Which mob can give which minimum global?

Hi there,

New functionality means new investigations to be done.

With the new global level differentiation per mob, that means that each mob could have a different global threshold, perhaps even different maturities of a mob have different levels...

I've seen several globals below 50 PED pass by already, so time to start collecting information.
I hope we'll be able to do some data mining from EntropiaLife as well...

For now I've added an additional column to the Creature chart on Entropedia. If that turns out to be unsuitable (e.g. because of mob level sub-differentiation within one mob type) we'll figure out something else.

Let's start gathering the info
I've started by going through the EL-mobcharts, but I don't know how long the individual globals remain visible there...plus it is rather labour intensve to go though all mobs there...maybe someone can assist there by helping me query the EL data base somehow...

-= Reserved for overview =-

Lowest globals observed per mob so far...

Argonaut Young 25 PED
Argonaut Adult 26 PED
Argonaut Scout 26 PED
Argonaut Gatherer 26 PED
Argonaut Guardian 29 PED
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apparent threshold 25 PED

Carabok Puny 10 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Daikiba Mature 11 PED
Daikiba Old 11 PED
Daikiba Guardian 10 PED
Daikiba Provider 10 PED
Daikiba Dominant 10 PED
Daikiba Alpha 12 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Exarosaur Young 10 PED
Exarosaur Mature 10 PED
Exarosaur Guardian 10 PED
Exarosaur Dominant 10 PED
Exarosaur Old Alpha 10 PED
Exarosaur Prowler 10 PED
Exarosaur Stalker 15 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Feran Young 10 PED
Feran Guardian 13 PED
Feran Dominant 10 PED
Feran Alpha 10 PED
Feran Old Alpha 10 PED
Feran Prowler 10 PED
Feran Stalker 11 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Foul Young 10 PED
Foul Adult 10 PED
Foul Gatherer 10 PED
Foul Guardian 12 PED
Foul Scavenger 14 PED
Foul Scout 26 PED
Foul Raider 14 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Gallard 14 PED
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apparent threshold 14 PED

Hadraada Young 10 PED
Hadraada Mature 20 PED
Hadraada Old 41 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Halix Young 10 PED
Halix Mature 10 PED
Halix Provider 10 PED
Halix Dominant 10 PED
Halix Alpha 10 PED
Halix Old Alpha 10 PED
Halix Stalker 10 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

JamRaider Generation 01 10 PED
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lowest global on EL is 51 PED though


Jori Mature 10 PED
Jori Old 10 PED
Jori Guardian 10 PED
Jori Dominant 12 PED
Jori Old Alpha 10 PED
Jori Alpha 11 PED
Jori Prowler 11 PED
Jori Stalker 12 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Kerberos Young 10 PED
Kerberos Mature 10 PED
Kerberos Old 10 PED
Kerberos Provider 10 PED
Kerberos Dominant 29 PED
Kerberos Guardian 25 PED
Kerberos Alpha 26 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Nusul Young 32 PED
Nusul Mature 38 PED
Nusul Old 30 PED
Nusul Provider 48 PED
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apparent threshold 30 PED

Oratan Thug 10 PED
Oratan Vandal 42 PED
Oratan Bandit 20 PED
Oratan Thief 30 PED
Oratan Slasher Thug 31 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Oro Young 11 PED
Oro Mature 10 PED
Oro Old 10 PED
Oro Provider 14 PED
Oro Guardian 10 PED
Oro Dominant 11 PED
Oro Alpha 21 PED
Oro Old Alpha 21 PED
Oro Prowler 20 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Ostelok Guardian 10 PED
Ostelok Dominant 14 PED
Ostelok Alpha 10 PED
Ostelok Old Alpha 10 PED
Ostelok Prowler 13 PED
Ostelok Stalker 11 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Plumatergus Young 10 PED
Plumatergus Mature 10 PED
Plumatergus Old 10 PED
Plumatergus Provider 10 PED
Plumatergus Guardian 11 PED
Plumatergus Dominant 19 PED
Plumatergus Old Alpha 12 PED
Plumatergus Alpha 10 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

RipperSnapper Young 10 PED
RipperSnapper Mature 10 PED
RipperSnapper Guardian 11 PED
RipperSnapper Dominant 10 PED
RipperSnapper Alpha 10 PED
RipperSnapper Old Alpha 10 PED
RipperSnapper Prowler 10 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Tiarak Young 10 PED
Tiarak Mature 10 PED
Tiarak Old 21 PED
Tiarak Provider 21 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

Zadul Young 10 PED
Zadul Mature 10 PED
Zadul Old 10 PED
Zadul Provider 26 PED
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apparent threshold 10 PED

IvoL said:

Lowest globals observed per mob so far...

Argonaut Scout 42 PED
Foul Young 13 PED

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I am sure i seen 11 ped Foul Adult.

saw globals below 50 ped from mobs like:

Foul, Shinkiba, Kerberos, Daikiba, Argonaut,

Team "Find FREESTYLE At SOC Terminal!!" killed a creature (Kerberos Provider) with a value of 11 PED!

I got the 27ped hit on the argo

I also got a (what I think was just over 20ped) May have been 19.

So i think argo is 20 or 25ped for a global.

25 argo young
29 argo guardian

I think its based on the lowest maturity now, then each maturity with increase it ever so slightly.

Kinda wierd tho, i got a 27 pedder on an argo young but didnt global.... So im not sure how it works

==update==

It'll of course take some more time before a clear picture appears...but it's starting to look like it might be one threshold level per mob, irrespective of mob-level...
And it seems as if the new absolute minimum is 10 PED.

I'll keep updating these mob levels every now and then by glancing at the EL-mobcharts, meanwhile, if there's a mob I missed, pls let me know!

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Argonaut young- 29/33

Got a 11 ped from Argo but was not a global

Oh, and I think I saw a 45 pedder Feffoid Bandit I think

here you go

got a 27ped argo gatherer

Cheers all!

il said:

here you go

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Wow Gratz!
Not the lowest though...

bettlejus said:

Argonaut young- 29/33

Got a 11 ped from Argo but was not a global

Oh, and I think I saw a 45 pedder Feffoid Bandit I think

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That means that the Argo threshold must be at least 12 PED...to my knowledge the lowest global on an Argo so far is ~double that but any info is better than no info!

I couldn't find any globals below 50 on EL...will check every now and then...

Pedra said:

got a 27ped argo gatherer

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Added to the list.

==update==

Added new levels, mostly from EL, some from posts above, some from the other post on this topic.

Also added the apparent threshold...not in all cases it is as credible, but quite a few now have (almost) the same minimum level for many maturities...from what's been observed so far.
Eventually this is the number that'd be added to the minimum global level column on the wiki.

I think that is the best place from which to correlate planet-related patterns...

Keep 'em coming!

==update==

updated again, am I missing any mobs altogether? let me know!

Nice. Thanks for pulling this together.

Nusul Old 30 ped from yesterday

I dunno if this helps, but due to trying for solo globals on all mobs, I was hoping a few difficult ones I could snag. I got a 48 ped ripper, which is funny as its not all that low.

However I can confirm that as of yesterday, an 11 ped drop was not enough to global on either Snablesnot-Male Stalker, Snarksnot stalker and 12 ped drop (and also 22 ped drop) was not enough on Spider Bomber.

So RipperSnapper OA at level 9 or so can global, but not Snable stalker at level 9? and not Spider bomber gen 10 at level 7. That pissed me off! lol

As I mentioned in my thread, I think the only ones with reduced global threshold so far are ones that you can do Iron Missions (or Arkadian equivalent) on currently. I've not seen Gibnib, Fugabarba, Chirpy, Diripi, Pupugi, Igni global yet. Perhaps young to old Snablesnot, Snarksnot and Cornundos might. I should think Merp young would but haven't seen anything.

I think there are 2 thresholds or maybe only one (the avatar level) that kills the mob, was killing nusul young while mining there and saw low global s while I got also a few loot s worth more then that global but no global for me.
That happened also on Tiarak so ...?

MisterX said:

I think there are 2 thresholds or maybe only one (the avatar level) that kills the mob, was killing nusul young while mining there and saw low global s while I got also a few loot s worth more then that global but no global for me.
That happened also on Tiarak so ...?

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not sure if its level of avatar, although its not a bad thought. One of my disciples who is level 12 laser pistoleer (hit) didn't get a global from an 11 ped Argo =x you'd think he was low enough to get one.

ive recieved the following from an argo young,

12, 14, 17, 19, 21, 22,24

and the lowest global i have seen is 25 on argo...there for, for a argo young lowest global should be 25 ped.

Just had a 10ped Foul Young.

==update==

Added new, even lower levels

Still no Feffs below 50 tho...

Any other input / info?

right just to mix things up...

I've just had an Oro Prowler of 16 or so peds, that didn't global I've a screenie of it. So I think its safe to say that different maturities give different thresholds.

I had an 11 Ped Daikiba Mature!

11 ped HoF






Just in case you wonder: I could not find it on the HoF list

Lardinho said:

right just to mix things up...

I've just had an Oro Prowler of 16 or so peds, that didn't global I've a screenie of it. So I think its safe to say that different maturities give different thresholds.

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Do you think so?
I'm more and more inclined to believe the opposite
Going through several iterations of updating the list in the second post, by checking EntropiaLife, I couldn't help but notice in not one but several mobs that over time they all crept to the same level...as if the chances of getting a 10 ped global on an Oro Prowler are smaller than for a Young...or the sheer number of kills is much lower...or...

I've not update the second post for a few days, and probably will not do so in the coming days either - IRL quite busy at the moment.
However, what would be a tremendous help in this whole issue is if we would be able to do more complex queries on the LE db...that is assuming the data doesn't get flushed as soon as it is no longer visible on the mob-tracker-screen (or whatever the exact name of the screen is)...If for instance we could query all the globals below 50 for a particular mob...or maybe even for all mobs...that would make the process of finding the threshold (or thresholds) much quicker and easier...

skeezer said:

I had an 11 Ped Daikiba Mature!

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updated...and Gratz!

Nisha said:

Just in case you wonder: I could not find it on the HoF list

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by the time you took the screenie it would have been knocked off the bottom by the following 2 loots. I was wondering when we'd see a sub 50 HoF and this is a beauty, not even 48 or 45 but 11 !!!

Epic.

==update==

Added new, even lower levels

I stand by my earlier statement: there is one threshold per mob, it is not maturity-dependant!

Any mobs that should also be in this list?