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Old EU loot cycle and my tool

Futurama said:
That's a quote from a "famous" computer expert/programmer/game designer.


I'm really wondering where do you get these kind of drugs you are on, since you are still alive after so many years of drug abuse. :eyecrazy: Must be some new high tech experimental LSD or something. :eyecrazy:
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Never said I'm famous. And my and was a question what you mean by the quote, and i never said I'm an expert or programmer either. A game designer i am though.
 
Legion said:
This is not a theory, it was a theory a few years ago. This is a fact.
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:rolleyes: Everyone has their own theory on how loot works. No shame in that. The bolded part is what pisses me off. Put up or shut up Legion.

I offered a few years ago when you were spouting your shit to help bankroll you. Since you have it all figured out, how much do you need and what return can I expect on my investment? Also, i'll require all of your mining logs posted on PCF...i'm sure everyone would like to watch an Entropia Master at work! :laugh:
 
It's really not that difficult to understand that someone who allegedly knows how the system works is going to catch flak when his tracker looks like this:

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You say you haven't had time to play recently, but tracker data goes back to 2008. I'm sorry, but no one who "has it figured out" has 28k worth of hunting globals in 5 years.

I also like how you claim your system predicted exactly when and where the 330k ATH would be, yet, amazingly, you didn't go for it yourself. You should really stop making threads like this.
 
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Steve_saber said:
:rolleyes: Everyone has their own theory on how loot works. No shame in that. The bolded part is what pisses me off. Put up or shut up Legion.

I offered a few years ago when you were spouting your shit to help bankroll you. Since you have it all figured out, how much do you need and what return can I expect on my investment? Also, i'll require all of your mining logs posted on PCF...i'm sure everyone would like to watch an Entropia Master at work! :laugh:
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Back then i don't think i had this system. And the bolded part is fact due to i have been using this system for a few years and never has an uber popped up outside the areas and hofs and globals are very easily tracked when watching the chatlog as they scroll by and never ever are they outside.

RobBuona said:
It's really not that difficult to understand that someone who allegedly knows how the system works is going to catch flak when his tracker looks like this:

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You say you haven't had time to play recently, but tracker data goes back to 2008. I'm sorry, but no one who "has it figured out" has 28k worth of hunting globals in 5 years.

I also like how you claim your system predicted exactly when and where the 330k ATH would be, yet, amazingly, you didn't go for it yourself. You should really stop making threads like this.
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And again another one who apparently cant read full posts.
 
Legion said:
And again another one who apparently cant read full posts.
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I read the bit about your company. But no one who isn't a billionaire doesn't have 10 minutes to pop in game to claim their 330k PED.
 
Legion said:
Back then i don't think i had this system. And the bolded part is fact due to i have been using this system for a few years and never has an uber popped up outside the areas and hofs and globals are very easily tracked when watching the chatlog as they scroll by and never ever are they outside.
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:lolup:
As an on paper miner you are legend. As a real EU miner you're all fucking talk and no action man. I could line up miners to fucking laugh at you...but we both know they already are....:laugh:

Offer on the table....put up or shut up. :laugh:

Got my visa in my hand looking for the profit dude!! Think about it...you get a bank roll, we both make peds and you get to prove to the masses you're not simply an attention seeking fuck nut...win win win!! :)
 
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RobBuona said:
I read the bit about your company. But no one who isn't a billionaire doesn't have 10 minutes to pop in game to claim their 330k PED.
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You have probably never been running your own company, you basically work 16 hours a day for a few years before it get's off the ground.

Steve_saber said:
:lolup:
As an on paper miner you are legend. As a real EU miner you're all fucking talk and no action man. I could line up miners to fucking laugh at you...but we both know they already are....:laugh:

Offer on the table....put up or shut up. :laugh:

Got my visa in my hand looking for the profit dude!! Think about it...you get a bank roll, we both make peds and you get to prove to the masses you're not simply an attention seeking fuck nut...win win win!! :)
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I never said this was about getting hofs or ubers or getting rich, i just shown how the system used to work and how to make it easier to break even.
 
Ahh, the flatline that is legion :)

all porn aside, there is much to be said. Proving or disproving Legion may be as easy as proving or disproving the existence of an omnipotent god.

But please people, try this out. There are still people around (like me ex soc leader) that thinks perception matters. He is so succesfull (at depositing and whining).
But whatever; maybe you have more luck? :D
 
Ah .... the perception pigeons :)
 
System still contains a factor of hot and cold areas, how they shift on the other hand is not yet solved , atleast not by me, although i have my ideas.

A hot area tend to not give many no looter/fragments, and a cold one is full of em.

Problem is, im not sure its location based as in "coords on a map" its leaning more towards a server or even a single spawn to be hot or cold.

The system dont see the map as humans do, so why should it be a sinuspulse across a map.

I think a spawn is filled like a slot machine, play it long enough and you get more stable results.

If you do bad in a spawn, dont leave, log and pickup the hunt later.

Again, its hard to get more loot from the system than you have put in, so having a good idea on how it works dont auto make you rich, just less whining.
 
ermik said:
System still contains a factor of hot and cold areas, how they shift on the other hand is not yet solved , atleast not by me, although i have my ideas.

A hot area tend to not give many no looter/fragments, and a cold one is full of em.

Problem is, im not sure its location based as in "coords on a map" its leaning more towards a server or even a single spawn to be hot or cold.

The system dont see the map as humans do, so why should it be a sinuspulse across a map.

I think a spawn is filled like a slot machine, play it long enough and you get more stable results.

If you do bad in a spawn, dont leave, log and pickup the hunt later.

Again, its hard to get more loot from the system than you have put in, so having a good idea on how it works dont auto make you rich, just less whining.
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As for hot area that is true what you write.
And i'm not sure it's locationbased either fully, my system is just a system that displays it the best or easiest way. It could very well be some sort of sinuspuls, in this form a sinusoidal one.
Yep, spawn is sort of like a slotmachine. The problem is that it respawns so you can't empty it and get all the good stuff but you might just keep plugging away and just get the crap even though
there is good stuff in the spawn. (this is to me where the skillgains come in to direct you in the right direction and yes i know not many believe in that)

As for the last line, yes exactly it's very hard to do well, even though you might know how the system works but it can help you a bit. The good thing is that MA has it quite well balanced in this sense so even if you run around completely randomly you do at least somewhat ok. Knowing the system can help improve a bit on that part though.

And thanks for a good post among all the other closeminded people who has no clue what they are talking about :D
 
Legion said:
As for hot area that is true what you write.
And i'm not sure it's locationbased either fully, my system is just a system that displays it the best or easiest way. It could very well be some sort of sinuspuls, in this form a sinusoidal one.
Yep, spawn is sort of like a slotmachine. The problem is that it respawns so you can't empty it and get all the good stuff but you might just keep plugging away and just get the crap even though
there is good stuff in the spawn. (this is to me where the skillgains come in to direct you in the right direction and yes i know not many believe in that)

As for the last line, yes exactly it's very hard to do well, even though you might know how the system works but it can help you a bit. The good thing is that MA has it quite well balanced in this sense so even if you run around completely randomly you do at least somewhat ok. Knowing the system can help improve a bit on that part though.

And thanks for a good post among all the other closeminded people who has no clue what they are talking about :D
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What you are presenting here requires a lot of server resources to maintain. This means it would need to be calculated in real time and updated, then compared to the loot events. Doing it the way you say would be a waste of processing power. It is very improbable it is done the way you present simply because it is inefficient.
 
PaulCrystal said:
What you are presenting here requires a lot of server resources to maintain. This means it would need to be calculated in real time and updated, then compared to the loot events. Doing it the way you say would be a waste of processing power. It is very improbable it is done the way you present simply because it is inefficient.
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Ok again, my tool is only a representation of the system to best visualize it. How it actually works in code is a totally different matter. And how do you know it would need a lot of resources (since you have no idea on how it actually is implemented)? And also that might be a reason why we get quite massive loot lag when we are in the correct area.

My guess is that as long as nobody is actually in proximity to any mobs or ore then they are not updated so the only time anything actually get's calculated on the servers is when someone is close to the area and mobs are visible.
 
People need to use reversed engineering here. It's obvious system use something that
creates "waves" that have decent and bad loot.
Otherwise loot had been linear.
As Legion mention, this is to show it in a visual way, not necessarily how it works
from a system p.o.v, but the effect is similar to this.
My theory (since I'm too lazy to prove it to be anything else than a theory, I call it that :D)
has same effect but looks totaly different if I should show it in a visual way... ;)
(Ok I could give some small parts of it I guess. It's based on layers and moves
in certain directions and effects spawnclusters on it's way.)

So next one to disagree, show us your theory, or facts how you believe it works. :)
 
Legion said:
And how do you know it would need a lot of resources
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it wouldnt require many resources if one uses MA's gold standard in computing, the hamster, simply have your map of entropia stuck to a hamster wheel, for each layer of the loot timer one has a different hamster with a different gearing on the wheel, its quite simple really.
but more seriously, if this was how it worked MA would of sent their crack commando team to rendition and kill you after posting this information because you are breaking their carefully crafted loot system, since you appear to still be alive i think that counts as proof that this is not how the loot system works.
 
FallenAngel said:
it wouldnt require many resources if one uses MA's gold standard in computing, the hamster, simply have your map of entropia stuck to a hamster wheel, for each layer of the loot timer one has a different hamster with a different gearing on the wheel, its quite simple really.
but more seriously, if this was how it worked MA would of sent their crack commando team to rendition and kill you after posting this information because you are breaking their carefully crafted loot system, since you appear to still be alive i think that counts as proof that this is not how the loot system works.
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I laughed at the hamsters :D And as i wrote, MA already changed it before i posted this so it was no longer working and that was why i posted it. If it was still working just as this then i would not had posted it.
 
Sorry, saw the thread title, and then this ....

Angel O2 Mercer said:
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... couldn't read the rest as the tears of laughter was blurring the screen.

I'm gussing it was the same old story Legion's been peddling for about 8 years tho?
 
MA is well known of changing systems after someone discover how they work. I remeber they changed whole mining when i published this :

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So your theory even if correct, after this thread no longer can be used :(
 
Steve_saber said:
:lolup:
As an on paper miner you are legend. As a real EU miner you're all fucking talk and no action man. I could line up miners to fucking laugh at you...but we both know they already are....:laugh:

Offer on the table....put up or shut up. :laugh:

Got my visa in my hand looking for the profit dude!! Think about it...you get a bank roll, we both make peds and you get to prove to the masses you're not simply an attention seeking fuck nut...win win win!! :)
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maybe so but lets not forget Legions got his cock in his!!:lolup:
 
shoti said:
MA is well known of changing systems after someone discover how they work. I remeber they changed whole mining when i published this :




So your theory even if correct, after this thread no longer can be used :(
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Wasnt usable when i posted about it as MA had already changed it.
 
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