They would finally realize(?) that EU is just a game and that MA is a company, not a charity association.
PS: OP sorry for the offtopic.
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They would finally realize(?) that EU is just a game and that MA is a company, not a charity association.
PS: OP sorry for the offtopic.
poeple have to take this out of there head investment there no investment if poeple dont spend money
i buy for a dollar today and want 2 dollar the next day most of the poeple that say the game is ok is poeple taking out money
i dont mind loosing a around 100 dollars a month but i cant afords a 100 dollar a day
i now spend that 100 on other game were i can log on play for a few hours here and there and dont have to fight whit the sever crashing 10 time to long on in a hour wouldnt be bad if you could log back on whit in a min most time i have to restart the computor
oh poeple say buy another one ok spend another 2k for a computor
my 2 thing is
fix the game instablily crashing and bug cant play whit others its eather me crash or my buddys
to cost to play and i dont want to hunt punys
from what i see they like better making new stuff than fixing what half broken
i buy for a dollar today and want 2 dollar the next day most of the poeple that say the game is ok is poeple taking out money
i dont mind loosing a around 100 dollars a month but i cant afords a 100 dollar a day
i now spend that 100 on other game were i can log on play for a few hours here and there and dont have to fight whit the sever crashing 10 time to long on in a hour wouldnt be bad if you could log back on whit in a min most time i have to restart the computor
oh poeple say buy another one ok spend another 2k for a computor
my 2 thing is
fix the game instablily crashing and bug cant play whit others its eather me crash or my buddys
to cost to play and i dont want to hunt punys
from what i see they like better making new stuff than fixing what half broken
Why you need a 2k PC? You're a troll or you lack knowledge of IT. Ask in forum if 2nd one and I do believe some1 will provide you a configuration that can run EU smoothly along with other state of the art games.
EDIT: Depending on the PC hardware, it might just be necessary to update the graphics card, where budget of 100€ is more than enought
I have a PC way under 800€ that runs EU perfectly in Medium graphics settings.
BTW, the upgrade to these "new"(?) graphics was when? almost 3 years ago or more? I don't remember
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lolz
Anyway, another big plus for reguarly users would be regular contact from MA. Perhaps they should utilise the clientloader to have a reguarly, bi weekly blog to say what the plans are for the week, how development is, or even just to say hi, there's someone alive here at MA. Customer service goes a long way. And I'm certain a developer can spend 5 minutes writing a small piece of info after the 9am Monday meeting.
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Sure, EU still utilizing DX9 in cryeng, meanwhile engine itself capable DX11.
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Yep, hate it.
Ok may be hate is the wrong word but on the few missions I have done I've clicked through them and felt nothing for the story they were supposed to be conveying.
As for the grinding missions, personally I'd rip them all out. They've screwed up the economy and have led to many mobs loosing their items, decent stackables and decimated what little MU some still had in MA's attempts to balance out their effects on the economy due to their massive over hunting.
I'd certainly limit the number of mobs any PP could give a grind mission to. Hell I'd probably only put them on low end mobs and only up to a 1000 kills at most as a way for newbies to hunt.
One of the things many us stuck around for was because EU didn't force us into certain actions, it was completely open world and we could do anything when ever we wanted which it still can be. But it seems more and more are taking the approach that if MA say we should do something we should jump to it and then complain when they don't get rewarded for it.
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Some people, including some new players, love the grinding missions. If they're not your thing, don't do them... nobody's forced to do any missions. The missions may have lowered some MUs, but that's not "screwing up" the economy, that's the economy working. MA, PP, and CLD owners get more income when people hunt more, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to try and reduce hunting.
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yup,i love the grinding..i really could not care less about an storyline
grinding the missions is what makes me cycle between 6-12k peds a day
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Some like grinding, some don't. Some care about story line, others don't. Some care about graphics and frankly the graphics are good enough. The core of EU, the essence of the game, and the fundamental reason we are all here is the RCE. After all, there is no shortage of games that have better graphics and a good storyline but what those games lack is a functioning Real Cash Economy.
For most new players, I think it's hard for them to wrap their head around the RCE aspect. They dont know what a HOF is like... They don't understand that through continued game play, all of those skills start to be worth a considerable amount of money.
We all know most non-depositors usually don't last long, and that's fine. The metric that needs to be focused on is the conversion rate of people who decide to deposit. A simple $50-$100 deposit completely changes the experience because now a set of armor along with other basics can easily be had with more than enough ped left over for enough ammo or probes to experience what a global or hof is like. More guidance needs to be given to new players via in-game systems with regard to which items to get I order to properly get started
New players now are given heal tools, weapons, and ammo, mining equipment, etc, plus a basic ground based vehicle. Clearly the goal is to allow them to sample the game. A big part of EU is exploration and discovery, always has been.... What they also should be given is an avatar bound decay-with-movement (L) air based vehicle that they have to craft themselves. This gives a way to better sample the game and see the sights.
I've said elsewhere that drama and excitement helps to hold peoples interest. Make an instance that's dramatic, where they fall into and get stuck in a vast cavern, with dying from scary creatures as a part of it with no way to escape but with a flight capable vehicle. So now they are stuck underground and even if they manage to evade the mob spawn, it's not possible to climb out. Put basic terminals at the underground revive, along with a crafting machine a mission broker. Here they get blueprint and a quest that guides them through gathering the required free resources needed to craft a simple flight capable vehicle. Once they do that and fly out, give them a free tool marks all of the teleporter locations on their map. Now they can explore and see how vast EU is.
I think that this will help the download-to-deposit conversion rate.
For most new players, I think it's hard for them to wrap their head around the RCE aspect. They dont know what a HOF is like... They don't understand that through continued game play, all of those skills start to be worth a considerable amount of money.
We all know most non-depositors usually don't last long, and that's fine. The metric that needs to be focused on is the conversion rate of people who decide to deposit. A simple $50-$100 deposit completely changes the experience because now a set of armor along with other basics can easily be had with more than enough ped left over for enough ammo or probes to experience what a global or hof is like. More guidance needs to be given to new players via in-game systems with regard to which items to get I order to properly get started
New players now are given heal tools, weapons, and ammo, mining equipment, etc, plus a basic ground based vehicle. Clearly the goal is to allow them to sample the game. A big part of EU is exploration and discovery, always has been.... What they also should be given is an avatar bound decay-with-movement (L) air based vehicle that they have to craft themselves. This gives a way to better sample the game and see the sights.
I've said elsewhere that drama and excitement helps to hold peoples interest. Make an instance that's dramatic, where they fall into and get stuck in a vast cavern, with dying from scary creatures as a part of it with no way to escape but with a flight capable vehicle. So now they are stuck underground and even if they manage to evade the mob spawn, it's not possible to climb out. Put basic terminals at the underground revive, along with a crafting machine a mission broker. Here they get blueprint and a quest that guides them through gathering the required free resources needed to craft a simple flight capable vehicle. Once they do that and fly out, give them a free tool marks all of the teleporter locations on their map. Now they can explore and see how vast EU is.
I think that this will help the download-to-deposit conversion rate.
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I like that idea.
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Agreed but cryengine 2 is only capable of directX10.Cry 3 is 11
Yes, yes, was just a typo, 1 and 0 is close on the keyboard and by ideology!
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Didn't know that there is distance between two opposite binaries!
Seems sweden binaries are spaced more than others.
NOW I KNOW WHY EU IS SO SLOPPY. THX.
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A noob experience...
Hello,
I'm a total noob... started playing some weeks ago. Just posting here to share my personal experience.
Regarding the tech issues, I did not have any problem when downloading nor installing the game. I have an old Intel Core2 Duo 3Ghz machine, GTX 460 graphics card, and Win7. The game runs perfectly with middle quality graphics settings. I did experienced some CTD when playing though, maybe 2 or 3. When trying to log in again, I received an error message saying something like "Your avatar is already logged in"... looked for it in the EU official FAQ, waited for 10 minutes, and I could login again. Was a little annoying, but very far of being a cause to quit playing the game.
Now regarding content, story line, understanding the game, and why I play it and plan to keep playing it...
I discovered the Project Entropia game a few years back in 2006, did try it for a few days... If I remember correctly, I had an orange suite at that time, and sweating was done with the hands and mumbling something. I was amazed at the RCE concept. But it was not the time for me to commit to the game though. Years passed, lots of games under the bridge also... and now I'm starting in Calypso again.
The first day I created my avatar (no more orange clothes... but yellow now?), named it and started doing missions for that Yoshida guy. I was pretty entertained right from the start. I was receiving stuff, and didn't have to pay anything! The game felt good and really better that my old experience. At this point was thinking if the sweating thing have been gone... At this point I started to do some research and reading, in the EU official site, and the others, found this forum. Started reading a lot of stuff, seeing some videos, and getting into the RCE concept again.
I'm playing it, and will continue playing it because I like playing games, and usually like those games that can provide me with entertainment that can last long. I love to build my character, and to feel that it takes some effort to do so. The concept of a RCE was definitely the thing tilted the balance though. The concept that every action that you perform cost money, and has the potential of providing returns also, is just amazing for me. I feel like this game can provide endless entertainment, and the RCE it's just perfect to make this "long-to-master-game" even better and more appealing to me.
I know that not all noobs under the Sun are made equal, so... my point of view and experience might just be only a minority. But I personally feel that this game is not for everyone, and that the players that survive the noob phase, the first months or maybe the first years, do so because they like the general idea and concept of the game, even if there are some bugs or issues. Although there are a lot of things that can be done and improved, I think that for playing the game for a long time, you just need to like the general concept of it. You are not going to stick years and years in EU otherwise.
That being said... and now adding a little hot comment. From my noob eyes, I guess I'm starting to understand a little bit why there are so many good and hot discussions going on in the forum (there even seems that some of you guys are long time "rivals"?):
Being this a RCE game, everyone fears to loose their hard earned PEDs! And that's perfectly fine. I have already deposited some money in the game, and I really don't want to loose any of it! I want this game now going on forever (and if I can, I want pass on my account and future fortune to my child some day!!!).
But as someone previously said... we shouldn't be putting money in here that we don't what to loose anyway. This is a game, owned by a company that can change any rules whenever they want. There's nothing we can do about it. If we like the product MA offers, we buy it. If not, we are free to go and spend our money elsewhere. Simple as that.
I hope I have not made any "Vladimir Putin" or "Barak Obama" of this game mad with the last comment (or by the freaking length of it!!! my god is really long isn't it?). I only know a few avatars, but the rest are totally unknown to me... but there seem to be some here that can make my existence in EU a real pain in the @$$!
...
Cheers,
Jay
Hello,
I'm a total noob... started playing some weeks ago. Just posting here to share my personal experience.
Regarding the tech issues, I did not have any problem when downloading nor installing the game. I have an old Intel Core2 Duo 3Ghz machine, GTX 460 graphics card, and Win7. The game runs perfectly with middle quality graphics settings. I did experienced some CTD when playing though, maybe 2 or 3. When trying to log in again, I received an error message saying something like "Your avatar is already logged in"... looked for it in the EU official FAQ, waited for 10 minutes, and I could login again. Was a little annoying, but very far of being a cause to quit playing the game.
Now regarding content, story line, understanding the game, and why I play it and plan to keep playing it...
I discovered the Project Entropia game a few years back in 2006, did try it for a few days... If I remember correctly, I had an orange suite at that time, and sweating was done with the hands and mumbling something. I was amazed at the RCE concept. But it was not the time for me to commit to the game though. Years passed, lots of games under the bridge also... and now I'm starting in Calypso again.
The first day I created my avatar (no more orange clothes... but yellow now?
), named it and started doing missions for that Yoshida guy. I was pretty entertained right from the start. I was receiving stuff, and didn't have to pay anything! The game felt good and really better that my old experience. At this point was thinking if the sweating thing have been gone... At this point I started to do some research and reading, in the EU official site, and the others, found this forum. Started reading a lot of stuff, seeing some videos, and getting into the RCE concept again.I'm playing it, and will continue playing it because I like playing games, and usually like those games that can provide me with entertainment that can last long. I love to build my character, and to feel that it takes some effort to do so. The concept of a RCE was definitely the thing tilted the balance though. The concept that every action that you perform cost money, and has the potential of providing returns also, is just amazing for me. I feel like this game can provide endless entertainment, and the RCE it's just perfect to make this "long-to-master-game" even better and more appealing to me.
I know that not all noobs under the Sun are made equal, so... my point of view and experience might just be only a minority. But I personally feel that this game is not for everyone, and that the players that survive the noob phase, the first months or maybe the first years, do so because they like the general idea and concept of the game, even if there are some bugs or issues. Although there are a lot of things that can be done and improved, I think that for playing the game for a long time, you just need to like the general concept of it. You are not going to stick years and years in EU otherwise.
That being said... and now adding a little hot comment. From my noob eyes, I guess I'm starting to understand a little bit why there are so many good and hot discussions going on in the forum (there even seems that some of you guys are long time "rivals"?):
Being this a RCE game, everyone fears to loose their hard earned PEDs! And that's perfectly fine. I have already deposited some money in the game, and I really don't want to loose any of it! I want this game now going on forever (and if I can, I want pass on my account and future fortune to my child some day!!!
).But as someone previously said... we shouldn't be putting money in here that we don't what to loose anyway. This is a game, owned by a company that can change any rules whenever they want. There's nothing we can do about it. If we like the product MA offers, we buy it. If not, we are free to go and spend our money elsewhere. Simple as that.
I hope I have not made any "Vladimir Putin" or "Barak Obama" of this game mad with the last comment (or by the freaking length of it!!! my god is really long isn't it?). I only know a few avatars, but the rest are totally unknown to me... but there seem to be some here that can make my existence in EU a real pain in the @$$!
...Cheers,
Jay
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What? Can you use common English please? So WHAT did you do at creative site for MA? I guess nothing. You should leave this forum instead of me. But I will soon, believe me
Will you just fuck off. You contribute nothing, in fact, all I've heard is "my sister, my sister". Secondly, that is common English, thanks.
I'm not going to go through a list of all the things I've contributed over 12 years here. Additionally, if you don't know Rei and his achievements, it shows you're not actually as engaged in the game as you would attempt to have everyone believe. I've tried my hardest not to get drawn into a flame fest but apparently you're hellbent on it.
So once again, just fuck off.
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Welcome to this cruel world. Just skill 5-8 years (~level 87 of your favorite), buy serious equipment for ~50k PED and get 95% return from your hunts. Sound that good to you?
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Yep, it does to me, and it does to lots of people playing the game and enjoying themselves.
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ROFL! We all sucked this for many years. No wonder if newcomers don't like it an give up. At least hardcore folks like me gave up as well.
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Free mini game perhaps?
Or maybe just a place that gives free money in small quantities but includes most things like mining or hunting.
I mean I'm sure MA could spare a few thousand for a small playground.
Or maybe just a place that gives free money in small quantities but includes most things like mining or hunting.
I mean I'm sure MA could spare a few thousand for a small playground.
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While MA is giving out cash, I could use a new Porsche. You know, because people with money should be obligated to just give it away.
For or those who missed sarcasm class 101, I was only being facetious.
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And what's the problem with investing for potential growth?
Businesses do that all the time. What do you think all those coupons and events add up to? More than what I asked for that's for sure.
Free to play games have been doing this for a while now. Hell even the casinos I go to will occasionally give me a 20 or two in freeplay. And I certainly don't get that in this game even after the couple thousand I played here.
Businesses do that all the time. What do you think all those coupons and events add up to? More than what I asked for that's for sure.
Free to play games have been doing this for a while now. Hell even the casinos I go to will occasionally give me a 20 or two in freeplay. And I certainly don't get that in this game even after the couple thousand I played here.
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If your suggesting that this game and others are the same, that may be why you think that. Although coupons for for play time is an attraction and desire able, I don't think in an RCE game it would work.
Also liking this game and a casino is where most people make a common mistake. This game is a service with an investment bonus rapped into 1. Once you buy ped (tokens if you will) it's gone, until it's converted back and in your hands, and not a moment sooner.
There are no odds. People often misunderstand that, and think MA owes them something more because they through hundreds, even thousands of dollars at it. Basically, don't spend more then your willing to lose. Nothing in Entropia is guaranteed. Play at your own risk, use your brain, and self control. The majority fail the last one!
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If your suggesting that this game and others are the same, that may be why you think that. Although coupons for for play time is an attraction and desire able, I don't think in an RCE game it would work.
Also liking this game and a casino is where most people make a common mistake. This game is a service with an investment bonus rapped into 1. Once you buy ped (tokens if you will) it's gone, until it's converted back and in your hands, and not a moment sooner.
Nothing in Entropia is guaranteed. Play at your own risk, use your brain, and self control. The majority fail the last one!
Well someone's a smug self-serving ass.
Look bitch, this isn't an argument about what EU is or is not. But just because you don't think it's not a good idea doesn't mean it isn't. You just don't want the value of your ped to go down. That's all it basically boils down to. In which case, go invest in the dollar. You money grubbing banker.
instead if taking 5 to 10 percent or more poeple loose every day i can cycle 500 ped to 1k ped per hour loosing 50 to 100 ped so i can loose 100 dollars us in just a few hours that a bit to much
if they had it you lost alot less 1 to 2 percent maybe there would be more players playing
the problem whit this game is tooo many poeple want to make money or thing its a investment
they advertise it you can make money but you can only make money if you dont play the only way you have to buy and sell
if they had it you lost alot less 1 to 2 percent maybe there would be more players playing
the problem whit this game is tooo many poeple want to make money or thing its a investment
they advertise it you can make money but you can only make money if you dont play the only way you have to buy and sell
Hmm I haven't had the pleasure of all this bsod, ctd's and any other things like before mentioned in EU. Maybe I'm more skilled at my computer then most?
i guess u are one of their favorites then.. i get crashes still everytime theres more than 10 players in the radar.. with 100% chance when someone flies a vehicle.. it even happens when im out of nowhere and suddenly 1 guy flies a vehicle on the radar..
currently one long time player and friend of mine has problems with the game because he gets disconnect after less than 5min.. everytime.. multible supports and repairs.. and nothing helps..
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Those who have these problems are in the minority. I'm not saying it's not a problem, but most don't have these issues.
Having an up to date computer without funky equipment helps, I'm sure. Also, do the client repair after every VU. It would be nice if we had a list of known configurations that cause problems, so people know what not to buy in order to run EU.