Question: How much do you deposit?

How much do you deposit in a typical month in USD?

  • Zero...zilch...nada!

    Votes: 90 35.4%
  • $10-50

    Votes: 37 14.6%
  • $50-100

    Votes: 29 11.4%
  • $100-200

    Votes: 35 13.8%
  • $200-500

    Votes: 28 11.0%
  • $500-1000

    Votes: 11 4.3%
  • >$1000

    Votes: 24 9.4%

  • Total voters
    254
Pretty sure many players have written guides on this subject if you scroll through the forums, stickies, etc.

The truth is that there are people who're rich, and people who write books how to get rich and who perhaps get rich in process too, but that's not what their books are about :)
 
Playing without depo is a pita. It basically means you need a larger PED card than depositing players, you have to ride out the low times without a depo to get you through. This means that for the size of your bankroll you will always be able to do less than someone who deposits. It's doable, but not much fun for most. Especially if you go 100% non-depo from the start, my hat is off to those that can or have done this. I tried to play without depositing and made it about 2 months before I dropped my first $100, lol.

To each his own. When I first started playing I think it was in '05, I had tons of fun playing without depo. The game was so new to me, every day was an exciting adventure...

But what made it by far the most fun was the other players. The friends. The social aspect. You can have a ton of fun in this game if you surround yourself with lots of friendly, positive fun-loving people. You don't need that many PEDs ;)

I find that more difficult now, though. Perhaps with age comes a certain cynicism and loss of innocence :(
 
I used to be a heavy depositor 18 months ago in the range of $4-500 per fortnight. Now that MindArk seems to have no respect for the investments players make in this game I have cut back to maybe $50 a fortnight if at all.

Sorry, but when I invest in items, I don't expect the parent company to have no clue about economics and how their actions effect players investments. Loss close to 30000Ped now purely on effects of change in tiering system, loss of MV due to over supply of new items and devaluation.

I have no issues with the world financial crisis effecting prices, nothing can be done there. Why MindArk doesn't release 50 more Mod Mercs, they may as well they seem to be hell bent on giving every player a DOA Slugstorm and Calytrek driving prices down even further.
 
I used to be a heavy depositor 18 months ago in the range of $4-500 per fortnight. Now that MindArk seems to have no respect for the investments players make in this game I have cut back to maybe $50 a fortnight if at all.

Sorry, but when I invest in items, I don't expect the parent company to have no clue about economics and how their actions effect players investments. Loss close to 30000Ped now purely on effects of change in tiering system, loss of MV due to over supply of new items and devaluation.

I have no issues with the world financial crisis effecting prices, nothing can be done there. Why MindArk doesn't release 50 more Mod Mercs, they may as well they seem to be hell bent on giving every player a DOA Slugstorm and Calytrek driving prices down even further.

I would love to know what they're thinking. Part of me would love to buy an m83, but it seems like they're dropping like candy every week. The prices for these weapons are going to continue to plummet into oblivion so buying anything unL now seems like an extremely poor investment.
 
I would love to know what they're thinking. Part of me would love to buy an m83, but it seems like they're dropping like candy every week. The prices for these weapons are going to continue to plummet into oblivion so buying anything unL now seems like an extremely poor investment.
It's simple. Because players asked for it. The problem is that players ask for things without thinking about how things will play out in the future. There needs to be someone working for MindArk who thinks about these things, but whether the do seems debatable at best.
 
UL items need to have a set number of them allowed in game per x players.

This way as the player base grows more can drop, but they are still rare. On Mod Merc per 2k players for example (I have nfc if that's a fair balance, just an example!). So not everyone can have a mod merc, but the chance to loot one still exists giving us something nice to hope for :)

As for event loots... yeah... Creating more and more events that all give out UL items for prizes without having the growth in the player base to support it is doing no one any favors.

More common UL's means current owners see their PED spent on MU disappear, fewer people buy (L) from crafters, crafters use fewer mined / hunted loots, hunters and miners get lower MU for their loots... It's a wonderful thing to have so many UL items coming into the game! (/sarcasm on that last bit, in case y'all missed it ;) )

MA needs two things better marketing and better balancing. Those two done effectively will fix most of the issues people complain about on these forums.
 
UL items need to have a set number of them allowed in game per x players.

This way as the player base grows more can drop, but they are still rare. On Mod Merc per 2k players for example (I have nfc if that's a fair balance, just an example!). So not everyone can have a mod merc, but the chance to loot one still exists giving us something nice to hope for :)

As for event loots... yeah... Creating more and more events that all give out UL items for prizes without having the growth in the player base to support it is doing no one any favors.

More common UL's means current owners see their PED spent on MU disappear, fewer people buy (L) from crafters, crafters use fewer mined / hunted loots, hunters and miners get lower MU for their loots... It's a wonderful thing to have so many UL items coming into the game! (/sarcasm on that last bit, in case y'all missed it ;) )

MA needs two things better marketing and better balancing. Those two done effectively will fix most of the issues people complain about on these forums.

Yay, I managed to read it all!

couple things.

hell yes Events r fucking things up.. Too many UL drops from mobs and events. I would say yes and no.

My reasoning is this.. Its not that UL is bad. its the laziness of MA to give a lack of variety.

for last 3 events and MM coming up the same items will be rewards. so that's 4x the same items plus whats been looted.

Good Example POTE armor. Slugstorm. M83. Shadow. Jag. all these are dropping by the boatload.. as well as the Ten edition guns and Arson chips.

Why not make new items a bit more rare or unique that are for events. No reason at all the cloak the vampire drops couldn't have been 1 or 5 of the prizes for the HM. The guns instead of slug, how bout a different god damned BLP gun ffs a marine stalker or longbolt etc. maybe L5 or L6 istead of another L4 or L3, instead of m83 how bout m87 or m91 or redeemer. How about a marcorp instead of another frontier.

I think you all get the picture.

There is no reason that UL couldn't drop but be of different variation and type. Then there is still a demand and ladder of needs. If I have a slugstorm. I want to upgrade. If I have a L4 I want an upgrade for example. not more of the same shit dropping killing the mu of what I have and the gap for me to go up is still there.

And really whats up with lv 21 mobs dropping M83 really.... its fucking lv 8x to use. That should be dropping from a warlock or similar. or let a couple drop then that gun should have filled the Quota for the amount to be in game then another mob could drop something different.

Then we wouldn't see 3x Ten edition guns drop in couple hours on RT
or 2 withinin 24hr on Ark.
etc.

This entire HM event all dropps happened in waves for the items. and it can be seen clear as day. Poor bastards hunt day in day out all the time.. then right when they not on.. several amps, chips, armor parts, faps n shit all drop within like 20 min.. then back to fuck all loot again.

Im sure the pumpkins dropped the same way.

And real nice touch how MA descided not to make vampiric cloak a rare item so nobody fucking knows how many really dropped.
Which was the point of that fucking rare Hof section in the first place.
 
I voted 50-100 a month.

But that's not exactly accurate as some months I can go up to 1k or more (especially if am buying something), and on some months, I may not deposit much, if at all.

So figure 50-100 a month should be as close as I can get.
 
November is not over and I have depo $1460

If so many people are non depositors... how come everybody complains about return?
How can you complain about return when you have not put anything in!

Simple... they are cheeky leeching bastards :) I have never complained on these forums (about returns... Taming fuck yeah i have) and i would of done 70 grand US easy, it was fun i enjoyed it but i get sick and tired of people moaning to me then find out they depod fk all.
 
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Non-depo'ers put them time, blood and sweat in. If you think that's worth any less than dollars... you're wrong. Lol

They have the same right to complain as anyone else.
 
Non-depo'ers put them time, blood and sweat in. If you think that's worth any less than dollars... you're wrong. Lol

They have the same right to complain as anyone else.

Explain how someone who has never deposited has anything to complain about? I play Battlefield 4 and i never complain i don't own any of the guns and my money i pay for the game helps develop the next game.

How does someone who never deposited help the game develop, get new features allow Mindark to progress? I'm really curious as i thought non depositors just used other players deposits in the game but enlighten me.

i have been playing 6 years or more and not once have i bled or worked up a sweat.
 
I dont know.about you but ive bled.a.bit when I smashed the keyboard and cut my finger because I got mad at the 40 percent return I had on a 600 ped hunt of huon.
 
I dont know.about you but ive bled.a.bit when I smashed the keyboard and cut my finger because I got mad at the 40 percent return I had on a 600 ped hunt of huon.

Yeah i saw the cctv footage of that.

 
Explain how someone who has never deposited has anything to complain about? I play Battlefield 4 and i never complain i don't own any of the guns and my money i pay for the game helps develop the next game.

How does someone who never deposited help the game develop, get new features allow Mindark to progress? I'm really curious as i thought non depositors just used other players deposits in the game but enlighten me.

i have been playing 6 years or more and not once have i bled or worked up a sweat.

While what you say is true, put yourself in their shoes. Spending countless hours sweating or reselling or whatever the hell they do. Boring and tedious, and repetitive. And then they go on a hunt and get 50% TT return. Of course they will complain. Wouldn't you? After investing so much time and effort, and then getting spat on by the loot pool. Do you really think they're such bad people for complaining?
 
While what you say is true, put yourself in their shoes. Spending countless hours sweating or reselling or whatever the hell they do. Boring and tedious, and repetitive. And then they go on a hunt and get 50% TT return. Of course they will complain. Wouldn't you? After investing so much time and effort, and then getting spat on by the loot pool. Do you really think they're such bad people for complaining?

yeah it's my fault.. i should put myself in their shoes :) Wonder how long the game would last if we all put ourselves in the shoes of the poor unfortunate never depositing players.

edit: I think all never depositing players should have a pvp cloud permanently above their head so they can be killed whenever they moan, seems fair :)
 
While what you say is true, put yourself in their shoes. Spending countless hours sweating or reselling or whatever the hell they do. Boring and tedious, and repetitive. And then they go on a hunt and get 50% TT return. Of course they will complain. Wouldn't you? After investing so much time and effort, and then getting spat on by the loot pool. Do you really think they're such bad people for complaining?

if they had depo'd there would be more peds in the loot pool to begin with so.....

non depositors are the devil!

They r the root cause of poor loot returns!


No but seriously,, in no way do they ENHANCE the economy. they create a ped leak, not a vehicle of income for the game. Liability
 
the question is now..

how many of the top alltime 50 hunters/miners did actually deposit the last few years?


i know ofc a whole bunch who didnt.


*hands out pichtforks

^_°
 
the question is now..

how many of the top alltime 50 hunters/miners did actually deposit the last few years?


i know ofc a whole bunch who didnt.


*hands out pichtforks

^_°

If you deposited then you contributed to the game development at some stage, i just mean those who say they never have and never will and are proud of it, if you have managed to deposit and work your way into never having to again then great, those are few and far between.
 
Alright...Fess up?

Yeah i saw the cctv footage of that.


...which one of you is this? Sunsout? Raven? Jin Franka...come on fess up!! :laugh:

Brick
 
I used to deposit, but havent since 2010, so i voted zero, nada.

Sometime in the future i may deposit, but only if i have to.

Understanding what is needed in both effort and sacrifise to play without a continous deposit is not easy to gain for most people, i could do even better, but im lazy so i actually tt alot of my loot despite my own advice not to do so.

sometimes people who deposit on a regular basis ask me, to give them some advice on how to play with what youve got without the need to put in more, and the longer the discussion goes, the more clear it becomes that most people actually think people who have stopped depositing play just like the ones depositing, just with some magical better loot, wich ofcourse is not the truth.

First i tell them to sell the DOA and get a ul sib weapon, then they look strange at me with that stare one gets when the situation gets absurd, and out pops a "But, i cant afford a UL SIB with same dps as my t6 DOA"

correct, and thats the answer to all the following questions, if its not clear to the person at that point, it wont ever be.

EU needs depositors, no doubt, ive deposited my fair share ( however one can say that, lets say its up to each and everyone to decide where their limit is ) and i may pickup on depositing one day, but im not there yet.

Play EU as a casino, or play EU as a RCE where you play vs other players, and the market rather than vs the system, your choice, your money.

But first of all, have fun, its entertainment and i have no regrets on deposits ive made, only actions i made wrongly prior to 2010 are the ones i regret, because i didnt know better.

cheers

ermik
 
i dunno, man.

i think the guy at the tp selling sweat or the player who has a Q7 with a MA sticker on it dont bother me neither way :)


*sarcasm off
 
Now this is simply not accurate...

if they had depo'd there would be more peds in the loot pool to begin with so.....

non depositors are the devil!

They r the root cause of poor loot returns!


No but seriously,, in no way do they ENHANCE the economy. they create a ped leak, not a vehicle of income for the game. Liability

...im sorry...but that's not true...they have value...come on now...

Brick
 
they...

u must specify the added value.............

...are fappers...they are ore buyers...they are loot buyers...they are footstools when u r tired...they look at you with googly eyes when you speak to them of your day hunting proteron....

...oh yeah...I just saw...they do the whole 'your ad here' in twin peaks...

Brick
 
...are fappers...they are ore buyers...they are loot buyers...they are footstools when u r tired...they look at you with googly eyes when you speak to them of your day hunting proteron....

...oh yeah...I just saw...they do the whole 'your ad here' in twin peaks...

Brick

most of what u described are depositors at some point

even if just to get their first fap90 to fap with... or start cash pool for retrading
 
...im sorry...but that's not true...they have value...come on now...

Brick

Depositors are the loot pool. All Ped ingame is deposited. It's why depositors get pissy when a nondepositor gets a huge ass HOF. I am yet to loot anything of value
 
So sick of the people that don't play for shit going on about being a non-depositor. You're not "awesome" and you're not better than anyone else. I posit that depositors are 10x more important, and are better people with better lives.

Do you brag about going to a casino and just sitting in the free buffet? Yeah you probably do. Or maybe you do gamble a little, and when you lose, you still lie and tell your friends that you won. You know the type of head-case I am talking about, right?

Go stand in twins some more and do nothing except come on the forum and talk about this game.

In fact I bet every one of you depo'ed at some point. Those that did depo, even once, and claim to be a non-depositor, are sick, or weak, or insecure. (Not futurama, at least he admits it)

Seriously...are you that insecure that you have to mention it every fucking thread???

Can we have a section of the forum for people who actually play and depo? And aren't pure whiney nobodies who do nothing?

Most of you are liars...you have depo'ed in the past, and you just want to look smart so you come on here spewing flaming horseshit. And now I am going to bust you out on the forum and to MA, for lying.

Neg rep the shit out of me if you are a non-depositor who feels you need to brag about how clever you are. That way I will know who you are and I can ignore anything you ever say ever from here on out.

I voted over 1k. I provide you with your pussy returns. I am the awesome one. And so are the others that do it, and that came before me. We are your God's...and all you non-depositors better wake up.

In fact, I depo'ed 3k last month. UNTIL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU APOLOGIZES FOR BRAGGING, I AM DONE DEPOSITING!!!!!! I promise you that I am doing this. MA just lost 30k peds a month (the monthly salary of one of its probably 6 employees...you think they wont notice?) HEY, MA, IT'S THE BRAGGING, LYING, NON-DEPOSITORS FAULT. Let's see your returns now.


If you think I am kidding, I am not. My word is fucking stone. I will prove it to you in 1 month. I will send this to MA and have my depo ability locked. And I will let them know why.

You guys finally just pissed me off once and for all.

Edit: And to all the REAL non-depositors, who never once felt the need to brag on here, or the new avatars struggling to sweat and skill until you learn enough about the game, this is NOT directed at you.


The reason why I consider myself a non-depositor is because when I started playing in ~2004-2005 I didn't even had the ability or funds to deposit. With playing smart and a few freebies I built up myself in the following years and was always able to hunt/mine without the need to deposit.

I have deposited only twice - both times in the past year, which wasn't for the purpose of funding my ingame activities as I had everything I needed already, but purely speculative in nature to earn extra peds for the purpose of withdrawal later on.
 
no wonder that the game sucks!
more than 45%'s zero ... zilch ... nada users!!!
 
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