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    -Bemo-
    Aw, you guys are hurting my feelings! Temporal Destinies Society has 81 members... of which only two spend their time in PVP Space trying to loot people who bring lootable items with them.

    The last time I left Calypso in my Quad (which doesn't even have a gun), there were at least 50 blue triangles (ships) all around the screen - they can't all be Temporal Destinies~! I certainly am NOT a pirate.

    There is an easy way to fix pirates in general. Take a mothership and use the TP at the space station. Do not take lootable items with you into PVP Space. Then NO ONE will be able to pirate anybody.

    Now I will go off to a corner and cry, because stereotypes and double standards are alive and well in EU. Well, not really, but I wish people could be nice. Can't we all just hold hands and sing "Kumbaya"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikaile View Post
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    Aw, you guys are hurting my feelings! Temporal Destinies Society has 81 members... of which only two spend their time in PVP Space trying to loot people who bring lootable items with them.

    The last time I left Calypso in my Quad (which doesn't even have a gun), there were at least 50 blue triangles (ships) all around the screen - they can't all be Temporal Destinies~! I certainly am NOT a pirate.

    There is an easy way to fix pirates in general. Take a mothership and use the TP at the space station. Do not take lootable items with you into PVP Space. Then NO ONE will be able to pirate anybody.

    Now I will go off to a corner and cry, because stereotypes and double standards are alive and well in EU. Well, not really, but I wish people could be nice. Can't we all just hold hands and sing "Kumbaya"?
    The problem is that Temporal Destinies are associated with pirates and from what you have just said you dont seem to have a problem with them. So therefore players do not trust you to move their loot, when their is other MF who are outspoken against pirates.

    I am not saying you are a pirate or this is anyway trap or what ever it just my point of view. Gl with you service. At least some noobs will benfit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikaile View Post
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    * snip* Can't we all just hold hands and sing "Kumbaya"?
    Well yes we can. But that will be while using the Normandie or other reputable MS for TRUE SAFE Transport

    -Bemo-

    P.S Good luck on your pirat.... errmm I mean transport services

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    I think its borderline off-topic the debate going on here. Perception can be altered and changed easily dependent on how we view something. Agree to disagree?

    I personally like this event and in all honesty it is up to the owner of the MS to decide whether the pirates in their soc will affect their reputation or not. They are the ones primarily affected by this and if they have no problem with it, then we shouldn't criticize. Its not the only mothership around.

    EDIT: 8 out of 10 threads on this forum always contain some kind of argument.

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    I personally like this event and in all honesty it is up to the owner of the MS to decide whether the pirates in their soc will affect their reputation or not. They are the ones primarily affected by this and if they have no problem with it, then we shouldn't criticize. Its not the only mothership around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narfi View Post
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    It is a blatant conflict of interest...
    I promote a number of motherships services ...
    Speaking of conflict of interest, isn't your complaining about this ship service quite the conflict as well?

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    I think its borderline off-topic the debate going on here.
    I personally agree, however, I'm not going to mod them for now. Frankly I know quite a number of MS owners are associated via soc connections w/ PVP folk. Some may or may not spend time in space.

    It's simple folks, if she offers this service and they trap/loot someone, the service will be dead and their long-term reputation will be damaged forever. Period.

    So stop the attacks about this please, and let them promote this service as they wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narfi
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    (you can ask sakuba if I have in any way held a grudge or damaged his business after the way I was treated by your leadership)
    Narfis attitude towards me when I was trading on Rocktropia was nothing less then honest, forthright and supportive.

    Sadly, I can not say the same for my dubiousness of him at the time, because of the situation that occurred with the Pirates in our Society.

    However, as a member of the upper echelon of Temporal Destinies, I must ratify that our policies on PVPers/Pirates has not changed. Nor can I see it changing in the near future.

    Temporal Destinies as a Society is geared towards helping and advising its members as well as newer Participants to the Entropia Experience. It is not our policy to tell our members how they can or can not spend or earn their PED. It is also our policy not to tell a member what trade/career/profession they choose to take. The choice is entirely theirs alone. The only hard ruling we have for those who choose to become PVPers/Pirates is that under no circumstances can they ply their trade on another Temproal Destinies Member.

    I, personally, put Pvpers and Pirates in the same basket. Similarly with PVP4 Zones and PVP Space. Both Regions are lootable PVP areas and a part of the Game Mechanics.

    With the PVP4 Zones you have the PVPers/Pirates hanging out in the fringes waiting for someone to HOF/Global on a certain creature/mob/rescource and knowing the most likely location for it to be, then teleporting to its aproximate location. This is done in the hope of gaining a large amont of loot cheaply and easily at someone elses expense. The secondary method used here is by happing upon someone within the region.

    Within SPace you have them slinking around the Space Stations, awaiting some hapless victim to suddenly appear and charge off into Lootable Space. Alternatively, there is the possibility that they will come across their victims somewhere out in the vastness of spac itself. With the upcoming new mobs there is a possibility they will also gain the knowledge of what locations people may be in space as well giveing them and advantage there as well. But this will also help[ get them out of the choke points of Planetary Space Stations.

    Overall I see little difference between PVP4 Zones on Planets or the PVP Area in Space. Many Societies have members who spend a lot of time in the PVP4 atras on Planets but you never hear of anyone crying foul because of this. Even I have helped kill others in these areas and loot them, even tho I only make cannon fodder.

    In addition I have found it a huge advantage to have two experienced Space Combat Pilots that I have been able to use as escorts when transporting large amounts from planet to planet. As the new primary owner of the MS Bismarck, I am sure I will find more use for their particular talents in the future. Our association with PVPers/Pirates is transparent ... it is obvious we have an association..... can the same be said for other groups or Societies ?

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    Back on Topic

    Those of you who wish to take advantage of this affer are welcomed to come to Twin Peaks and ask to be added to the guest list. I will hopefully have one or two other people there to help out. Each person who decides to join us will be added to a Team and when we approach the first departure time of 00:00 MA I will go up to the MS Bismarck and add those Team Members to the Guest List. Once everyone has been added to the Guest List I will do two Summons. The first will be approximately five minutes before departure, allowing a short period for passnegers to get rid of any stackables they do not wish to take. At approximately three minutes before departure I will send a second and final summons for passengers.

    This three minutes is to allow passengers to accept the summons and log off if they have chosen to take stackables/lootable items/material with them. Those who choose to log off will have the following options available to them:

    1. Stay tuned into Atlas Haven Radio for updates of when the MS Bismarck has arrived safely at it destination.
    2. Add me in Skype so you can be added to the Bismarck Channel. (Sakuba or Milela_Sakuba_Wilnfe)
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    3. Use Our Ventrilo Server.
    Hostname or IP: ny2.ugt-servers.com
    Port Number: 25178
    Password: N/A
    Channel: Bismarck Passengers and Crew.

    This is an open Ventrilo and does not require that you need to be a member of Temporal Destinies to drop by any time. This is only a 25 man vent at this stage and I hope it will be large enough for this event/celebration.

    The route we will take will be from Calypso to Arcadia then Rocktropia and finally Next Island before returning to Calypso. We will stop at each Planets Space Port for about one hour before summoning again to continue our journey. This stop over period is to allow those who wish to stay to do so and any who wish to join us to aslo do so if the seating is available. If you choose to remain on any planet please let your Team Leader know.

    At each Space Station you will either need to use the Stations Teleporter to go down to the Planet if you wish or fly down in a vehicle. If you are carrying lootables it is strongly advised you use the Space Station Teleporter. We will not be responsible for your lootable/stackables if you shooce to fly down to the planet. Ny using the Station Teleporter you will incurr a 7 ped fee enforced by Mindark. Flying down to a planet will incurr a 2 ped fee also enforced by Mindark. Please keep these two factors in mind.

    N.B.
    I choose to use the Space Stations to dock at, as I strongly encourage logging if you carry stackables/lootables and the use of the Space Station Teleporters is a 200% guarantee of not losing your gear to Pirates/PVPers once the MS is docked at the station.

    Disclaimer: If passengers can not or choose not to use one of the three above metioned options available you will need to log off for a minimum of ten minutes to allow time for the MS Bismarck to safely reach its destination. We are in no way responsible or liable for your stackables/lootables if you do not use these options made available to you for this event/celebration.

    Milela "Sakuba" Wilnfe.

    EDIT:The above mentioned route will be taken twice to give as many people as possible the opprtunity to join us and experience warp speed and space. Atlas Haven Radio may not be available for the entire day but they will stay with us for as long as feasible.
    Last edited by Sakuba; 03-10-2012 at 12:31.

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    Traveled aboard the Bismark today, it has greatly improved my sex life! Would travel again A+++++


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