A video everyone must watch...

OMG! 7000 birds died!!!

I feel so ashamed of the economic system that allows me to lament about those poor birds right here.
 
Mass production and consumption is the model for better capitalism..

Well I've ready everything and in fact Stave makes some valid points, and some of the posters in this thread have to..

Now as for those who think capitalism is a good idea, well it is and isn't and the best place to start with is none other than in the game itself..

Yes, that's right.. it's a game, but it's a real cash enconomy game..

I'm goint go point out one thing... Players in this game are ignorant of how a planetary system works.. or for that matter how the economy in game is supposed to work..

Some players need a healthy dose of reality.. so get a lad bullet and get ready to bite down n it hard.. caue what I am about to say, is in fact and does go back to what the OP is saying..

Capitalism is a good idea.. provided that evey one can afford everything.. The reality is in this game is that many people can't afford to play.. Oh sure, some people would blame the platform developer, or the planet Partner for these issues but I will state this.. Only half the problem is with those two factions..

The other half comes from the player base itself..

That's it complete bullshit trying to capitalize on the recent anti-capitalism sentament started by a bunch of idiots in a park that can't even tell the difference between free market capitalism and the social market capitalism that they live in?

Is it bullshit? Are you and every other player that is ignorant of the fact that you're trying to get rich? Oh sure you can call this a casino, but then the reality is.. some of the players in game don't want others to join in on the fun..

Fun.. That's something everyone should have.. not just a select few..

But it's the double edge sword of capitalism in game that is hurting the gamers themselves.. and for good reason..

First off a vast majority of the players are on of course Calypso. They are the Calypso-centrrric" palayers who think that Calypso is the end all planet for being a major trading hub.. But then Trading is part of the game, and importing and exporting goods is part of that issue..

The problem is.. it's not MA's fault for the higher prices...it's partially the players.. and they got the whole system in reverse... Capitalism or in this place, Mass production and Mass consumption are the key ffactors here..

The issue though is while folks on Calypso think the world revolves around them it does not.. There are 4 other world that can have trade.. and better opporitunity if players become competitive in the mass market..

The point is.. players affect half the game.. the other half are the PP and MA itself..

But if you blame MA and the PP's totally then you're ignorant of why the player base isn't growing..

This game revolves around capitalism.. it's all about getting rich quickly isn't it? Not really.. Eveeryone in game looks at the short term.. and wants their money now.. but there are some of what you call "Anti-capitalists" who look in the long term, but we use Capitalism to help drive the economy and not detract from it..

For example.. why is there Ospra on Calypso when it shouldn't be.. Answer.. the players are too lazy to help develop the market on Calyps.. But then those who do still have the system backwards..

Mass Production and mass consumption (or as you call it capitalism.. is in fact all about being competitive.. those who are compeitive succeed, those who are not, won't..

I'm going to sum it up quick.. if you make 10 guns and then try to sell them at a higher price, people will not buy.. but rather it whould be the exact oipposite when you are compeititive.. you should sell at a lower price making it affordable to play for the new or fairly new player..

But greed, corruption and Monopolies exist in this game, they keep players from being able to play...

And then they too take materials and resources off of worlds and try to capitalize on the greed to get them rich..

And that is where the problem arises.. people's greed in game are causing the games downfall

In roder to be competitive some players have to reduce their cost.. sure they don't make as much but they definitely make if they sell more products..

Better yet, Let this little cartoon that was written in 1954, explain it.. It's probably the best example of how the game should work.


And then ask yourself.. are you allowing other new players (who are potential investors in the game.. )to play

Sure start with MA, and the PP's blame them, but only 50% of the way...

But then if you want to blame your poor loot, look at yourself in the mirror and and ask yourself.. How can I improve your loot?

It's not MA's issue to entice players into the game, it's the players.. and a good experience means a better chance of people staying..

I was a customer service representative once.. and this was told to me.. If you give a person a good experience, then odds are you'll get an additional 2 players. but if you give them a bad one then expect to lose the player you gave the bad experience to, and then add 10 more people.. cause by word of Mouth.. people's bad experiences are the ones that prevent this..

So in the bottom line you want to get rich quick? Get real.. you wont.. Getting rich takes time.. sure some can spend more than otehrs, but if done properly the Mass production/Consumption Model actually works..

But it ahs to work both direction.. not one way.. that's the other issue at the moment.. All the materials from four differnt worlds are flowing onto one playet, namely Calypso where they are heavily inflated to supposedly cover "Auction fees' that are "Expensive" the reality is.. it's the greed talking.. You just want your ped..

But sales is another item.. more sales and volume at lower costs means you don't make as much as many who are greedy but more sles at a lower price means you actually make more profit..

But some of that profit has to be reinvested.. into prodcuts like weapons ammofaps and yes armor..

If you have overpriced items, can anyone afford them? Only if they're stupid ordesperate..

In close I have to say this.. Never say it's totally the platform developer's fault. Never say that it's totally the Planet Partners either.. you're part of the problem.. but by doing thrings right you can be part of a solution to your own returns be it mining crafting or hunting..

Now then.. if you want to argue the logic of this.. go ahead and do so.. Cause Capitalsim does work when done properly.. when it doesn't don't blame MA totally on this issue.. You're prat of the issue too. you get too greedy, then don't complain about the bad loot.. Okay?

Benjamin Ben Coyote
a.k.a. The Blind Sniper
 
Actually Ben, I'm not trying to get rich, I'm happy right where I am :). There is no need to get rich, you can enjoy life and have fun far below that line. Unless of coarse your addicted to material possesions. But that's the individuals problem, and has nothing to do with any market system. Greed will exist no matter what system, and their will always be people who fall victim to it and blame the system.
 
There is no reason Capitalism should be harmful to anything or anyone if it is done correct but the way things are in RL and in game it's just "THE WORLD IS FLAT" Attitude. Really I'm above it. One day we will all say What grand children. The human race has peeked nature has taken back it's rule and no one can have kids. SO BE IT!
I wonder why there was ever usery laws?? I wonder what would happen if the Fed reserve started loaning money to banks at a neg intrest rate. and the banks loaned it out to people at 0% interest.
You know there was someone that had this idea along time ago they cruxifide him too. what ever..
Spartacus the Original in History. He didn't believe in Slavery. He fought against it. He was Cruxifide also.. Well Rome Fell.. so shall this one. Insanity=Trying the same thing over and over and expecting Different results. Maybe Tesla was Crazy.. For loving his fellow man.. Pfftt over it..
And People wonder why I hate everyone Equally..And why i'm such a AHOLE..
That is all.. Peace 1 love.. have a nice day. Please Drive through.
 
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There is no reason Capitalism should be harmful to anything or anyone if it is done correct but the way things are in RL and in game it's just "THE WORLD IS FLAT" Attitude. Really I'm above it. One day we will all say What grand children. The human race has peeked nature has taken back it's rule and no one can have kids. SO BE IT!
I wonder why there was ever usery laws?? I wonder what would happen if the Fed reserve started loaning money to banks at a neg intrest rate. and the banks loaned it out to people at 0% interest.
You know there was someone that had this idea along time ago they cruxifide him too. what ever..
Spartacus the Original in History. He didn't believe in Slavery. He fought against it. He was Cruxifide also.. Well Rome Fell.. so shall this one. Insanity=Trying the same thing over and over and expecting Different results. Maybe Tesla was Crazy.. For loving his fellow man.. Pfftt over it..
And People wonder why I hate everyone Equally..And why i'm such a AHOLE..
That is all.. Peace 1 love.. have a nice day. Please Drive through.

Except that your looking in the wrong place. You look at the surface of the problem and think that's the cause, when the cause is deeper.
I take it from your post your a bit pissed about the housing collapse in the US, I can't blame you for that, if I was American I'd be pissed about that too.
Except here are some problems. The federal reserve has absolutly noting to do with the goverment, it's privatly owned.
Now, what caused the housing collapse? Too many people buying homes who couldn't afford to. Why did they buy homes that they couldn't afford? Because of a goverment that wanted votes, so they went to the banks and said, "if you give mortgages at low interest to first time home owners, we will insure those mortgages.". Oh shit, so now the banks have to give mortgages to people they know damn well can't afford it. Is it really any wonder they bet against themselves? If someone forces you to do something that you know is a bad idea, wont you bet against yourself?
So you see, the problem started when goverment got involved in private buisness. Ever notice how goverments will help companies out to "protect jobs" or for "economic stability"? Even in Canada where political donations are caped these still happen. These are not capitalism, these are socialism.
 
Now, what caused the housing collapse? Too many people buying homes who couldn't afford to. Why did they buy homes that they couldn't afford? Because of a goverment that wanted votes, so they went to the banks and said, "if you give mortgages at low interest to first time home owners, we will insure those mortgages.". Oh shit, so now the banks have to give mortgages to people they know damn well can't afford it.

I am so happy that there are people out there who know and understand this!

:yay::shower::yay:
 
Except that your looking in the wrong place. You look at the surface of the problem and think that's the cause, when the cause is deeper.
I take it from your post your a bit pissed about the housing collapse in the US, I can't blame you for that, if I was American I'd be pissed about that too.
Except here are some problems. The federal reserve has absolutly noting to do with the goverment, it's privatly owned.
Now, what caused the housing collapse? Too many people buying homes who couldn't afford to. Why did they buy homes that they couldn't afford? Because of a goverment that wanted votes, so they went to the banks and said, "if you give mortgages at low interest to first time home owners, we will insure those mortgages.". Oh shit, so now the banks have to give mortgages to people they know damn well can't afford it. Is it really any wonder they bet against themselves? If someone forces you to do something that you know is a bad idea, wont you bet against yourself?
So you see, the problem started when goverment got involved in private buisness. Ever notice how goverments will help companies out to "protect jobs" or for "economic stability"? Even in Canada where political donations are caped these still happen. These are not capitalism, these are socialism.
I never said anything about housing. I'm talking Economy. OLD WORLD what we use now"Insanity" vs Something new and out of the box."Not the world is Flat" lets Cruxify someone.
Beyond Pissed..At everyone. For just being Phkn Human.. Peace 1 love.. exucuse me while I remove my head..
blah blah blah
Notice: I didn't exclude myself.
 
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I never said anything about housing. I'm talking Economy. OLD WORLD what we use now"Insanity" vs Something new and out of the box."Not the world is Flat" lets Cruxify someone.

But it was the housing market that was a major contributor to the down turn in the economy. You want something out of the box, then look up libertarian.
 
I am so happy that there are people out there who know and understand this!

:yay::shower::yay:
Funny how no one looks at usury laws anymore and what they was for.. I think there should be Predatory lending laws. As well as Predatory Business practice laws. I Have nothing against success. I have problems with success at the harm of others. Thats Predatory "THE WOLD IS FLAT ECONOMICS/SOCIALISM/COMMUNITY/CAPITALISM/Whatever other kind of box you want to toss it into" We was made for more than this. We are more than this.
 
But it was the housing market that was a major contributor to the down turn in the economy. You want something out of the box, then look up libertarian.
No the down turn was the money industry wanting self regulation. Hows that for Pandora's box. When it is given to them they run it into the closest brick wall.. that was GENIUS!! They made money YAY!!:scratch2:
Oh yeah lets not forget Money is Free speech and Corporations are people too. So they should have rights. Don't even put me in a political Box. This is a Economic Discussion.
 
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This is what gets threads locked..what was you saying?

Exposing inappropriate behavior teaches people to behave in a civil way in the future. Take note that I did not neg rep you back although you would have earned it.

:shower:
 
Contrary to common belief, the worst environmental atrocities are actually being committed in developing countries, most of which you would probably not classify as capitalistic.
 
Exposing inappropriate behavior teaches people to behave in a civil way in the future. Take note that I did not neg rep you back although you would have earned it.

:shower:
Notice I didn't say anything about how short sited your view was and Old School. "The earth is Flat type". Since you want to drag it out and cruxify someone.:scratch2: Maybe burn to the steak type? I like Steak & Taterz.:beerchug:
 
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Contrary to common belief, the worst environmental atrocities are actually being committed in developing countries, most of which you would probably not classify as capitalistic.
I agree Boxes are for the closed minded.:popcorn:
 
The issue though is while folks on Calypso think the world revolves around them it does not.. There are 4 other world that can have trade.. and better opporitunity if players become competitive in the mass market..

Erm.. if the vast majority of players are on Calypso, and if they(all of the Players on Calypso) were all to take their bat home and depo no longer, how long would the game last?
 
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