Ok,
I kinda feel obligated to say something here.
I am a big proponent on Both Shared Loot and Soloing either shared or non shared.
I have in the past run around with a blob of people in shared as well as solo'd
I have ask people nicely until blue in the face when I want to solo to not shoot. 97% of the time they act as though they don't hear me and shoot anyway. There is that small % that say oh sorry no problem. and ofc those the larger % that says this is shared loot ill shoot if I want. (mind you there is no solo spawn non shared).
I have been nice and after being nice for a very long time I have gotten rude and abrupt before as well.
I have moved within the area before and have had people follow me (WTF). I once had someone follow me all over the spawn for damn near an hour. I then just said fuck it and logged off.
Now, this is what I wanna point out. Everyone automatically wants to say its greed that drives people to want to solo the mobs and not shared.
In my opinion, its not a matter of greed, its a matter of survival and pure statistics.
If I have been shooting solo for 12hr and losing and losing and losing, statistically it will drop eventually and I will get back some or all of my losses. If a new variable come into the equation, a number of things can happen.
things could not change
an item can drop goes to 1 of the 2 or more shooting now
a hof with no items even splits based on dmg
in my experience im at a disadvantage when hunting with high dps ( my gun apparently does not like to loot L items at all when shooting teamed shared)(it goes to the other person or persons) Not sure why that it, but knowing that is how I base whether I want to shoot with others or not.
Perfect example, last night I went and did the shared run with Taco's team. I am the highest dps. many items were looted, I did get exactly 0 items. While I knew this was the risk, I chose to do that after cycling 1000 ped I stopped and went to bed at a nice 48% return on ammo, nothing for decay. I had fun but at a very high cost.
So when im grinding for hours solo and have a huge loss, I surely do not want to share the payback I am hoping comes, the loss was mine all that time, shouldn't the payback be mine as well? The dynamic would be much different if you or anyone else were giving me peds to play with when I have lost all I had but because your obviously not gonna do that. I have to grind in a fashion that will allow me to get some peds back, and items L or UL or a huge hof that finally drops that would cover some or all of that loss going to someone who just popped in and took pop shots is not the way for that to work.
I have seen Shared loot give an opallo shooter a full ESI in the big groups, as well as big UL stuff when they have cycled next to nothing and there are 40 people there that have been shooting for hours at a huge deficit.
I have also hit a large uber all tt on a shared 6k ped it was and someone took pop shots with an opalo and walked away with about 500ped. Does that sound right?
So now I will address the below comments.
And you don´t want to share that good loots, with players that don´t have the skills, gear, money to solo BB. So the moral of your statements are those that have should provide for those that have not or make up for their shortcomings? I wont say that's right or wrong but I will ask if that's the case what the purpose of skilling up and getting better gear is?????????????????????????
So all you noobs piss off, go hunt snables young untill you have a armor that cost +10k (Full Set), a weapon that cost +5k, and FAP that cost +10k.
But go to hell and let me loot all that nice uL items, the nice markups and Gazz and anything else from that big bulk, becaue you "NOOB" don´t deserve any "GOOD LOOT" This is a bit of a rant, that im commenting on but ok, its like this, if you know that it costs that kinda money to loot good as you say, then you for damn certain know your mooching on others money to try to obtain that which you couldn't on your own. Everyone wants to be on top at the beginning, take the time to go thru the stages gear up as you can and evis gen 1 or 2 is no super uber mob but damn sure dropps uber RX armor and L4, now u have more expensive gear. see how it works?
Thats seems to be exactly what you said, just choosen a few other words
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thats just selfish egoism!
Read my first reply and learn what happens if BB would be non shared, I already experienced that.
As said in my last post, we could have killed BB, but we couldn´t because UBERs always outdamaged us on them.When I was a much newer player this happened to me often as well, I know it sucks. What it did was make me want to get better, get a bigger team and better shit and ensure it doesn't happen again, so now when I solo, there be about 5 people in game that can out dps me so I need not worry about that, because what goes around comes around. Can everyone do that, no. Can they try, yes.
I give a shit about all your UBERNESS.
Most of the items that made them UBERs don´t drop anymore, so how someone should get into range of UBERNESS?
Even if something of it drops every here and then, it drops from event mobs, why we "NOOB" should acceppt (sorry have the etiquette) to let you UBERs loot all of it and then pay the insane markups to you UBERs to get it for us? This is simply a bullshit statement, the only things not dropping are mod and imp faps, the unique items, mm and imk's, shadow, supr, sentinel, vain, angel all still drop and from many things other than shared mobs
Edit:
Sidenote:
Actually I totally agree to JCs OP, it could be done in a nice way if there is enough people joining the fun, but if not enough (so called noobs) stick together I see it as fair enough if a few of them join into a solo hunters fight to get their share anyways.
Other sidenote:
If low player wants to join the fun of BB loot, but he has not the skills/gear and no team with the abiliity to kill a BB (choose to shoot beside an UBER soloing them). It could be considered bad etiquette if the UBER stops shooting in order to let this noob die. This noob rely on your skills and UBERNESS, and that you have the abillity to tank that mob. And you leave him alone. You are really nice guy!
You would say its bad that I don't protect them and ensure they can do that which they obviously cannot do alone. I am not their parent, I have no responcibility to do that. For a person, noob, uber whatever level to come over and shoot with no armor, no fap, take no decay and have the same chanse of getting items is leeching. IF they were doing roughly the same dps and taking decay where the LOSS is shared it wouldn't be so bad.