How Real/Safe in entropia?

Talk about avoiding the question... Jimmy posed a very valid question and good comments... no matter what profession you have.

What I really can say about hunt with my "uber" experience of total 10k hits in hunt?
 
Mindark is a single company in a foreign country (for most of us). Companies can go out of business or change their practices with no warning. Mindark gives no guarantee that they will be in business when you go to withdraw* the money you deposited. Treat this like a high-risk investment. This means do not deposit money that you can't afford to lose.

Additionally, if you're investing to "play", then don't expect to get any significant withdrawal when you quit. This is a pay-to-play game, not a free-to-play one, and the system is designed so that you will lose money on every "fun" activity (hunting, mining, etc). You can make money by trading, and if you approach it as you would a business, you can make enough to fund your game play. I recommend that you thoroughly explore the game and the economy before depositing significant amount of money. The cases of people withdrawing thousands of dollars are mostly cases of where people deposited even more previously, so don't expect to deposit $1000 now, play (hunt, mine, craft), and in a year withdraw $1000.

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*The word withdraw seems to be misspelled very frequently on this forum. The verb is present withdraw; past withdrew; past participle withdrawn. The noun is withdrawal. Withdrawl is not a word.
 
*The word withdraw seems to be misspelled very frequently on this forum. The verb is present withdraw; past withdrew; past participle withdrawn. The noun is withdrawal. Withdrawl is not a word.

Sorry, if it was my mistake, English isn't my primary.
 
On-Topic now

How safe is entropia? Very safe from what I can see atm...
Mindark seem set on actually making the game better now..
But like with anything new being added, old things devalue..
happens irl too u know...
 
there was small chance for me to hit azz

And still, we're not gambling? Is everything determined or not?

[fyi: I'm not against it being gambling; I gamble for a living]

I like to ask another thing. Is going over a street gambling?

Yes.

But it is not my fault when people exist who decide to put on a blindfold and earplugs and cross the street with the most traffic in their towns and thus making something a gamble which is per se none.

You incorrectly imply all people who have died or been injured crossing the road have done so at their own fault. Many of them, for the reasons you've already given, yes. All of them, no.

Well yes you are right, doing a single looting event is gambling.

Then EU is gambling.

Let's play a hypothetical game. We toss a fair coin. I give you $6 if it comes up heads, you give me $4 if it comes up tails. We can play as many times as you like. I am gambling? Yes. Are you gambling? Yes. If we play a million times we can determine your ROI to a very small degree of uncertainty. But yes, we are still gambling.

That was casino type gambling. Now we play a new game. We toss a fair coin. If it comes up heads, you run 100m and pay me a dollar for every second it takes you. If it comes up tails, I run 100m and pay you a dollar for every second it takes me. Now, we are skill gambling. We are still gambling, but we can influence our results based on how fast we can run. This is more like EU. We can't predict the outcome of any single looting event, but we can influence how the sum of our looting events turn out.
 
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And still, we're not gambling? Is everything determined or not?

You mean azz hit? I did get TT return. All was correct, MU - that's the different thing and doesn't belong to the system. Now, think about it (I wrote same words in ATH post) - all time before I was avoiding that azz. And... ATH and... azz? (smile.jpg) There was my fault.

[fyi: I'm not against it being gambling; I gamble for a living]

Poker? If so, by the way - it isn't gambling. It's skills.
 
You mean azz hit? I did get TT return. All was correct, MU - that's the different thing and doesn't belong to the system. Now, think about it (I wrote same words in ATH post) - all time before I was avoiding that azz. And... ATH and... azz? (smile.jpg) There was my fault.

OK, so you say we are not gambling on TT. I remain unconvinced (the noob ATHs for instance), but anyway, if there is a chance which you do not have full control over that you can get your 67k HoF on tt food and a chance you can get it on say Niks and get a nice MU, then I say there's still a gambling element involved.

Poker? If so, by the way - it isn't gambling. It's skills.

Ah, then we just argue definitions. Poker is gambling where skill influences your returns.

And, no, I gave up poker many years ago. It didn't suit my mindset all that well, returns are too volatile for my liking. And it's a bit of a lonely battle. And competition got better ;) These days I bet on sports in a little 3-man company. It suits me better :)
 
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OK, so you say we are not gambling on TT. I remain unconvinced (the noob ATHs for instance), but anyway, if there is a chance which you do not have full control over that you can get your 67k HoF on tt food and a chance you can get it on say Niks and get a nice MU, then I say there's still a gambling element involved.

Ok, ok. But MU isn't PART of the system. And EU system is really dynamic™ and complex. Where dynamic doesn't mean random - but balance of stuff and avas actions. But TT returns working like atomic clock. Ok, strange atomic clock. They can stay. But then they run. (well, let's close eyes for bugs like Jash AP fuckup, it's system error)

Let's say that: it's like blackbox, for most of the people it's all gambling. But when MA shows principles of system to the authorities - it wasn't. (or how it was done, i don't know)
 
Ok, ok. But MU isn't PART of the system. And EU system is really dynamic™ and complex.
The Markup/Auction/Shops/Trading part to it is more like the poker tables than the slot machine part of the casino. It's all a lot of bluffing, and you got to know when to hold em, know when to walk away, know when to run...

Some players will win a little, most will lose a lot, and the house always has the upper hand. That's why there's an auction fee, taxes, etc.
 
I can't disagree more with the people that think their money is more safe in entropia then in their banks.

Yes many banks and investment banks have gone down in flames the last 5 years, but many of them has also been bailed out by goverments.

MA doesnt have the same safety net, and many hundreds and thousands of companies go bankrupt each day globally. And if I'm not mistaken MA has gone bankrupt once or twice in its history?


That being said, as long as MA doesnt get into financial trouble, entropia is a safe game when it comes to your money.
 
That being said, as long as MA doesnt get into financial trouble, entropia is a safe game when it comes to your money.

I think that's the answer the OP was really looking for. Bet he didn't expect the thread to take the direction it did hehe. But we have all had an interesting chat.
 
Yes you get taxed on deposits. There's a 10% processing fee and sometimes your provider will charge an additional fee for foreign transactions.
 
Yes you get taxed on deposits. There's a 10% processing fee and sometimes your provider will charge an additional fee for foreign transactions.

Uhm what? :scratch2:
 
Yes you get taxed on deposits. There's a 10% processing fee and sometimes your provider will charge an additional fee for foreign transactions.

You do? My last deposit had a 3.5% fee and that was because I chose the quick credit card option rather than bank transfer.
 
You do? My last deposit had a 3.5% fee and that was because I chose the quick credit card option rather than bank transfer.
I used Ukash for the first time recently, and avoided any fees at all, MA converted my GBP into USD. Usually I use a card tho', with a 3.5% fee and a fee from my bank for foreign currency.
 
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