How active is the player base?

[DiabloP]

Its interesting how some players continue to dismiss this research when they fail to conduct a more accurate research. Saying things like:

"I would guess the active player base is . . ."
"I would estimate the active player base is . . ."
"I think the active player base is . . . "
"based on my experience I'd say the active player base is . . ."

Is no way of proving your point. Until a better research is conducted or MA decides to reveal its "Secrete corporate figures" I would say 2200 is the best estimate we have.

[skunkjunk]

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Its interesting how some players continue to dismiss this research when they fail to conduct a more accurate research. Saying things like:

"I would guess the active player base is . . ."
"I would estimate the active player base is . . ."
"I think the active player base is . . . "
"based on my experience I'd say the active player base is . . ."

Is no way of proving your point. Until a better research is conducted or MA decides to reveal its "Secrete corporate figures" I would say 2200 is the best estimate we have.

yeah and while we admit to speculate and accually say we cant know.

You do "research"based on crap information and claim it to be accuarate and tel it like truth

You ful of so much shit and bring it as truth.

Luckely all the Op has to do to know how much total bullshit comes from you is check youre previus post and responses.

Thnx for prooving my point when i say a lot of people here are full of shit

[Svarog]

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Until MA decides to reveal the actual number the best estimate we have is about 2200 active players:

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...ve-Player-Base

I really can't understand why you keep forcing this "research" (I bet it was you who posted it into Wikipedia's article). It doesn't matter if it's correct or not. If you play the game yourself it's not in your interest to harm it and scare off new players, and if you don't play then why bother at all. Unless you work in someone else's interest.

[shoti]

Even if we consider DiabloP methodology a bit odd ,usualy once or twice a year someone try to determine No of active players. No mather what method was used ( stragest so far i seen was counting active mentor and comparing result to pool on forum how many of ppl is doing mentoring...then extrapolate results ) results were always similar and were in region of 4000-5000 two years ago and year ago. And 2000-3000 lately

Personaly i think tracker data are most acurate - interpretation is the key.

I think someone who can't global for year or so cant be called active in terms we are looking here. I am not seing he doesnt have imput on enconomy. It is just so small that can only falsify results by few %'s.

Even most active auction zombie non depositor trading 20hrs/day or autoboter sweater 20hrs/day have only negative impact for MA incomes so considering such cases in terms of good/bad for MA and ingame economy or "wanna join game future trader" can be only marginal.

[shoti]

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[...] It doesn't matter if it's correct or not. [...]

ooOO how's that ? Aren't we all seek truth about that ? I bet most ppl lurking here counted on some numbers being droped. Tehy are always same numbers

[Svarog]

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Aren't we all seek truth about that ?

We can't handle the truth

The question about EU's userbase is Schrödinger's box. While it's kept closed, nobody knows that the cat is dead.

[Few Scars]

The reason MA keeps it a secret is for the ingame Market value. If we pretend there are 1000000 active players we don't feel so bad when items don't sell. Maybe based on deposits, CLDs are 25% of MA income each week. Say 4ped per CLD ROI x 60000= 240000ped x 4 = 960000ped income per week. So that's $96000USD, now for arguements sake each of that 96k is a $100 deposit from a player. That's just 960 players depositing $100 per week at best, more so it will be a smaller number as some players put in $1000s per week. Now add on non-depositors and globals on Entropia Lif and you get a population of about 2-3000 active players.

[Neil Stockton]

Secrete does sounds more ominous than secret.

Other than that, "active players" needs to be defined. Unique logins per week is a useful stat. Also the number of players online at any one time would be a good number to know.

[Neil Stockton]

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Even most active auction zombie non depositor trading 20hrs/day or autoboter sweater 20hrs/day have only negative impact for MA incomes so considering such cases in terms of good/bad for MA and ingame economy or "wanna join game future trader" can be only marginal.

Where do you think all those auction fees go?

[minim]

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The reason MA keeps it a secret is for the ingame Market value. If we pretend there are 1000000 active players we don't feel so bad when items don't sell. Maybe based on deposits, CLDs are 25% of MA income each week. Say 4ped per CLD ROI x 60000= 240000ped x 4 = 960000ped income per week. So that's $96000USD, now for arguements sake each of that 96k is a $100 deposit from a player. That's just 960 players depositing $100 per week at best, more so it will be a smaller number as some players put in $1000s per week. Now add on non-depositors and globals on Entropia Lif and you get a population of about 2-3000 active players.

that's insane depo numbers :P I think there are a lot more of the small depos in the 20-50$ range and not many that depo every week so the number of players are lot higher than you are estimating.