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    From our perspective it is not as important if MA survives or not.

    The important thing is that under whatever new or old management, Entropia Universe will survive for many more years.
    Oink oink oink !!!

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    They'll just reorganize AGAIN...
    2003 and onward The game was ready for launch come 2003, but one of the owners (Prosper Capital - Skandia) failed to live up to their promise of delivering 10 million Swedish Crowns [13], [14], leaving the board with no other option than to declare bankruptcy [15]. A number of senior managers saw plenty of potential in the system, and ended up forming a new company, MindArk PE AB which bought the operation of Project Entropia from the now bankrupt MindArk PE. Many of the existing MindArk employees chose to stay, and joined the new company [16] [17].
    Put on your conspiracy hats if you want...
    Part of the writing on the wall almost says the whole SDS thing was really just one big re-organization that may well have been done on purpose, at least by some of those involved...

    Wall Street ain't got nothing on insider trading related to EU. That's one reason shares are technically not suppossed to be held by folks in the US according to an old statement by MA... but that never stopped em from letting some in the US get shares anyways.

    http://www.mindark.com/press/press-r...rospekt_en.pdf
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    Its been a few months since there has been a thread questioning the continued existance of EU. For this fact alone, I think EU is doing better and has a longer life ahead of it than it did 6 months ago.

    They have been doing plenty to keep us interested in recent updates and I believe even brought back some older players. I think it is harder to completly abandon EU than other games, since you are not required to keep up a monthly deposit. In other games, you decide to quit and stop your monthly deposit, then you lose everything you character had in items and skills, so your less likely to return since you have to start over from scratch. In EU, you can stop depositing and either leave everything with your character of sell of some % of what you have and cash out, then all you have to do is log in every now and then to keep your character. This returning to keep your avatar results in you learning about recent updates which might spur your interest to deposit and play the game again.
    Even when people sell everything their avatar has, they get sucked back in. How many have said I've made a huge mistake by selling off my skills?(another one sucked back into EU, that didn't think they would be when they left).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier Target View Post
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    Even when people sell everything their avatar has, they get sucked back in. How many have said I've made a huge mistake by selling off my skills?(another one sucked back into EU, that didn't think they would be when they left).
    Yep. Been there, done that. I still hate myself a little. If I had a whip I would physically assault myself and then turn myself over to the law enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermesh View Post
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    Wall Street ain't got nothing on insider trading related to EU. That's one reason shares are technically not suppossed to be held by folks in the US according to an old statement by MA... but that never stopped em from letting some in the US get shares anyways.

    http://www.mindark.com/press/press-r...rospekt_en.pdf
    Mastermesh, if you can't resist to post your half-cooked conspiracy theories (actually you are crossing over to defamation way to often) then at least do us the favor and do some basic research on the topic.

    I really enjoy a good conspiracy theory but if you post the same uneducated nonsense again and again it just makes you look stupid (and i am sure you ain't).

    Using statements that are factually wrong ('technically not suppossed to be held by folks in the US') to sneak in comments like 'Wall Street ain't got nothing on insider trading related to EU.' is just very very bad style.

    Please invest two minutes to research about the law your are talking about and it's exemptions before you abuse the fact that an US company holds some MA shares to support your wild claims again. Again, because it is not the first time you doing it like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychopathic View Post
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    If Rome could fall, then we all can. And if Sparta could fall, then we're pretty much fucked.
    This may be the best 'the sky is falling' line in the history of the interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoreau View Post
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    This may be the best 'the sky is falling' line in the history of the interwebs.
    I know. I'm pretty awesome. Probably one of the awesomenest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leona View Post
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    Using statements that are factually wrong ('technically not suppossed to be held by folks in the US')
    read the pdf...
    Because of restrictions in the securities legislation of the United States of America, Australia, Canada and Japan no shares will be offered to persons who have registered adresses or are domiciled in any of those countries.
    That is a document Mindark itself created. Elsewhere online is a list of the folks that owned shares about a year after that, and at least two of them on the list were 'domiciled there.'

    If my take on it is 'factually wrong' no one at Mindark has said so yet, even when I ASKED MINDARK on Entropia Forum about this issue.

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    I don't see any dark prospects for MA, many RL countries have much greater chances to collapse than EU. Discontents may grow but most are hooked too tight to not just swallow and carry on ("to adapt", they call it). Am I happy with everything I see in EU? Not close. Do I see myself in EU ten years from now? Definitely.

    Also I agree that EU is getting better lately. Given a choice I'd still prefer EU'2006, but EU'2011 is much better than 2010 and way much better than 2009.

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    Its not a casino, they provide a plattform where you are free to login, you then decide how to interact with the plattform, and the plattform will return you results differently , based on how you choose to interact
    We don't admit it's a casino because we prefer to see ourselves (and, more importantly, be seen) as entrepreneurs, not gamblers. But in fact, it's the casino nature of EU that secures it's future. People always will gamble. Rome fell, Sparta fell, but people still play dice like thousands years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermesh View Post
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    read the pdf... Page 2, left column...

    That is a document Mindark itself created. Elsewhere online is a list of the folks that owned shares about a year after that, and at least two of them on the list were 'domiciled there.'
    To make it short: If a non US company goes public and doesn't want to go through the hassle to register with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (because share sales are not focused at the US market anyway) they often include those passages in the prospectus. It then means they won't sale the shares in the US public.

    A share not registered for public sale with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission can however still be sold to US citizens and institutions due to several exceptions.

    Happy to PM you with more details if you want. However, i am by no means an expert but a two minute internet research would have led you to the same conclusion. So there is nothing shady with one or two US companies holding some MA shares.

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    If my take on it is 'factually wrong' no one at Mindark has said so yet, even when I ASKED MINDARK on Entropia Forum about this issue.
    There is no issue in the first place. I don't think it is MindArks job to pay someone to answer your questions about internal matters that you could have solved with two minutes internet research.

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