Question: How much do you deposit?

How much do you deposit in a typical month in USD?

  • Zero...zilch...nada!

    Votes: 90 35.4%
  • $10-50

    Votes: 37 14.6%
  • $50-100

    Votes: 29 11.4%
  • $100-200

    Votes: 35 13.8%
  • $200-500

    Votes: 28 11.0%
  • $500-1000

    Votes: 11 4.3%
  • >$1000

    Votes: 24 9.4%

  • Total voters
    254
I have stopped playing and hopefully I won't come back.
A few 100k ped lost, rude support and a MA who has to compensate for the withdrawals nondepoers do by fucking up my returns...
Dont ever fucking say a nondepoer is important and dont be proud ffs...
Theres only one person the nondepoer has to thank for having EU and its the depositor. Gl playing this without us
 
Maybe ur just pissed...

It's the smug attitude some of them get because they think they are great for "out-witting" a bunch of fucking video-game junkies. Wow. If that's the criteria people use to determine ones status, then imagine what they do in real life when they out-wit someone who isn't running around killing stuff in a RCE because they enjoy the thrill and will spend money on it.

...cuz your being outwitted? :laugh: Just trying to keep it a little light so dont get pissed at me now...Personally I have more money than wits or time to spend dicking around with trying to be a nondepositor and I realized that I could start having REAL fun by depositing....and the only RL compromise is the time I spend on here and not doing something in RL...

I have stopped playing and hopefully I won't come back.
A few 100k ped lost, rude support and a MA who has to compensate for the withdrawals nondepoers do by fucking up my returns...
Dont ever fucking say a nondepoer is important and dont be proud ffs...
Theres only one person the nondepoer has to thank for having EU and its the depositor. Gl playing this without us

...I could support a clause in EULA that prevented you from EVER withdrawing more than you deposited in real dollars...and an unlimited withdrawal release once you had deposited a certain LARGE amount...

45-35...depositors to nondepositors...56% to 44%...

Brick
 
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I feel the same scorn towards depositors that think they are deserving of some sort of higher godlike level of respect because they "fund the game" and pay MA's salaries.

When I FIRST started EU, (Project Entropia), the main marketing ploy of the game was that it was FREE to play, and you can EXTRACT real life money from the game. It blew my mind. There is nothing wrong with playing with this purpose. It is extremely difficult and can be very rewarding. But again, it does not justify a smug attitude.

I'm sure many depo'ers are making more profit than many non depo'ers, via land areas, smart gameplay, and all the other investment opportunities. So you should be just as mad at them for "stealing" from your loot pool. Even though I can see where you're coming from... don't criminalize withdrawing money from the game unless you're going to do it universally. Otherwise it's pure hypocrisy.

At first glance the entire business model of this game seems unsustainable. But somehow PE/EU has lasted this long... Quite an achievement if you ask me. :beerchug:

...I could support a clause in EULA that prevented you from EVER withdrawing more than you deposited in real dollars...and an unlimited withdrawal release once you had deposited a certain LARGE amount...

I would lose all respect for EU if they did this. Because the lack of this clause is exactly what made this game so special to me in the first place. It's the only prominent game of it's kind.

At the end of the day it will always be a "dynamic" casino. Question is, are you willing to risk the loss of PED to be part of this virtual universe, or not?

The game would be nothing without the players... so much respect to all of you, regardless of how much you've deposited, for making my EU experience that much better...
 
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It doesnt matter in what way this game was advertised, the result would still be no game without depositors.
A person spending own real money in here va a person who hasnt risked anything is not the same for me. I wouldnt mind him succeed.
But to read nondepoers complain about bad returns, bugs, long withdrawal times is annoying.
They have nothing to complain about
 
...play at a high level and have NEVER deposited...

...and on that note...who in here is the highest cycling nondepositor on EL? Anyone wanna guesstimate or point a finger or fess up?:laugh:

Brick

well,i have over 1 million in tracker,i am level 111 or 112 naturally,and i have deposited 200 or 300 dollar about 8 years ago,kinda forgot exact numbers
that was my only depo and i have withdrawn multiple multiple amounts of that
maybe thats the reason i never get an uberloot,dont know
 
...I could support a clause in EULA that prevented you from EVER withdrawing more than you deposited in real dollars...and an unlimited withdrawal release once you had deposited a certain LARGE amount...

45-35...depositors to nondepositors...56% to 44%...

Brick

That was the stupidest shit so far
You clearly did not think that through, you just wanted to be rude to me personally i guess
 
They have invested in this game. They've invested their time. Time spent doing much less "fun" activities. When I invest my time in something, of course I will be upset if I feel I'm being cheated out of a proper reward.

I see where you're coming from, though. It's unfortunate that these non depo'ers are not contributing to the stimulation of the economy. You could say they're doing the opposite. But that is the idea behind EU... it's a "free casino". We all know that going in... I don't think it's right to criminalize them.
 
So...

That was the stupidest shit so far

...two of the biggest nondeposit flamers dislike the idea of creating the system such that nondepositors could not withdraw, farm to withdraw, etc....interesting...your vernacular in multiple posts speaks for itself and frankly just saying I dont like nondepositors and Im not gonna play isnt a solution at all...so whats your solution cuz simply complaining is the, how you so eloquently put it?..."the stupidest shit so far"....

You clearly did not think that through, you just wanted to be rude to me personally i guess

...I dont know what the heck your talking about being rude in my previous post...the above post is not rude either...merely calling you out as a whiner...and I think EVERYTHING through before I post it...maybe its not clear as discussing in threads like this can be...but its thought out...my post is pretty clearly given in the third person plural not you singularly...and the idea is merely that...and the best argument you have against it is...thats the stupidest shit so far....nice assertion...your debate skills are unsurpassed...

Brick
 
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That was the stupidest shit so far
You clearly did not think that through, you just wanted to be rude to me personally i guess

AND, ive told many highlvl sweaters its a great achievment and an impressive amount of dedication.
That is not my what im talking about, thats not theissue, im only adressing the nondepositing.
 
So sick of the people that don't play for shit going on about being a non-depositor. You're not "awesome" and you're not better than anyone else. I posit that depositors are 10x more important, and are better people with better lives.

Do you brag about going to a casino and just sitting in the free buffet? Yeah you probably do. Or maybe you do gamble a little, and when you lose, you still lie and tell your friends that you won. You know the type of head-case I am talking about, right?

Go stand in twins some more and do nothing except come on the forum and talk about this game.

In fact I bet every one of you depo'ed at some point. Those that did depo, even once, and claim to be a non-depositor, are sick, or weak, or insecure. (Not futurama, at least he admits it)

Seriously...are you that insecure that you have to mention it every fucking thread???

i can understand you are surprised by the results of the poll, but it is only 81 people that have voted at the time of writing, how representative is that really? and how many are not being honest?
that said i really dont see many (any?) people behaving in the way that you say, am i really missing something?
i do notice a big difference now and from when i first started the game, those few that could succeed were admired and did not fear speaking about how they managed to succeed in this game, and i think that has changed in the last couple of years i dont see many people being open about success because of the way some people react.
i think it is important to remember how MA markets this game, challenging one to "beat" it, and the message it sends to players if it truly is so that nobody can succeed or win, and if they do they are to be despised.
because lets be straight about one thing, without the RCE and the possibility to sell gear or skills and withdraw what you won or have left of your deposits, then this game offers nothing, nothing at all that sets it apart from all the other choices out there.
so i can understand you could be frustrated, and this is not the first time this subject has come up and caused such anger, but if it is really the case that people feel that nobody is allowed to succeed, or only if one falls into some criteria measured in how much one has spent in the game, then i really wonder what the attraction would be for people to actually play at all.
 
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...two of the biggest nondeposit flamers dislike the idea of creating the system such that nondepositors could not withdraw, farm to withdraw, etc....interesting...your vernacular in multiple posts speaks for itself and frankly just saying I dont like nondepositors and Im not gonna play isnt a solution at all...so whats your solution cuz simply complaining is the, how you so eloquently put it?..."the stupidest shit so far"....



...I dont know what the heck your talking about being rude in my previous post...the above post is not rude either...merely calling you out as a whiner...and I think EVERYTHING through before I post it...maybe its not clear as discussing in threads like this can be...but its thought out...and the idea is merely that...and the best argument you have against it is...thats the stupidest shit so far....nice assertion...your debate skills are unsurpassed...

Brick

I dont need your help calling me out as a whiner, i have no problem doing that myself, why would i?? Its quite obvious thats what im doing.
And im blaming MA, they make the rules.
And exactly how. would it be beneficial for the game with your suggestion?
You laugh at my debating skills you say, but youre the one who hasnt figured out why that would be bad fri the game, i just didnt write it.
 
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November is not over and I have depo $1460

If so many people are non depositors... how come everybody complains about return?
How can you complain about return when you have not put anything in!


I guess I have earned the right to complain... but I will save it for later.
 
and...

but youre the one who hasnt figured out why that would be bad fri the game, i just didnt write it.

...you still didnt define it...with any idea there is both good and bad associated with its institution...I await your input about the bad with bated breath...:popcorn:


...trying to be productive here and not say 'stupid shit'...dammit i just did it...

Brick
 
I feel the same scorn towards depositors that think they are deserving of some sort of higher godlike level of respect because they "fund the game" and pay MA's salaries.

When I FIRST started EU, (Project Entropia), the main marketing ploy of the game was that it was FREE to play, and you can EXTRACT real life money from the game. It blew my mind. There is nothing wrong with playing with this purpose. It is extremely difficult and can be very rewarding. But again, it does not justify a smug attitude.

I'm sure many depo'ers are making more profit than many non depo'ers, via land areas, smart gameplay, and all the other investment opportunities. So you should be just as mad at them for "stealing" from your loot pool. Even though I can see where you're coming from... don't criminalize withdrawing money from the game unless you're going to do it universally. Otherwise it's pure hypocrisy.

At first glance the entire business model of this game seems unsustainable. But somehow PE/EU has lasted this long... Quite an achievement if you ask me. :beerchug:



I would lose all respect for EU if they did this. Because the lack of this clause is exactly what made this game so special to me in the first place. It's the only prominent game of it's kind.

At the end of the day it will always be a "dynamic" casino. Question is, are you willing to risk the loss of PED to be part of this virtual universe, or not?

The game would be nothing without the players... so much respect to all of you, regardless of how much you've deposited, for making my EU experience that much better...

Exactly this... espetially bolded part.

My first contact with Entropia was that it is an RCE game that is free to play and offers oportunity to withdraw money even without depositing a peny into the game.
When i started playing this game my basic aim was to play it for free and later i have set new aim: to start withdrawing money from it while still having lots of fun. And soon i am about to reach this aim.

And i really do not like Sunsout attitute at all. In fact i feel offended in some way. I am not sure if he directed his first post also at me (as i am 100% non-depositor) or no but either way it is still offending.

The non-depositor way i have chosen is not because i can't afford it but becasue i treat this like an achievment. And yes - i am proud of it.
And of course i do not think that depositors are any less - i agree that without them this game would not exist (or would have to have different buisness model - like mix of advertising and other possibilities).

Falagor
:bandit:
 
...you still didnt define it...with any idea there is both good and bad associated with its institution...I await your input about the bad with bated breath...:popcorn:

Brick

If you cant see the risks with supporting that kind of withdrawal rules i have nothing more to say.
 
Then I will stick to my previous statement...

i have nothing more to say.

...your debate skills are unsurpassed...and you go in the whiner with no solutions bin...next...why? because I said so...works for your argument works for mine...:lolup:...btw is ur avatar image Che Guevara or u imitating Che Guevara...I think Che would have been a BIG supporter of nondepositors....

Brick
 
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...your debate skills are unsurpassed...and you go in the whiner with no solutions bin...next...why? because I said so...works for your argument works for mine...:lolup:

Brick

Pls help me then, you support withdrawal rules that says, no more than you depo. Thats your solution, explain then?
Instead of being a proud bully
 
...cuz your being outwitted? :laugh: Just trying to keep it a little light so dont get pissed at me now...Personally I have more money than wits or time to spend dicking around with trying to be a nondepositor and I realized that I could start having REAL fun by depositing....and the only RL compromise is the time I spend on here and not doing something in RL...

Brick

I would NEVER be upset at being out-witted! Only a weak person would! I told you once in another thread. Quit assuming stuff about me because you do NOT know me. I have respect for people who profit. It is the ones who are lying, and bragging that I am upset with. How was that not crystal clear?


well,i have over 1 million in tracker,i am level 111 or 112 naturally,and i have deposited 200 or 300 dollar about 8 years ago,kinda forgot exact numbers
that was my only depo and i have withdrawn multiple multiple amounts of that
maybe thats the reason i never get an uberloot,dont know

Ok now I don't feel so bad when I look at your tracker :p



that said i really dont see many (any?) people behaving in the way that you say, am i really missing something?
i do notice a big difference now and from when i first started the game, those few that could succeed were admired and did not fear speaking about how they managed to succeed in this game, and i think that has changed in the last couple of years i dont see many people being open about success because of the way some people react.

Not only is it that same people on PCF over and over, its the non-depositors in game begging to heal me every 2 hours. It's the non-depositors lying to me because they want to hunt with me. It's the non-depositors that brag of withdrawing, like they won money against Deep Blue while using Warren Buffett's bankroll at a party at Carlos Slim Helu's house where they pissed in the sink and poured Cisco in the aquarium. They speak of it almost reverently, as if they are superior, and I just laugh at that, because it doesn't take a lot of brains to outwit people like me who shoot at fucking anything, it just take hours of sitting on your ass and never seeing the HOF light shine. And I fail to see why they feel the need to brag about that, and I hate them because they do.
 
i wont vote in this poll as its not representative

as expected it will end in a turdfight and whatnot


if you want real numbers read the annual reports by MA


as i said in the one witdraw thread ..why even 'measure' ppl like that
even if my case i have withdrawn after a tower to make some peds back i depoed before
and clds were no option back then and i reduced my playtime.

i didnt depo the first 4-6 month then depo lighty then played EVE a bit then depoed a bit more
withdrew and didnt play for 3 years.. now i depo moderate (100-150€) a month maybe
if i wanna play less then ill probably buy 1 or 2 clds

so what das that generate over close to 10 years.. i dunno


but every player is important just like most humans are in RL and should have the same rights
imho ^_°
 
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Arent you...

In fact, I depo'ed 3k last month. UNTIL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU APOLOGIZES FOR BRAGGING, I AM DONE DEPOSITING!!!!!! I promise you that I am doing this. MA just lost 30k peds a month (the monthly salary of one of its probably 6 employees...you think they wont notice?) HEY, MA, IT'S THE BRAGGING, LYING, NON-DEPOSITORS FAULT. Let's see your returns now.

...a nondepositor now? :poke:


...and turdfight is my new favorite word...thanks for that il...but boo on the no voting...

...and if your getting all huffy watch this again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8

Brick
 
but every player is important just like most humans are in RL and should have the same rights
imho ^_°

Everyone contributing to the economy is important, but to even have that game up and going together with its economy you need depositors or this game is gone as it is today. Do i feel depositors are not enough appreciated by MA? Yes. Does it make me overly sensitive to anything with the word nondepo and unfairly out of proportion making me adress them in a bad way, probably.
Do i care?
Is everything in the end up to MA? Yes
Let me fucking complain, rant, wthever. I know exactly what this game is about but i cant help it, let me complain Ive paid for it.
 
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The idea I said I would support...

Pls help me then, you support withdrawal rules that says, no more than you depo. Thats your solution, explain then?
Instead of being a proud bully

...was basically if you had a limit on withdrawals to what you had put in...then that would limit nondepositors and farmers with no intent of supporting the game from skimming off farming profits...but at some point of deposits you could have a release that allows one to take out more than one put in...I have no intent to withdraw...im not here to 'make a living'...i do that IRL...MA COULD DROP ME AN UBER ATH AND I WOULD REINVEST IT IN GAME...other players and possibly to further improvement in the game...my rule would prevent people from making a living from the game without putting some money on the table...certainly could be fine tuned a little better im sure but its clear...but I like how youve still made no clear statement about whats bad...not that theres not things that could be bad but that you call it stupid shit and then have no response to 'what do you mean?'...

Average player deposits ~$243 USD a month + difference in exchange because I think some voted on Euros or Pounds which have higher value...

Brick
 
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Mislaid records before May 2011

I guess if I take withdrawals into account, I've not really paid to play since Feb 2012.
Well once they pay me the 10K peds I'm waiting for (part sale of my unl items)

The biggest gain for me was sale of CLD's when I pulled out 71K peds, otherwise my numbers would look worse.
I pumped in all the deed divs into hunting, it was a magic 6 months or so.

In the old days think I was running $300 - $500 a month depo on average for quite a number of years.
I probably would still be paying and playing, but it was massive ped sink holes that forced me to withdraw out of pure anger.

In my heart I love Entropia, just need to take step back for a while.


Amount (PED)
12717362 27/10/2013 17:44 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,092.40
12696584 22/09/2013 12:56 Pending Bank Withdrawal -10,000.00
12619371 01/06/2013 12:41 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,470.20
12606429 13/05/2013 22:39 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,521.20 inc +496 for IV combustive
12591184 22/04/2013 19:39 Committed Dibs Deposit 3,085.30 Final 3 parts phantom
12574954 28/03/2013 22:21 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,045.80
12573431 26/03/2013 20:43 Committed Dibs Deposit 3,800.70 X Lacerating Chip
12571177 23/03/2013 22:10 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,611.60
12570673 23/03/2013 12:57 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,025.60
12564586 14/03/2013 22:17 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,009.40
12548243 19/02/2013 22:21 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,940.20
12546612 17/02/2013 10:59 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,001.30
12536510 02/02/2013 15:31 Committed Dibs Deposit 7,181.40 XI heal and VII Combustive
12533041 28/01/2013 23:32 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,004.00
12522738 14/01/2013 19:10 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,013.50
12508511 27/12/2012 12:42 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,560.20
12497859 14/12/2012 12:00 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,930.00
12495576 10/12/2012 20:35 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12478937 16/11/2012 23:18 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12464479 28/10/2012 13:59 Committed Bank Withdrawal -71,000.00
12464132 27/10/2012 23:32 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12457169 17/10/2012 00:32 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12439221 17/09/2012 18:54 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12420715 18/08/2012 21:08 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12401703 17/07/2012 17:14 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12382136 17/06/2012 15:53 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12370065 29/05/2012 23:24 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12364758 20/05/2012 16:55 Committed Dibs Deposit 579.00
12360666 13/05/2012 12:03 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12346215 22/04/2012 13:30 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12331875 01/04/2012 14:07 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12329037 28/03/2012 17:25 Committed Dibs Deposit 4,053.00
12324627 21/03/2012 20:06 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,026.50
12321921 17/03/2012 14:25 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12316995 10/03/2012 00:22 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,895.00
12315673 07/03/2012 22:53 Committed Dibs Deposit 4,825.00
12312151 03/03/2012 00:52 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,930.00
12311849 02/03/2012 18:15 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12310426 29/02/2012 18:57 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,544.00
12309685 28/02/2012 18:37 Committed Dibs Deposit 4,825.00
12306509 25/02/2012 09:53 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12301896 22/02/2012 00:04 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12299665 18/02/2012 22:04 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,412.50
12296676 14/02/2012 19:41 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,930.00
12294305 11/02/2012 13:07 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12293090 10/02/2012 00:05 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12292399 08/02/2012 22:02 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12289635 04/02/2012 23:38 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,895.00
12289609 04/02/2012 22:50 Committed Neteller Deposit 466.30
12288760 03/02/2012 21:40 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12286541 31/01/2012 18:23 Committed Dibs Deposit 4,969.80
12283971 27/01/2012 19:25 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,447.50
12278020 18/01/2012 20:44 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12277366 17/01/2012 20:11 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,881.80
12274473 13/01/2012 18:37 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12273978 12/01/2012 23:09 Committed Dibs Deposit 820.30
12273283 11/01/2012 20:02 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,013.30
12269127 05/01/2012 16:32 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12266926 02/01/2012 00:31 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12265388 30/12/2011 16:32 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12258158 21/12/2011 11:12 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12256719 19/12/2011 01:03 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12254584 15/12/2011 22:23 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12246633 03/12/2011 12:14 Committed Dibs Deposit 579.00
12236407 16/11/2011 20:57 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12234749 14/11/2011 00:58 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,978.30
12234358 13/11/2011 14:17 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,978.30
12233646 12/11/2011 15:42 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,026.50
12232294 11/11/2011 00:59 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,026.50
12231180 09/11/2011 18:26 Committed Dibs Deposit 1,930.00
12230528 09/11/2011 00:43 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,412.50
12230516 09/11/2011 00:29 Committed Dibs Deposit 2,412.50
12228694 06/11/2011 00:44 Committed Dibs Deposit 386.00
12224468 30/10/2011 07:39 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12219343 21/10/2011 22:28 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12216407 16/10/2011 23:52 Committed Dibs Deposit 386.00
12213026 11/10/2011 18:27 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12202009 25/09/2011 08:07 Committed Dibs Deposit 289.50
12199690 21/09/2011 19:18 Committed Dibs Deposit 193.00
12197904 18/09/2011 16:29 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12195949 15/09/2011 09:53 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12185494 29/08/2011 22:00 Committed Dibs Deposit 289.50
12184730 28/08/2011 16:50 Committed Dibs Deposit 289.50
12179301 20/08/2011 15:42 Committed Dibs Deposit 579.00
12174506 13/08/2011 13:08 Committed Dibs Deposit 193.00
12162775 26/07/2011 19:49 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12152827 09/07/2011 16:09 Committed Bank Withdrawal -25,000.00 withdrew
12140882 22/06/2011 08:36 Committed Dibs Deposit 24,125.00
tried to buy mothership
12137304 16/06/2011 18:34 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12129351 04/06/2011 08:56 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50
12125677 30/05/2011 02:36 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12121895 25/05/2011 13:32 Committed Dibs Deposit 965.00
12117129 17/05/2011 20:51 Committed Dibs Deposit 482.50

Total 45,655.90

Rick
 
...was basically if you had a limit on withdrawals to what you had put in...then that would limit nondepositors and farmers with no intent of supporting the game from skimming off farming profits...but at some point of deposits you could have a release that allows one to take out more than one put in...I have no intent to withdraw...im not here to 'make a living'...i do that IRL...MA COULD DROP ME AN UBER ATH AND I WOULD REINVEST IT IN GAME...other players and possibly to further improvement in the game...my rule would prevent people from making a living from the game without putting some money on the table...certainly could be fine tuned a little better im sure but its clear...but I like how youve still made no clear statement about whats bad...not that theres not things that could be bad but that you call it stupid shit and then have no response to what do you mean...

Average player deposits ~$243 USD a month + difference in exchange because I think some voted on Euros or Pounds which have higher value...

Brick

Ok, im typing on my phone, time is 01:00 and i work tomorrow. Im going to bed., but you know that would take away a whole lot of players and possible investers?
Advertised as free to play but you cant withdraw if you dont give us money? no not even i would start playing.
 
im not so sure about that...

Ok, im typing on my phone, time is 01:00 and i work tomorrow. Im going to bed., but you know that would take away a whole lot of players and possible investers?
Advertised as free to play but you cant withdraw if you dont give us money? no not even i would start playing.

...and exactly the players you are complaining about would be the ones that would not play? so I don't follow...

Brick
 
I cant depo more than 100 ped a month.. mom wont let me :(
 
Not only is it that same people on PCF over and over, its the non-depositors in game begging to heal me every 2 hours. It's the non-depositors lying to me because they want to hunt with me. It's the non-depositors that brag of withdrawing, like they won money against Deep Blue while using Warren Buffett's bankroll at a party at Carlos Slim Helu's house where they pissed in the sink and poured Cisco in the aquarium. They speak of it almost reverently, as if they are superior, and I just laugh at that, because it doesn't take a lot of brains to outwit people like me who shoot at fucking anything, it just take hours of sitting on your ass and never seeing the HOF light shine. And I fail to see why they feel the need to brag about that, and I hate them because they do.

ok i get that, i guess its just not something i notice or experience that much myself in this context but i think its fair to sum up what you are pointing out with a simple, many people on this planet just are pretty poor examples of the human race and imho its best to try to not let them get you down to much.
 
I would sure like to know how people play this game without a depo because sometimes my luck runs so bad that it would take a year to earn the ped to play my way out of it without a depo .


That is how my entropia life has been when Im up everything I do works great but when Im down nothing I do no matter how eco will shake of the loss except log out but its their waiting on me when I log back in until the up time starts again. I have been playing 4 years or so and my average depo has been 60 a month sometimes way more and sometimes way less but it averages out to 60 my ingame name is maximus carl rodgers.
 
I would sure like to know how people play this game without a depo because sometimes my luck runs so bad that it would take a year to earn the ped to play my way out of it without a depo .


That is how my entropia life has been when Im up everything I do works great but when Im down nothing I do no matter how eco will shake of the loss except log out but its their waiting on me when I log back in until the up time starts again. I have been playing 4 years or so and my average depo has been 60 a month sometimes way more and sometimes way less but it averages out to 60 my ingame name is maximus carl rodgers.

Pretty sure many players have written guides on this subject if you scroll through the forums, stickies, etc.
 
Playing without depo is a pita. It basically means you need a larger PED card than depositing players, you have to ride out the low times without a depo to get you through. This means that for the size of your bankroll you will always be able to do less than someone who deposits. It's doable, but not much fun for most. Especially if you go 100% non-depo from the start, my hat is off to those that can or have done this. I tried to play without depositing and made it about 2 months before I dropped my first $100, lol.
 
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