamers (but like i said those are both non- and depositors, this is not restricted only to non-depositors and i hope you understand that ;)). If a person can get their money from the system in way that MA did not predict it - then it is not right - i fully agree on this. For example: vtol hunting is one of those things. Player using vtol for hunting does not get decay on armor/fap which really hurts MA. How many of depositors are using vtols to hunt this way - yes those are scammers ;) (unless MA really wanted them to do it so in that case they are just smart).

Falagor
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Falagor said:
All shouting "people" act like a rich guy in a casino that plays there usually. He knows he will be loosing in long term because due to 36/37 rule on the roulette for example the casion always wins. One day he gives 10$ just for fun to a two people each (newbie1 and newbie2) who just walked in into the casino. One of them newbie1 sit on one handed machine and wins 10000$. Second newbie2 decide to play it safe so he plays smart for some time getting just small luck with effect of ending with 200$ after 4 hours. And now the rich guy gets so frustrated seeing this he starts to shout at the whole casino: "i hate those bums that walk in, beg for the money and then walk out with my money"...

I hope the analogy will make it clear for depositors how it works and why they are loosing peds ;).

Falagor
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Your analogy is awesome!!!!... please point me to the casino where you can win without putting in money!
 
SunnyS said:
Your analogy is awesome!!!!... please point me to the casino where you can win without putting in money!
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In his analogy, someone gave the people money to play with... much like people give sweaters money for their sweat.

I'll say it one more time, if you want sweaters and traders to go away then DON'T GIVE THEM ANY PEDS. They don't magic peds form MA, they get them from other players. Don't like what they do? Don't pay them, it's really that easy.

As a side note, I'd appreciate it if you stop quoting partial statements and responding to them out of context as you've done with the post I quoted here.
 
You know what I had enough with this post... Now I am bored with it... Like I would ever get through to people by saying have some dignity and pay your way... Freeloaders will always be freeloaders and us people that make money will always pay for them...

Good luck with all your sucky existence ..
 
SunnyS said:
Your analogy is awesome!!!!... please point me to the casino where you can win without putting in money!
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Problem is: you are in a casino that marketing strategy is "Come in everyone, in our casino you can work as a waiter for all players inside. You will not get any money from us by doing it but it is often seen that regular players give tips to waiters. Let us everyone have fun".

What you are trying to do is to convince this casino manager to change his strategy and throw all the free waiters out. If you do not like all the free waiters running around here and there you should just go to other cassino not change the marketing strategy, don't you think?

PS: there are online poker casinos that give free 50$ starter pack (i am not sure how thsoe really work) but to withdraw you must have much more achived. And i am pretty sure they have counted it that only small % of the freeones are withdrawn so managers of thsoe sites sleep calmly ;). Strategy of this aproach is: they will loose it anyway and mayby some of them will be convinced to put inside their own money.

Falagor
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Falagor said:
Player using vtol for hunting does not get decay on armor/fap which really hurts MA. How many of depositors are using vtols to hunt this way - yes those are scammers ;) (unless MA really wanted them to do it so in that case they are just smart).
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Off topic but have to respond. In my opinion those people are far from scammers. Why would this be a scam?

I don't know what this trick actually is, but I have seen more threads about it. To me it seems MA/FPC didn't think well enough about the effect of the VTOL on their system, like they didn't think well enough when they added pools with liquid acid to the surroundings. "Pools with liquid acid?", you ask...
Yeah, back in the early days there where these kind of pools from which you injured when stepping/swimming in them. Nice feature right? Nice realism on a harsh extraterrestial world...
Well, people with a Mod Fap thought so as well. They stepped into these pools and kept healing themselves for hours and hours and hours and hours and days and weeks and months.
Or they did so with 20-50 creatures around them, hitting even more skills like Evade and Agility.

Do you think any of these people ever has been banned?

MA/FPC provides us with a platform and a game. If something works in a way that it isn't attended, it has to be fixed. until then it's a FEATURE!
 
AxeMurderer said:
thats very good achievement.
how far you in the game now?
do you own big apartment with nice furniture and stuff hanging on the walls?
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No i don't, but a storage full of stuff that could hang i could hang on the walls =) I can't complain.

hoolioz said:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?176837-My-First!!&highlight=
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:O oh i totaly forgot that lol :yay:
Ok you got me, so i dept €50,- in 6 years of playing :) Practicly the same anyway

Falagor said:
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Kemp said:
Off topic but have to respond. In my opinion those people are far from scammers. Why would this be a scam?

I don't know what this trick actually is, but I have seen more threads about it. To me it seems MA/FPC didn't think well enough about the effect of the VTOL on their system, like they didn't think well enough when they added pools with liquid acid to the surroundings. "Pools with liquid acid?", you ask...
Yeah, back in the early days there where these kind of pools from which you injured when stepping/swimming in them. Nice feature right? Nice realism on a harsh extraterrestial world...
Well, people with a Mod Fap thought so as well. They stepped into these pools and kept healing themselves for hours and hours and hours and hours and days and weeks and months.
Or they did so with 20-50 creatures around them, hitting even more skills like Evade and Agility.

Do you think any of these people ever has been banned?

MA/FPC provides us with a platform and a game. If something works in a way that it isn't attended, it has to be fixed. until then it's a FEATURE!
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Continuing with the off topic discussion... it was actually advertised in the VU notes that VTOL were a safe place from mobs. I fail to see how MA/FPC are surpirsed that people use them as a safe place from mobs, lol.
 
Kemp said:
Off topic but have to respond. In my opinion those people are far from scammers. Why would this be a scam?

I don't know what this trick actually is, but I have seen more threads about it. To me it seems MA/FPC didn't think well enough about the effect of the VTOL on their system, like they didn't think well enough when they added pools with liquid acid to the surroundings. "Pools with liquid acid?", you ask...
Yeah, back in the early days there where these kind of pools from which you injured when stepping/swimming in them. Nice feature right? Nice realism on a harsh extraterrestial world...
Well, people with a Mod Fap thought so as well. They stepped into these pools and kept healing themselves for hours and hours and hours and hours and days and weeks and months.
Or they did so with 20-50 creatures around them, hitting even more skills like Evade and Agility.

Do you think any of these people ever has been banned?

MA/FPC provides us with a platform and a game. If something works in a way that it isn't attended, it has to be fixed. until then it's a FEATURE!
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OK ;) so like i said if MA alows this - then those are just smart people ;). Time to get my vtol then :laugh:.

It was just an example - there were many bugs that were exploited that gave advantage (sweat-border bug, multi pickup fruit bug, ...) there is a old bugs thread somewhere here for this. Well from what i see MA use fast fixes only on those bug that directly hurt MA itself (free bomb drop) but not so fast any other bugs (and i understand this aproach from their point of view ;)).

End of offtopic.

And example was to mention that scammers are stealing the money from the system not non-depositors or anyone else ;).

Falagor
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I still don't understand how you guys don't get it? Right now most depositors in game are mad because of poor loots and have lowered the peds they spend and also the time they play the game. If we got rid of all the non depositors than the depositors would be happy and MA would still be happy. The depositors would partake in cycling more peds knowing they had a higher % at hitting a global, hof, or ATH and also deposit more or atleast I would. Which means in return MA would basically get the same money from us just in a better way. Also non depositors in my opinion are in a low% for cycling peds. So if us depositors cycle 90% of the peds in game compared to the 10% non depositors cycle then how is it fair for them to have the same chances of globaling, hof or even ATH??? I hate to break it to you Zorander but this isn't like the real world most people play this game to enjoy themselves and get away from all the politics and stresses in real life. Its ashame that we have just as many freeloaders in this game as we have in the real world. Just like IRL how the more people unemployed is harder on the economy because us people employed pay for them in one way or another. That is the same concept in this game with the non depositors. So end of story they do hurt overall loots for depositors in game because MA decided to make everyone equal whether you deposit or not.
 
Also if you truly believe MA has a stack of money sitting with all money that is deposited and takes from that stack the decay that is spent in game to make their profits then you are very very naive. Think about it like this. Why do withdrawls take a month minimum sometimes for larger ones even a couple of months? How do ponzi scams work? In a ponzi scam they cant pay the people who want there money without having more people put money in. I truly believe in one way or another MA works like this and if us depositors stopped depositing then the game would crash and MA wouldn't be able to pay out all the money they owe people. Also if you truly believe those financial reports are 100% accurate then they really have you brainwashed. Either MA is investing deposited money and making interest off of it or they are using new deposits to pay for old withdrawls. Otherwise there is no other reason to explain why withdrawl requests take so long.

Fred
 
m0rr0w2 said:
So if us depositors cycle 90% of the peds in game compared to the 10% non depositors cycle then how is it fair for them to have the same chances of globaling, hof or even ATH???
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who do you think will see more globals or hofs?
Palayer who cycles 10ped or player who cycles 1000ped?

m0rr0w2 said:
if us depositors stopped depositing then the game would crash and MA wouldn't be able to pay out all the money they owe people.
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This is actually in the financial report.

m0rr0w2 said:
or they are using new deposits to pay for old withdrawls. Otherwise there is no other reason to explain why withdrawl requests take so long.
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So by your logic, if i were to withdraw, then i wouldn't get my money before someone else deposits atleast the same ammount?
 
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SunnyS said:
Your analogy is awesome!!!!... please point me to the casino where you can win without putting in money!
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Any casino that will agree to give you casino chips in return of washing dishes or sweeping the floors.
 
FrostBlaze said:
who do you think will see more globals or hofs?
Palayer who cycles 10ped or player who cycles 1000ped?

*How many non depositors hit globals and hof everyday???? Also their are many to many to name that have hit ATH. So whats it matter??? They are still taking away from us depositors with those globals, hof and ATH whether it be 10 a day or 100 it stills proves my point.


This is actually in the financial report.

*Again brainwashed I see to believe everything u see in a piece of paper.



So by your logic, if i were to withdraw, then i wouldn't get my money before someone else deposits atleast the same ammount?
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* Either that or MA needs time to free up money they have invested making interest off of deposited money. Banks have been known for doing this and that is why you can't go into a bank and withdraw 100k at one shot. Even online gambling sites pay me out in 2 weeks max so explain the delay times ever since the game was created? You would think by now they would have a faster process but maybe it isn't something they want to fix :laugh:

Fred
 
remontoire said:
Any casino that will agree to give you casino chips in return of washing dishes or sweeping the floors.
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This was just dumb :laugh: I dont know where you come from but if you work at a casino here you can't play too. Also a casino pays you in money not chips LMAO. Also if MA wants to work things that way they why dont they pay these non depositors like a casino would.

Fred
 
m0rr0w2 said:
I still don't understand how you guys don't get it? Right now most depositors in game are mad because of poor loots and have lowered the peds they spend and also the time they play the game. If we got rid of all the non depositors than the depositors would be happy and MA would still be happy.
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Well, how do you know most depositors are mad? How do you know how many of the people posting the "boohoo, my loot sucks!" threads are depositors anyways? And these are serious questions.

At all the times people have been posting about how bad their loot has been, there have been others saying theirs is OK. Not always the same people, but there does not appear to be any actual reason to think that the overall loot situation as such has has really decreased. There will always be winners and losers.
 
"Playing whit out paying" is the only marketing strategy Entropia have, you can´t take it away and have nothing instead. Word of mouth "I know a free game where you can even make real money!" is how new players gets attracted.

/Wille
 
Falagor said:
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..... This means he was freaky lucky because his chance to get this was like 0.0000000...001%. You spent 100k peds and dont get 100k ATH well you werent lucky enough - well you still had only like 0.0001% chance to get it.
Of course if MA prefers new players than the old ones - then it is obvious that it is all MA fault ;). But also as Zorander said - if you do not belive MA - then why you pay them in first place, huh?

All shouting "people" act like a rich guy in a casino that plays there usually. He knows he will be loosing in long term because due to 36/37 rule on the roulette for example the casion always wins. One day he gives 10$ just for fun to a two people each (newbie1 and newbie2) who just walked in into the casino. One of them newbie1 sit on one handed machine and wins 10000$. Second newbie2 decide to play it safe so he plays smart for some time getting just small luck with effect of ending with 200$ after 4 hours. And now the rich guy gets so frustrated seeing this he starts to shout at the whole casino: "i hate those bums that walk in, beg for the money and then walk out with my money"...

I hope the analogy will make it clear for depositors how it works and why they are loosing peds ;).

Falagor
:bandit:
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SunnyS said:
Your analogy is awesome!!!!... please point me to the casino where you can win without putting in money!
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Sorry, I refuse to accept the analogy of a casino

here is why ...every single mob in the Hydra event dropped myultiple high MU items

xX Gently Xx said:
I would like to gather the info from this Hydra event:

So if you know, please post the Hydra number (1,2,3..) soc that looted them and the items inside, and i will update the first post.

I am very curious to how generous has FPC been during this event :)

Hydras:

1. Art of War: Chronicle shin guards (M), Omegaton A106, Tiger footguards (F),


2. Manticore: turret

[YOUTUBE]Z0RObm98G0A[/YOUTUBE]


3. (22.08.10) Universe United: Chronicle Gloves (F), adjusted V1, 2 Tiger parts

[YOUTUBE]yc3WdGqXWWw[/YOUTUBE]


4. ( )Warants: Camo Arms Jungle Stalker, Tiger Arm Guards (M), Tiger Foot Guards (F), Omegaton A106

[YOUTUBE]g0I6uIlnZD8[/YOUTUBE]
[YOUTUBE]UVx2tXGL81I[/YOUTUBE]


5. (25.08.10) Warants: Tiger foot guards (M), Starkhov AS-129, Survival EnBlade-10, Omegaton A106

[YOUTUBE]kQHqW2cui1E[/YOUTUBE]


6. (25.08.10) Art of War: A106, Tiger Foot Guards (M), Chronicle Shin Guards (F)

[YOUTUBE]XFZkYD81-JI[/YOUTUBE]


7.(29.08.10) Warants: drowned)

[YOUTUBE]LYpeWmi8jl8[/YOUTUBE]

8. (01.09.10) Art of War: A106, Tiger Foot Guards (F), Combat Enblade 10

[YOUTUBE]OePg_q64RKw[/YOUTUBE]

[youtube]BVpcbmJR7K0[/youtube]


9. (05:09:10) Art of War: camo arms jungle stalker, tiger gloves F


10. Charbydis (05.09.10) Art of War: Meckel & Loch ML-35,Marber Tango-Type Plasma Annihilator, Shadow foot guards (M), Tiger Shins guards (F)

[YOUTUBE]t7HqOUcf4-Y[/YOUTUBE]
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Mercury said:
........... I still love this game and have had a great 2010. Won WoF as USA Captain, Eomon ATH 180k value, won 124k in Naomi's contest, bought a Proteron LA with Skippie, and just won 2 LA's in Mayhem with UU. A great year by any standard.
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What about Stormers record

Stormer said:
Aurli Devastator 38767 PED! :yay:



and a few days ago a little Scipulor Prowler at 12643 PED! :wtg:



No items but lots of oil to buy items :wise:
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Stormer said:
I removed the dust from some old pictures in my classical collection and here is some juicy reminders! :yay:
I drew the line at 2000 ped and above only, and all solo loots! :wise:

Stormer's Uberloots! :ahh:

1. 93.072 PED - Lysterium Stone
2. 43.316 PED - Aurli Soldier
3. 38.767 PED - Aurli Devastator
4. 37.861 PED - Falxangius Young
5. 32.470 PED - Second Entity Generation 02
6. 31.067 PED - Aurli Weak
7. 25.899 PED - Neconu Stalker
8. 25.843 PED - Second Entity Generation 01
9. 24.242 PED - Scipulor Old
10. 15.479 PED - Aurli Strong
11. 13.981 PED - Falxangius Young
12. 12.634 PED - Scipulor Prowler
13. 12.579 PED - Araneatrox Young (no pic)
14. 9.006 PED - Aurli Strong
15. 8.444 PED - Atrox Young (no pic)
16. 3.955 PED - Falxangius Young
17. 3.404 PED - Aurli Strong
18. 3.388 PED - Warrior Generation 06
19. 2.957 PED - Allophyl Young
20. 2.941 PED - Falxangius Young
21. 2.905 PED - Aurli Strong
22. 2.409 PED - Hogglo Young
23. 2.335 PED - Second Entity Generation 01
24. 2.012 PED - Drone Generation 02
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Still Casno :scratch2:

Skills, hunting the right mobs, and a bit of knowledge about the game do matter (and should be) :) This is where the high end Ubers are in adventegious position, and rightly so!

.... and also I do think MA favors newbies and high end players (Hydra event is a classic example)
 
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m0rr0w2 said:
In life i go hunt deer and it dont cost me nothing because I dont see one or number 2 I shoot one and get meself a deer. So in real life I am getting alot for little but in EU you get nothing for alot lol.

FRED
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You mean you poach a deer. Because if your doing it for free you must be poaching since the tickets cost money. $40 in my area for a doe ticket.
 
Infinity01 said:
Skills, hunting the right mobs, and a bit of knowledge about the game do matter (and should be) :) This is where the high end Ubers are in adventegious position, and rightly so!
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Well i DO agree that skills, hunting right mobs and knwoledge matter - in fact done right brings profit (but of course only from other players not from MA).
Knowing that overal return in long term is 90% TT value you can do lots of stupid things (like crafting TT stuff that uses materials with high markup) and few smart stuff (that also may aquire skills).

Example: high uber that has invested in his skills in crafting attachments and invested (or was lucky to loot) in MA-109 bp:
if you count:
- residue markup at 105%
- that MA-109 will sell at 123%.
Knowing your overal TT will be 90% back and you have 33% chance of succes (skills + small QR on that bp)
you get 117.91% average profit counted long term.
(I have made myself a nice sheet in excel to know what items on my low level to craft that may bring me at least 95% return counting in markup on both product and materials - this is smart thing to do. Of course it is long term and one day i may get 75% and another 120%. Thing is - it evens out sooner or later).
So basicly uber comes with 100k peds, buys mats and res, goes to crafting machine and after crafting time he should have stuff worth 117k peds. Only thing left to do is to sell those ;). This profit includs that MA took 10% of the TT value of materials he used but he is still ahead due to residue changed into valuable product. And please ask few uber MA-109 crafters how much they return value differs from the one i predict.

Why 90% TT? Becasue there are already many players who log their runs over years (posting them here) and this oscilates around 90% TT return. My personal logs (mayby not that long as others but still) show this too but you do not have to belive me - i know it works out for me, mayby for you there are other algorithms ;).

Infinity01 said:
.... and also I do think MA favors newbies and high end players (Hydra event is a classic example)
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So knowing this you should not deposit and instead just convince your sister/brother (i am not even thinkign about creating fake account ;)) to make new avatar and let him play - they soon should get profit :).


But all of this has NOTHING to do with thing that non-depositors are stealing money from depositors. If person is smarter (or less lazy) then he is doing right things to profit. Of course there are luckers but anyone can be lucky guy (non- or depositor).
If a depositor is stupid enought to craft OA-101 (matts have markup but product is neraly TT) hopeing he will get ATH but instead he is loosing it all - then it is all but his fault - not non-depositors.

Falagor
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Infinity01 said:
Sorry, I refuse to accept the analogy of a casino

here is why ...every single mob in the Hydra event dropped myultiple high MU items





What about Stormers record






Still Casno :scratch2:

Skills, hunting the right mobs, and a bit of knowledge about the game do matter (and should be) :) This is where the high end Ubers are in adventegious position, and rightly so!

.... and also I do think MA favors newbies and high end players (Hydra event is a classic example)
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So your trouble is that Ubers have a better chance for good loot than you, and noobs get lucky sometimes.

Well... Ubers have a better chance at good loot because they're bought Uber gear, have uber skills, and cycle uber ammounts of PED. There have also been events for low and mid level players to get good loot as well (Merry Mayhem being the latest... some nice armore sets given away there in cat1 and 2). So please... if you want to whine about not getting loot like the uber players then go buy gear like theirs and start cycling massive amounts of ped like most of them do, I'm sure you'll start seeing some nice ATH's that will bring you back from the massive negative numbers you were in due to the same poor loot as everyone else gets.

Noobs get lucky the same as anyone else, but guess what? Their loot isn't magically better than yours or mine and eventually we all even out at 90% TT returns unless we get VERY lucky.
 
Infinity01 said:
I'll state a mere fact.

Even a country can go bankrupt when the resouces are sucked up by the people at the bottom (in real life i'm not against it ..people do need universal healthcare for example), and at the top (corrupt corporations) with the help of corrupt regulators (corrupt politicians).....

Honestly, i see similar picture here in EU, not so much by the people at the bottom though !
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I cannot be asked to read the whole thread N' all that but I gotta respond to this.

It's not a case of people at the bottom that are sucking up rescources.. it's the people at the TOP that cause the shit in the first place.. did you know that certain popular rescource suppliers actually limit their supply to keep prices high??

There is alot more wrong with your statement but i'm a very busy man today.
 
Zorander said:
So your trouble is that Ubers have a better chance for good loot than you, and noobs get lucky sometimes.

Well... Ubers have a better chance at good loot because they're bought Uber gear, have uber skills, and cycle uber ammounts of PED. There have also been events for low and mid level players to get good loot as well (Merry Mayhem being the latest... some nice armore sets given away there in cat1 and 2). So please... if you want to whine about not getting loot like the uber players then go buy gear like theirs and start cycling massive amounts of ped like most of them do, I'm sure you'll start seeing some nice ATH's that will bring you back from the massive negative numbers you were in due to the same poor loot as everyone else gets.

Noobs get lucky the same as anyone else, but guess what? Their loot isn't magically better than yours or mine and eventually we all even out at 90% TT returns unless we get VERY lucky.
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Did i say this:

Skills, hunting the right mobs, and a bit of knowledge about the game do matter (and should be) :)
This is where the high end Ubers are in adventegious position, and rightly so!

So i'm not disagreeing with you!.....This whole post is directed to ppl who consider this game like a Casiono......yes there are some randomness, and also aspects of Dynamic loot

But those are not enough to explain Hydra Event...that's my point
 
Hellraizer said:
did you know that certain popular rescource suppliers actually limit their supply to keep prices high??

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Well, i'm not sure anything wrong with it!
I do hold stuff for long time if i think the price is too low and likely to go up!
 
Infinity01 said:
Well, i'm not sure anything wrong with it!
I do hold stuff for long time if i think the price is too low and likely to go up!
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agree :)
nothing wrong with doing that. Can't call that a bad thing to do.
Smart market manipulation (maybe?). It's only a smart thing to do if you know the price will likely go up right?
 
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