Info: Time for another 90% tt Returns thread

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As I have done before (a long time ago), i think it is time for another TT returns tracker in mining.

Loot has changed a lot since April 2014. So this seems like a good opportunity to see if there are any differences .

My biggest loot recently was 1500 pedder, some time ago. And i have not had a tower in a long time, so this feels right to do it around now.


I will be using:


  • Ziplex vrx3k or terramaster 8
  • Unamped
  • No double bombing
  • Mainly in taxed LA's

I will be including Extractor costs, and excluding defensive costs eg armor and/or fap, if i get attacked by mobs

Now cause i will be mining in taxed areas i expect my tt return % to be approx 85-90% to account for the 5% tax.

I will be doing runs mainly of 300-600 bombs each.
With no end date or total number of bombs set.

Rgds

Ace

EDIT: all posts are welcome here! Even ones like "i told you so Ace", when/if i get horrible returns

Competition is now CLOSED

x = ped card + current bombs in inventory + Ores currently being sold in auction + ores in storage + spare limited finder in storage (Which is either VRX3K or TerraMaster 8).

People can guess "x" as many times as they like, but the last guess will be the one that counts.

Finish date: 19th November midnight.

Prize 100 Ped

(See post #98 for more details)
(No society votes, sorry, trying to be fair)

WINNER NOR ALIEN, actual "x" was 1900


Link to first 90% tt returns thread i did, some fantastic info provided by other avatars....not sure hw much is still relevant.
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...79-Project-TT-returns-90&highlight=90%+return

EDIT2: I just thought skill gains will be interesting to show, just in that unamped they are very very slow. Starting value prospecting = 7467, mining = 7451, geo = 6420, ga = 4496, ms = 4019, miner = 4621, extr = 5445
 
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UPDATE AS OF 30/5/2015

Total Bombs: 47483
Total TT Cost: 120777
Total TT Return:
112406

Total TT Return %: 93.1%


Prospecting = 7467 -7659
Mining = 7451 - 7604
Geo = 6220 - 6388
GA= 4496 - 4614

MS = 4019 - 4167
Miner = 4621 - 4927
Extra= 5445 - 5569
Drilling Ex = 1081
*last mining unlock for me :)




Reserved for Overall Results


Total Bombs: 21465
Total TT Cost: 54519.59
Total TT Return: 50360.87
Total TT Return %: 92.4%





Cumulative TT % // Run TT %:

Run 1: 102.4% / 102.4% (unamped from here onwards)
Run 2: 78.7% / 54.7%
Run 3: 91.2% / 116.2%
Run 4: 90.2% / 87.1%
Run 5: 88.6% / 82.3%
Run 6: 85.3% / 68.7%
Run 7: 85.4% / 86.5%
Run 8: 84.3% / 76.1%
Run 9: 83.2% / 74.8%
Run 10: 81.5% / 66.3%
Run 11: 81.6% / 81.8%
Run 12: 80.5% / 68.3%
Run 13: 81.0% / 87.9%
Run 14: 81.5% / 88.1%
Run 15: 81.4% / 80.0%
Run 16: 80.4% / 64.4%
Run 17: 80.4% / 81.7%
Run 18: 79.9% / 70.0%
Run 19: 79.7% / 76.7%
Run 20: 80.0% / 86.7%
Run 21: 79.6% / 71.6%
Run 22: 79.4% / 73.9%
Run 23: 79.6% / 84.9%
Run 24: 82.7% / 152.7%
Run 25: 82.7% / 83.3%
Run 26: 93.5% / 362.8%
Run 27: 92.8% / 72.8%
Run 28: 92.8% / 93.1%
Run 29: 92.2% / 75.7%
Run 30: 91.5% / 72.3%
Run 31: 91.4% / 86.4%
Run 32: 90.4% / 60.6%
Run 33: 90.5% / 92.8%
Run 34: 88.6% / 58.8% (x1 Lv 13 Amp)
Run 35: 88.1% / 70.2%
Run 36: 87.8% / 76.4%
Run 37: 92.5% / 153.5% (lv 5 amps, from here onwards)
Run 38: 95.0% / 129.6%
Run 39: 92.2% / 50.6%
Run 40: 93.1% / 106.6%
Run 41: 92.5% / 83.0%
Run 42: 91.3% / 69.9%
Run 43: 90.5% / 75.4%
Run 44: 89.4% / 66.5%
Run 45: 94.7% / 204.6%
Run 46: 93.3% / 63.1%
Run 47: 92.7% / 77.9%
Run 48: 91.7% / 68.6%
Run 49: 91.3% / 74.0%
Run 50: 90.8% / 77.3%
Run 51: 90.9% / 93.4%
Run 52: 92.0% / 123.1%
Run 53: 91.8% / 85.7%
Run 54: 91.5% / 81.8%
Run 55: 90.8% / 70.6%
Run 56: 90.7% / 85.9%
Run 57: 90.3% / 77.9%
Run 58: 89.6% / 67.3%
Run 59: 89.1% / 77.5% (D-Class amps from here on)
Run 60: 88.3% / 70.8%
Run 61: 87.7% / 74.5%
Run 62: 87.9% / 94.7%
Run 63: 90.5% / 153.4%
Run 64: 91.1% / 106.7%
Run 65: 90.4% / 71.0%
Run 66: 89.6% / 70.5%
Run 67: 96.3% / 259.1%
Run 68: 96.0% / 90.5%
Run 69: 95.7% / 85.6%
Run 70: 94.3% / 57.9%
Run 71: 93.2% / 62.2%
Run 72: 92.4% / 66.8%





No. Of SOOTO's found:
1) Bomb no. 5640 (4 stones hans)





Starting Skills:
Prospecting = 7467
Mining = 7451
Geo = 6220
GA= 4496
MS = 4019
Miner = 4621
Extra= 5445






After 10k bombs unamped:
Prospecting = 7467 - 7482.9
Mining = 7451 - 7465.4
Geo = 6220 - 6255.5
GA= 4496 - 4507.6
MS = 4019 - 4031.0
Miner = 4621 - 4646.2
Extra= 5445 - 5459.6





Cumulative TT returns Graph:






COMPETITION GUESSES:

Harmony: 4444
whiteknut: 5000
Salo: 8000
sitram: 4100
jqkill: 6500
shoti: 10000
WhiningSkeptic: 6600
Leaf Arwen: 7886
MPZ: 8200
Mega: 9250
BBpunisher: 3400
Nor Alien: 2500
Andy86: 6000
brood: 10200
Laurent: 16666
Norbet: 12800
Toprez: 25500
Angbu: 14444
sawachika: 30000
Haruto Rat: 9709
Legion: 12500





Rgds

Ace
 
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1. Subscribing

2. Your thread title will cause a massive shit storm

3. GLHF
 
So nickles and dimes.

Just my 2pec.

Rgds.

4400.
 
What are nickles and dimes?

Rgds

Ace


The value of the amount of ped u use.

Should i even keep replying to someone who is in the minor league?

Just too funny.

Do u know what tracker is... look it up... one day u might get a spot on there...

still too funny.
 
The value of the amount of ped u use.

Should i even keep replying to someone who is in the minor league?

And exactly what does that have to do with a long term mining tt returns thread???

Rgds

Ace
 
The value of the amount of ped u use.

Should i even keep replying to someone who is in the minor league?

Just too funny.

Do u know what tracker is... look it up... one day u might get a spot on there...

still too funny.

Do you really believe skilling up to be able to use the vrx3k is minor leagues?????

You really are on your own little planet

Rgds

Ace
 
And exactly what does that have to do with a long term mining tt returns thread???

Rgds

Ace

Nothing, just keep on dropping and keep believing your words have any value :)
 
The value of the amount of ped u use.

Should i even keep replying to someone who is in the minor league?

Just too funny.

Do u know what tracker is... look it up... one day u might get a spot on there...

still too funny.

Wow someone who thinks tracker matters.....wow that explains all of your arguments.

Please feel free to never watch this thread or reply to anything in it again....really really i will not mind.

Rgds

Ace
 
Do you really believe skilling up to be able to use the vrx3k is minor leagues?????

You really are on your own little planet

Rgds

Ace

I consider 300-600 ped runs minor lol, if u don't good for you, keep on dropping. :)
 
Wow someone who thinks tracker matters.....wow that explains all of your arguments.

Please feel free to never watch this thread or reply to anything in it again....really really i will not mind.

Rgds

Ace

No i was kinda hoping u had some value behind your name regarding loot wise, just me being hopefull, glad u burst that bubble.
 
I consider 300-600 ped runs minor lol, if u don't good for you, keep on dropping. :)

Hehe, your arguments get even worse.....what on earth does size of the run matter.....for a tt returns thread smaller is much better.

Rgds

Ace

EDIT: i really will stop replying now :)
 
Hehe, your arguments get even worse.....what on earth does size of the run matter.....for a tt returns thread smaller is much better.

Rgds

Ace

EDIT: i really will stop replying now :)


Yeah i should stop too, this is just too funny. :)
 
You both, Ace&Shaman - stop this shit and go decay, biatchez!
 
I will be following this. Subscribed.
 
Good luck, Ace! Will be very interesting to see. TT return has always been a hot topic. Awesome with people taking their time contributing to the community like this.


The value of the amount of ped u use.

Should i even keep replying to someone who is in the minor league?

Just too funny.

Do u know what tracker is... look it up... one day u might get a spot on there...

still too funny.
Shaman, it is a tt returns log, obviously what is interesting is number of drops.

Judging by your posts you most likely don't get it but you are the one that people laugh at when reading this thread. Pretty much worst example of e-penis boasting I have ever seen. Cockier than most for virtually no reason. How much brains is really needed for having a lot of globals on the tracker? Everyone can do that.

Turning to a virtual universe to seek confirmation is sorry by itself. Also failing miserably trying while still sporting a king-of-the-world attitude, that's just another level. Pitiful.
 
Lol no runs completed and already everyone on fire. If you get roughly 90% returns you will be burned by one side, if you get 70% you will told you are stupid noob miner by the other side.

"You are screwed if you do and screwed if you dont" by Bart Simpson
 
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Good luck, Ace! Will be very interesting to see. TT return has always been a hot topic. Awesome with people taking their time contributing to the community like this.



Shaman, it is a tt returns log, obviously what is interesting is number of drops.

Judging by your posts you most likely don't get it but you are the one that people laugh at when reading this thread. Pretty much worst example of e-penis boasting I have ever seen. Cockier than most for virtually no reason. How much brains is really needed for having a lot of globals on the tracker? Everyone can do that.

Turning to a virtual universe to seek confirmation is sorry by itself. Also failing miserably trying while still sporting a king-of-the-world attitude, that's just another level. Pitiful.

How about reading the book instead of just the cover, has this been the only thread Ace and me have been communicating?
I am not here for any boasting e-penis satisfactory fyi, or whatever you wanna call it.
Ps. do not forget u need the bankroll to achieve allot of globals the way i do, everyone can do that? :)
 
How about reading the book instead of just the cover, has this been the only thread Ace and me have been communicating?
I am not here for any boasting e-penis satisfactory fyi, or whatever you wanna call it.
Ps. do not forget u need the bankroll to achieve allot of globals the way i do, everyone can do that? :)

this game is very much brains vs. money
Without idiots with too much money, those with brains wouldn't be able to profit as much :)
(no offense to those who have both ofc)
 
this game is very much brains vs. money
Without idiots with too much money, those with brains wouldn't be able to profit as much :)
(no offense to those who have both ofc)

Lets see what this game is about, is anything certain while going for a hunt/craft or dropping a bomb? And i am talking about actually playing the game, not trading or all that other stuff.

Lets take mining, you drop a bomb, you will either find a claim or you won't simple as that, it's up to your bankroll if u can amp it or not, but is the person using the amp considered brain dead if he gets no return on that amp? How much braincells would one need to understand that.

I could go into trading and stop playing the game all together, and make some ped but i guess we have people like you for that?

ps. best u go sell another faulty deed to earn your ped.
 
Lets see what this game is about, is anything certain while going for a hunt/craft or dropping a bomb? And i am talking about actually playing the game, not trading or all that other stuff.

Lets take mining, you drop a bomb, you will either find a claim or you won't simple as that, it's up to your bankroll if u can amp it or not, but is the person using the amp considered brain dead if he gets no return on that amp? How much braincells would one need to understand that.

I could go into trading and stop playing the game all together, and make some ped but i guess we have people like you for that?

ps. best u go sell another faulty deed to earn your ped.

Random bombing using amps = Gambling
Bombing fields with high MU resources using amps = Using brain

That's the difference, and I think you know it too :)
 
Random bombing using amps = Gambling
Bombing fields with high MU resources using amps = Using brain

That's the difference, and I think you know it too :)

Have you been foma, know what resources they have?

I can tell you the logic as why one should mine Foma or Hell but it would be too much for you to comprehend, so i wont.
 
Have you been foma, know what resources they have?

I can tell you the logic as why one should mine Foma or Hell but it would be too much for you to comprehend, so i wont.

Please enlighten me, why wouldn't I comprehend!?

I can understand detailed studies of far more complex matters than mining inside a video game. Neither have I really been harsh towards you so I don't get the attitude.
 
Kind of funny... people thumping their chest as if their way of pulling the handle on a slot machine is somehow better than everyone else's.
 
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