Hi,
how funny!
Cool. Lets have a look at the picture:
- We see a tracker record of a player. The first entry is from July 03, 210, 1155 PED, a HoF.
- We don't see more. Is it a record with a limited time span (from July 210 and newer), is this possible at all in the tracker? Dunno. Is this an avatar that had to change his name due to some unknown reason and was playing quite long before? Dunno. Is this an avatar that had initially set his tracker thingy to "hide me" and has changed then? Dunno.
All I see is that his hunting is similar to mine, when I feel lucky. And I started 2005.
- Let's just assume that this guy started sometimes before July 2010, due to no other information available.
- He started with a quite nice loot (no idea how many critters he had to kill before, it took me nearly 2 years to get my first hunting global, and other ppl here are reporting even nastier times).
- Withdrawing it would have given him a nice profit, enough to fetch Mrs. Schneider to a quite impressive diner. He did not. Poor Mrs. Schneider ...
- Instead we see a quite global-less phase during late 2010, and in Jan 2011. Those poor phases are all but unknown to each of us, right?
- This guy comes back to the tracker in Feb '11, and globals on very different mobs then before. Obviously the 1155 PED from his initial HoF wasn't by far enough to gear up sufficiently & skill up meanwhile, so he must have deposited.
- If he didn't pause for some months, additional deposits would be required to pay the skilling from Aug '10 to Feb '11.
- Anyway, if he actually was a nOOb in July '10, he must have beefed up his HoF money with quite some deposits to advance in a way that is clearly shown by the tracker data.
- And now this guy scored big. After at least 9 months of participation, maybe even ways more. And the mob is whining, as usually.
- Btw., Mr. Schneider has made some crafting globals, 662 PED. Why don't we see 'em in both pictures? Just cut off? Why? Did the date of those not fit the picture? Dunno. Shady.
In short:
We have a nOOb (maybe, not sure), that started with a quite nice HoF. What is predicted for such a case?
90% of the people who get these noob-loots withdraw all the PEDs and don't come back.
Yes, exactly, Mr. Schneider must have been one of the remaining 10%, for sure. But what sense makes such a statement like this here then, when he's among the most few ones actually to be in these 10% anyways (btw, I doubt the 10% from my own, and my Soc mates experience, any data available to proof this crude assumption? Plz share with us!)?
Just doesn't make any sense, is just another rant, another whining, another attack to the lucky one.
Do we really need such in the forum?
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And I'm not attacking the poster of the above quote - what he wrote is common sense as we see in many posts)
The picts clearly show the exact opposite of what is claimed here. This nOOb-or-not did not withdraw after an initial-or-not HoF. This nOOb-or-not came back to the tracker a few months later with a substantial rise in the difficulty of the hunted mobs, that wouldn't be possible with his initial-or-not HoF - heavy skilling and/ or continuous depositing is to assume.
Mr. Schneider then scored big. Gratz, Mr. Schneider! You have earned it!
I had preferred if it had been me that received that 60K Igni, but I'm not jealous about - the next one might be mine. Use it wisely, Mr. Schneider, feel hugged in congratulations, and keep ground contact! You'll be doing well then!
But I'm sad about the greedy, whining attitude in this forum when it comes to loot.
Whenever someone but you yourself is lucky it's a reason to start a revolt-in-a-box? Over and over using such hand-made argumentations that are clearly most far-fetched for anybody having more IQ but shoe size? Your not ashamed doing such?
Let's have a look at it:
- Jane 'ThenOOb' Smith scores big in her first year, 50K PED. Extremely rarely such comes in the try-out/ sweating phase, the vast majority of participants receiving even a small global will undeniably be depositors. Too few "spins of the wheel" possible just from selling sweat. But, for sure, such may have occurred, a few times, during the PE/ EU life time, just as a unavoidable result of a random loot generation. And then blown up beyond all proportion using the well known mechanics of legend building and urban myths.
No matter, Jane 'ThenOOb' Smith scored big now. Quite soon. Wouldn't she freak out, wouldn't she decide that this is the best game ever, wouldn't she spent all the won money for going for the next, maybe even bigger HoF? Or for an ATH, even?
She just had learned that such is possible. Would she really withdraw, stop playing and waste her chance for another, maybe even bigger, "lucky strike", in the euphoria any big loot gives?
No doubt, chances that Jane 'ThenOOb' Smith will withdraw are very low.
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- Now let's have a look at Joe 'RandomUber' RiffRaff, that just scored 50K PED, too. It's not this much money for him, since his gear alone coasted a multiple of this, not even to mention the skills he ate. Maybe this HoF doubled the value of his PED card?
For Joe it would make sense to withdraw. It's no big money for him, he's used to receive big loots every day, mining with high amps, and hunting high stake mobs all day long. Due to the game mechanics he'd get ways more MU compared to Jane anyways, and these 50K would just be seen as a "present with an invitation to withdraw".
Joe 'RandomUber' RiffRaff will withdraw it, for sure.
The theory of nOObs withdrawing quickly, and Ubers reinvesting, is IMHO just BS. It's exactly the other way around, IMHO.
This tracker stuff is from hell, IMHO. It's mostly used for witch hunts, rants, bitching, slurring, belittling, attacking and expelling participants that had the luck the greedy moron didn't have.
As such they are a clear violence of quite a lot of chapters in the different EULA's and related documents, IMHO. Not even to talk of the grabbing of data meant to be seen in a certain program (EU) only, using automated 3rd party software, which is again the different EULA's and related documents, IMHO.
Opt-out, as some trackers offer, isn't a way. Find all trackers that are tracking you, using illegal 3rd party automated software to OCR the in game chat, to opt out - have fun! ...
Trackers would be acceptable when:
- MA would provide a basic source itself, as a feed in any approbate way.
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- And the participants would have the game option to chose like "show my name in trackers" or "show 'An Avatar' instead of my name in trackers", in the client loader. Team creation should have a check mark for this, too. Only "show team name" or show "A team"
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- Any Trackers then would have a reliable source, and wouldn't need to handle personal data security issues of their own, taking quite a risk to be sued for high sums, and wouldn't need to use illegal 3rd party software to read the chat.
Never forget - these tracker data are not reliable. Not just only one friend of mine swears that the globals of several months, or random globals have vanished, or have been missed. Participants can "opt-out". Mistakes can happen.
I offer my avatar: "Xandra 'Madmaiden' Xandottir"
Analyze me using tracker data, tell me what you are thinking of me. Tell me what you found out using the tracker data.
No results? This would be what I expect. Any links of my data welcome. And any explanation.
For me, the trackers suck. Not only that they're at the very edge of legality, and infamously unreliably, they hurt my privacy. What I do with my avatar, Xandra, is up to MA, and to me. It's not meant to be grabbed by 3rd party bots.
Maybe one day, Tracker admins, I'd have the money? Maybe one day somebody will sue you for distributing private data? In my country it's clearly a crime what you do. Enjoy your Ad income, meanwhile ...
I'll post a proposition about checking tracking soon, working on it. The current trackers are just unreliable, and maybe even illegal.
Have fun!
