Mindark Official Prophet at Twins (Amps and CLD's questions)

Lorthis · Nov 26, 2014

Yea look at the screenshot, he totally denied it lol, but OP left it out... how lame

Guarana · Nov 26, 2014

I would rather put my finger on people buying quantities of CLDs then logging off for a year. (Know few who does this)

Correct way to play EU atm is (if u want to spend money)

Create ava - Depo - Buy CLD - Log off - Log on in 365 days or more - Check out investment - Log off - Log inn 365 days later again - Repeat

Colbey Kal · Nov 26, 2014

JohnCapital said:
Frankly, the info about the melee amps was real cool of him to give us. Gee, sure would have been nice to get more good info.

Is there anyplace I can read the whole transcript?

Thanks!

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

Colbey Kal said:
Is there anyplace I can read the whole transcript?

Thanks!

I have it logged if you wish.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

Thark said:
Hey,

I didn't read the thread.

Did you leave out the part where he says he can officially deny it on purpose? You prolly missed it, as it was in between the lines you highlighted.

Here is the screenshot.

PS: Thanks Serica for making my picture clickable

See it now, thanks. I must have miss it as I was leaving that time. I doub't I read "can" , as "can't" or was biased enough after that 15 min to do so, this is oficial deny. Seems i got what i wanted. Still Prophet was defying quite long to admit that.

Lorthis said:
Yea look at the screenshot, he totally denied it lol, but OP left it out... how lame

...not so totaly if most interested person there missed it

. But it's there indeed. I was leaving place with conviction of not geting clear answer and compacted chat later for forum purposes. Mea culpa...

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

Colbey Kal said:
Is there anyplace I can read the whole transcript?

Thanks!

I have it logged if you wish.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

HardWrath said:
Regarding the CLDs, their rise in value, and accusations that MindArk is buying them up.

I am not one of the people who think that MA is buying up CLD

Anything is possible but MA is a bit smarter than that because right now the CLD value is up near another peak, and MindArk, at least if I were them and wanted to buy back CLD, i would be doing it when the values are low and not high.

[...]

I think you confusing here cause and effect. Hi CLD's price is rather effect of low amount of them aviable rather than some miracle thing that they are worth much more now. There was no new annual report, CLD's income didnt rise , and anything else which migh be explanation for higher price other than low supply.

AxeMurderer · Nov 26, 2014

shoti said:
I think you confusing here cause and effect. Hi CLD's price is rather effect of low amount of them aviable rather than some miracle thing that they are worth much more now. There was no new annual report, CLD's income didnt rise , and anything else which migh be explanation for higher price other than low supply.

well the price is rising based on low amount for the last 3 years, so you are right

GeorgeSkywalker · Nov 26, 2014

shoti said:
I have it logged if you wish.

Could you please post whole unedited log? or pm me thanks

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

JohnCapital said:
Holy crap, Shoti, this is real low of you.

Just because CLD prices went up and available quantities went down, you come up with some cockamamie theory of MA buying back in secret?

And then when you have a real Mindark Official available, you start hounding him about this. And no matter what what he says, you "narrate" it into your conspiracy theory. He could have said "yes", "no" or "kiss my ass" and you would have said "yeah well that's exactly what you would say in order to try to cover up your actions".

And then Thark comes along with this post (#44 in this thread), proving that you "conveniently left out the part where he made an official denial.

I compared his screen shot with your 1st post. Seems you somehow skipped it. Here, let me show you where.

I bet you saw that comment of his quite clearly, as you were pasting your OP together. But I guess that part just didn't fit in your "narrative" so you skipped it, didn't you?

And then when the evidence is shown, you intentionally ignore it. I know damned well you saw Thark's post.

His post was at 10:42 my time

Your next post right after that, at 11:03

The forum says your last activity was 11:46, an hour after that post.

Don't tell me you didn't see it. I know damned well you didn't. And that you replied to so many others, but ignored that one tells me you are hiding from Truth.

The one thing that pisses me off more than anything is people who intentionally lie in order to push their agenda. Here's a hint, detective: If you are truly in the right, there is NO reason, None, Zero, for you to have to intentionally twist things and lie. That you twisted things prove you are simply trying to push an agenda and are wiling to misrepresent to do that.

Frankly, the info about the melee amps was real cool of him to give us. Gee, sure would have been nice to get more good info. If only someone didn't hound him trying to prove their conspiracies.

Just because you tricked your family to give you tons of money to play (and lose) with, doesn't mean MA's trying to cheat you, man.

Yes. Already 3 person showed me that. You think I would be making idiot of myself by INTENTIONALLY skiping it ?

My thoeory about MA buying CLD's is few months old already. This is not 1st time I am writing about this, just ppl seems more interested in details this time. That's why I used oportunity of asking that question to MA. And as my 2nd post here shows I wanted to get was clear answer. It's of course my faul I missed it after geting few times in a row PR polished crap.

I am not kind of conspiracy freak when some facts are against his theory so that not so good for facts.
I admit that MA denial indeed weakening this idea. Thats why I insisted on clear answer. Is person who not willing to get straight answer asking for "simple yes or no..withiut PR BS like "i am not aware"or smt ? " ?

Real low is making general conclusions about some idea out of obvious mistake or oversight. No...it's MA fanboism.

OZtwo · Nov 26, 2014

shoti said:
See it now, thanks. I must have miss it as I was leaving that time. I doub't I read "can" , as "can't" or was biased enough after that 15 min to do so, this is oficial deny. Seems i got what i wanted. Still Prophet was defying quite long to admit that.

Oh please

You want us to believe that you had to copy and format it for your original post and just happen to overlook that little bit of information?

Anyway to feed your conspiracy MA will not be buying back the CLDs anytime soon. Maybe if they ever sink below 1000ped. Since the CLDs have been paying out so little each week it wouldn't be in MA's best interest to buy them back due to the money they would lose which would be well over 2 million whereas that 2million in deed payouts will last for ages all the while bring in new players with their hopes and dreams of buying to then resale to others over and over again keeping the game somewhat interesting.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

GeorgeSkywalker said:
Could you please post whole unedited log? or pm me thanks

sure, check PM

014-11-25 09:31:07 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Aadu, Post a support case, Support is at the moment working on a way to solve this.
2014-11-25 09:31:15 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] can skip level 0-20 if you got patience
2014-11-25 09:31:18 [Local] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] already done that
2014-11-25 09:31:28 [Rookie] [MJ Bodhisatva Tibor] anything interesting on jennifer's island?
2014-11-25 09:31:34 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Omegaton Fast Aid FAP-110], 18.3 hp/sec, no level requirement ~ Get it hundreds of peds cheaper than MU at TP!
2014-11-25 09:31:43 [Rookie] [Drakkus Cowderp Oberon] well atm i mainly just want to go positive a bit so i can actualy gain ammo
2014-11-25 09:31:45 [Trade] [Tomhey Tomhey Posakey] buying [Animal Muscle Oil]; [Garcen Lubricant]
2014-11-25 09:31:57 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling colored/textured [Chili Sombrero (M,C)] for only TT+60PEDs at TP!
2014-11-25 09:31:59 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] [Vixen Android Gear] =P
2014-11-25 09:32:02 [Globals] [] Seynomore Sinovious Nudgewink manufactured an item (Simple II Plastic Ruds) worth 50 PED!
2014-11-25 09:32:07 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] BUYING ESI & SKILL IMPLANTS OF ALL PROFESSIONS ~ NOVA FRAGMENT 1PEC/200 ~ BLAZAR FRAGMENT 10PEC/100 ~ BEST RATES AT TP!
2014-11-25 09:32:07 [Rookie] [Drakkus Cowderp Oberon] yeah
2014-11-25 09:32:09 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Then you will certeincly recieve an reply and solution soon

2014-11-25 09:32:13 [Rookie] [Drakkus Cowderp Oberon] but i cant get to rocktopia atm
2014-11-25 09:32:24 [Globals] [] Wolf Curd Fleischer found a deposit (Lysterium Stone) with a value of 58 PED at F.O.M.A. -- Fortuna!!
2014-11-25 09:32:25 [Local] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] if with solution, then good
2014-11-25 09:32:33 [Local] [Petrus PM Molinos] Mindark Prohet, when I look at your achievements, I see a group called "Headjack". What is that?
2014-11-25 09:32:40 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] They will come up with something
2014-11-25 09:32:54 [Trade] [Nexa Francesca Demonia] sell my outfit for 100 ped
2014-11-25 09:33:25 [System] [] Lucky Akbar Sylphe has joined the Entropia Universe.
2014-11-25 09:33:25 [Rookie] [Ari AriK Bor] is [Finder F-101] better then [Omegaton Detectonator MD-1 (L)]?
2014-11-25 09:33:51 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] can't really compare those
2014-11-25 09:33:57 [Local] [Lacynda LCOX Cox] so what about this new update ? ment to help us ?
2014-11-25 09:34:00 [Rookie] [Chukano WrenchCrowbar Crowbar] hey Ridge

2014-11-25 09:34:01 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] for example f101 uses 10x more probes per click
2014-11-25 09:34:08 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] tt finder is what you use when you're joking around
2014-11-25 09:34:10 [Rookie] [Chukano WrenchCrowbar Crowbar] also more depth
2014-11-25 09:34:14 [Rookie] [SpikE SpikE Odets] its strange you can't get a reg finder from tt at all anymore
2014-11-25 09:34:20 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] hi chukano
2014-11-25 09:34:21 [Rookie] [SpikE SpikE Odets] its only the rookie finder now
2014-11-25 09:34:30 [System] [] Jan Candydog NL has left the Entropia Universe.
2014-11-25 09:34:31 [Trade] [Light LoneWolf Dispatcher] . Offering SPACE TAXXi .
2014-11-25 09:34:37 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] yeah it is interesting
2014-11-25 09:34:38 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] its a smart decision spike
2014-11-25 09:34:43 [Rookie] [Chukano WrenchCrowbar Crowbar] yes am burning true those now

2014-11-25 09:34:48 [Rookie] [Chukano WrenchCrowbar Crowbar] through*
2014-11-25 09:35:03 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] new players that lissent to peeps like strash and instantly went mining with all peds on the normal lvl
2014-11-25 09:35:05 [Rookie] [SpikE SpikE Odets] helps crafters .. just didn't think ma would make that choice
2014-11-25 09:35:10 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] just went broke pist and gone
2014-11-25 09:35:28 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] yeah 1ped clicks are a noob killer
2014-11-25 09:35:43 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] now at least they doing it at 1/10 of cost, might protect them a biit when they start
2014-11-25 09:36:04 [Globals] [] Skelethor Skel Hadesguard killed a creature (Feffoid Outcast) with a value of 75 PED!
2014-11-25 09:36:20 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] i think i'll go rookie mining
2014-11-25 09:36:27 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] unless the noob has 10x more cash that is...
2014-11-25 09:36:30 [Globals] [] Jaco Redwolf-PL scott killed a creature (Kreltin Old) with a value of 154 PED at Crystal Palace Space Station!
2014-11-25 09:36:39 [Rookie] [Daz Daznut Nuttall] how do you know what level evade you are, mine just says 1500 able?
2014-11-25 09:36:55 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] rookei gear great to learn mining on
2014-11-25 09:36:56 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling full set of Adjusted Musca (M) Wide range of protection for affordable price ~ Get it for only TT+75 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:36:57 [Rookie] [Ari AriK Bor] so I am a lvl1 miner, so what is better to use then?
2014-11-25 09:36:57 [Rookie] [SpikE SpikE Odets] hit the Star icon on the top of yoru screen
2014-11-25 09:37:00 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Ghost Thigh Guards (M)] Set (no feet). Get to a higher level of protection, purchase this armor 20PED below AH price, for only TT+100 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:37:00 [Rookie] [SpikE SpikE Odets] thats prof levels
2014-11-25 09:37:01 [Rookie] [Drakkus Cowderp Oberon] hit the star then combat
2014-11-25 09:37:03 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Nemesis Harness (F)] Set (without shins:\)! Get this awesome armor for only TT+400 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:37:10 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] how did you get to 1500 evade before knowing how to look at professions :O
2014-11-25 09:37:20 [Globals] [] Wolf Curd Fleischer found a deposit (Dianum Ore) with a value of 67 PED at F.O.M.A. -- Fortuna!!
2014-11-25 09:37:22 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] use the tt finder if you're on low budget or newbie.
2014-11-25 09:37:26 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] Noob with 10x more cash then a regular noob? Would that be a Cash Calf?
2014-11-25 09:37:27 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] a lvl 0 finder (not sure hwat is best miningjust a side thing when it has up periode in return)
2014-11-25 09:37:27 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] What update are you speaking about?

2014-11-25 09:37:36 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] well if you're new, use the tt finder anyways...
2014-11-25 09:37:42 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] Now quite yet a Cash Cow
2014-11-25 09:37:44 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] XD
2014-11-25 09:37:52 [Local] [Lacynda LCOX Cox] universal auctions
2014-11-25 09:38:00 [System] [] Snake Slither Hellfire has left the Entropia Universe.
2014-11-25 09:38:10 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] [Punk Metal Detector (L)]
2014-11-25 09:38:13 [Local] [AC Wolfy Rockstar] i cant wait
2014-11-25 09:38:16 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] it even makes metal detector sounds, no joke
2014-11-25 09:38:18 [Rookie] [Drakkus Cowderp Oberon] moo
2014-11-25 09:38:27 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo]

2014-11-25 09:38:36 [System] [] You are not wounded.
2014-11-25 09:38:58 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] I am a Ca$h Cow MoOooOoOOooOOOooOooo...
2014-11-25 09:39:04 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 68 PED!
2014-11-25 09:39:06 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] lmao
2014-11-25 09:39:33 [Trade] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] Selling [Arkadia Underground Deed] for 45,99 ped each
2014-11-25 09:39:36 [Trade] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] Selling [Weapon Range Enhancer I] 300%
2014-11-25 09:39:39 [System] [] Pocneata Spiridusu Laurentiu has left the Entropia Universe.
2014-11-25 09:39:39 [Trade] [Nexa Francesca Demonia] sell my outfit for 100 ped
2014-11-25 09:39:44 [Globals] [] Gotto LuckyStrike Gotto killed a creature (Argonaut Young) with a value of 31 PED!
2014-11-25 09:39:46 [Trade] [Tomhey Tomhey Posakey] buying [Animal Muscle Oil]
2014-11-25 09:39:49 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Hey Prohet....everything OK with MA support ?
2014-11-25 09:39:59 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] [Shrapnel]
2014-11-25 09:40:00 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] Is there a local Cash Cows Anonymous I can join?
2014-11-25 09:40:05 [Globals] [] Talania Tal Indigo killed a creature (Atrox Mature) with a value of 76 PED!
2014-11-25 09:40:06 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] thnx tal

2014-11-25 09:40:26 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] i had a question about starter pack items
2014-11-25 09:40:28 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Everthing should be OK

2014-11-25 09:40:31 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] wel you could stil join my soc, get youre peds back again

2014-11-25 09:40:36 [Globals] [] Grummin Grummin Subuki killed a creature (Foul Adult) with a value of 11 PED!
2014-11-25 09:40:38 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] They have alot of work to solve your cases

2014-11-25 09:40:44 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] I am waiting few weeks to answer case
2014-11-25 09:40:45 [Rookie] [Daz Daznut Nuttall] thanks guys i never realised there was more than 1 page on the profs screen

2014-11-25 09:40:50 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Not yours as inj just yours but i mean everyones

2014-11-25 09:40:54 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] when you think you're tuff enuff miner get yourself one of these [Omegaton Detectonator MD-50]
2014-11-25 09:40:58 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] and be a real cash cow
2014-11-25 09:40:59 [Globals] [] Cuilwen Evey Arnold killed a creature (Foul Young) with a value of 13 PED!
2014-11-25 09:40:59 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] rof;
2014-11-25 09:41:01 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 69 PED!
2014-11-25 09:41:03 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] I don't think that would work skunk
2014-11-25 09:41:14 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] All staff from ilunova was moved to sweden ? or u have just less ppl now ????
2014-11-25 09:41:15 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] ty for listening
2014-11-25 09:41:17 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] f-105 better =P
2014-11-25 09:41:26 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] how do we get rid of the starter pack items
2014-11-25 09:41:28 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] I am using unlimited weapon atm not SIB and getting better loot then SIB

2014-11-25 09:41:30 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] a little bith of both
2014-11-25 09:41:38 [Globals] [] Catherine Cathy Gearlan killed a creature (Combibo Brood Mother) with a value of 58 PED!
2014-11-25 09:41:38 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] like our founder ( my mentor )
2014-11-25 09:41:41 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 69 PED!
2014-11-25 09:41:42 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] I know it doesn't work well for average loots.
2014-11-25 09:41:43 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] f105 eco sucks
2014-11-25 09:41:48 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] If you just want to "remove" the item then just sell them for free to the TT
2014-11-25 09:41:52 [Local] [AC Wolfy Rockstar] yea the armor from starter pack dont want it anymore
2014-11-25 09:41:54 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] never paid much attention to finder decay
2014-11-25 09:41:59 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] seemed negligible
2014-11-25 09:41:59 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] But I only do good when I can global.
2014-11-25 09:42:01 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] you cant it wont let you
2014-11-25 09:42:04 [Globals] [] Wolf Curd Fleischer found a deposit (Ganganite Stone) with a value of 66 PED at F.O.M.A. -- Fortuna!!
2014-11-25 09:42:21 [Globals] [] Lilla Snusmumriken Mumindal found a deposit (Belkar Stone) with a value of 62 PED!
2014-11-25 09:42:22 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] when you drop 2000 probes a day, eco starts to matter
2014-11-25 09:42:25 [Globals] [] Team "POOR, FAT & SWEATY PIXIE MEN" killed a creature (Ambulimax Young) with a value of 59 PED at Nea's Place!
2014-11-25 09:42:29 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] wel keep a eye on loot this week, global week not far of
2014-11-25 09:42:29 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] Doing bad on average creates chance for global.....
2014-11-25 09:42:31 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] So you came here for Q&A session prophet ?
2014-11-25 09:42:36 [Globals] [] Wolf Curd Fleischer found a deposit (Lysterium Stone) with a value of 66 PED at F.O.M.A. -- Fortuna!!
2014-11-25 09:42:38 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] wouldnt let me anyway
2014-11-25 09:42:38 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] no not really
2014-11-25 09:42:40 [Globals] [] Martin the Hope killed a creature (Ambulimax Young) with a value of 69 PED at Nea's Place!
2014-11-25 09:42:48 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] Always has for me
2014-11-25 09:42:50 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] for some casual drops, you're right. it will be next to negligible
2014-11-25 09:42:51 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] had many really nice once all dropped in the best loot periods
2014-11-25 09:42:53 [Rookie] [Drakkus Cowderp Oberon] is it worth it trying to make finder amplifiers?
2014-11-25 09:43:03 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] Decent average means no mini globs
2014-11-25 09:43:04 [System] [] Frederichio Fredda Lucerno has joined the Entropia Universe.
2014-11-25 09:43:04 [Local] [AC Wolfy Rockstar] no cant tt it
2014-11-25 09:43:05 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Hehe sort of

2014-11-25 09:43:13 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] nad loot periode like last week i did trox 5 globals just above brake even
2014-11-25 09:43:13 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] or globals for me
2014-11-25 09:43:23 [Trade] [Nexa Francesca Demonia] sell my outfit for 100 ped
2014-11-25 09:43:26 [System] [] Maximus Alive GoodEvil has joined the Entropia Universe.
2014-11-25 09:43:28 [Local] [AC Wolfy Rockstar] cant drop it or trade it
2014-11-25 09:43:35 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] So what u doing for MA ?
2014-11-25 09:43:41 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 65 PED!
2014-11-25 09:43:47 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] if it was good loot day i had same amount of globals but with a mob like torx thats ususally around 200-400 ped profit
2014-11-25 09:43:53 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Dominax Original Rattlesnake] (tier level 2.8) for only TT+300! ~ Get a better deal than AH at TP!
2014-11-25 09:43:55 [Globals] [] Ivan Mad Mad11 killed a creature (Marcimex Weak) with a value of 118 PED!
2014-11-25 09:43:56 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] I have tried and tried and I always seem to do better on Atrox when using unlimited non sib weapons.
2014-11-25 09:43:56 [System] [] Entropia Universe time: 2014-11-25 09:43:54
2014-11-25 09:43:56 [System] [] Session time: 00:13:00
2014-11-25 09:44:06 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] prophecy
2014-11-25 09:44:13 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] U seems like bored by morning coffe prophet

2014-11-25 09:44:15 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I am doing a couple of stuff, mostly this

2014-11-25 09:44:18 [Rookie] [Jellyan Shadyone Enoydahs] is mining a good way to earn ped
2014-11-25 09:44:25 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Lacerating Attack Nanochip I] for TT+200 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:44:31 [Globals] [] Nikki Honey Smith killed a creature (Kerberos Old) with a value of 30 PED!
2014-11-25 09:44:31 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] yes
2014-11-25 09:44:33 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] I have hunted them enough to see I simply can't afford to hunt Atrox in SIB limited
2014-11-25 09:44:37 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Omegaton Fast Aid FAP-110], 18.3 hp/sec, no level requirement ~ Get it hundreds of peds cheaper than MU at TP!
2014-11-25 09:44:40 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling colored/textured [Chili Sombrero (M,C)] for only TT+60PEDs at TP!
2014-11-25 09:44:42 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] it's also a perfect way to lose a lot of peds
2014-11-25 09:44:43 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] prophet, it seems you cant tt starter pack items. it wont let you sell them
2014-11-25 09:44:45 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 68 PED!
2014-11-25 09:44:50 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] BUYING ESI & SKILL IMPLANTS OF ALL PROFESSIONS ~ NOVA FRAGMENT 1PEC/200 ~ BLAZAR FRAGMENT 10PEC/100 ~ BEST RATES AT TP!
2014-11-25 09:44:52 [Rookie] [Jellyan Shadyone Enoydahs] mm
2014-11-25 09:44:54 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] Onlly SIB unlimted I have is Melee and that has too much ups and downs.
2014-11-25 09:44:55 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Sorry if i dont have time to answer all of your questions, just try again and il answer what i can read

2014-11-25 09:45:01 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Gladly hear answer on wolfy wuestion..also have few items i want ged rid off
2014-11-25 09:45:04 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 09:45:06 [Globals] [] Jenka Maiden Deluxe killed a creature (Eviscerator Generation 1) with a value of 146 PED!
2014-11-25 09:45:07 [Rookie] [Jellyan Shadyone Enoydahs] I just made 0.22 out of 2 probes but sometimes I use like 5 probes in a row and get nothing
2014-11-25 09:45:07 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] I don't have same problem on other mobs.
2014-11-25 09:45:11 [Rookie] [Talania Tal Indigo] Just Atrox
2014-11-25 09:45:16 [Globals] [] Sun Shine Belle found a deposit (Narcanisum Stone) with a value of 1244 PED! A record has been added to the Hall of Fame.
2014-11-25 09:45:20 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] yeah but that becausse of trox itself
2014-11-25 09:45:21 [Rookie] [billakos Billis Karagiannis] if i die i lose anything ?
2014-11-25 09:45:24 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 09:45:26 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Why u just dont make all thing able to put in TT ?
2014-11-25 09:45:26 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] that is normal. the loot varies a lot
2014-11-25 09:45:30 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] its prioolly most swingy mob in game
2014-11-25 09:45:45 [Trade] [the Barnesy 1997] Selling 3[GYRO FAP-2 (L)] at 5.4P each, PM me ASAP for deals or info

2014-11-25 09:45:49 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] low treshhold any noob can do it really fast
2014-11-25 09:45:52 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 63 PED!
2014-11-25 09:45:56 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Hmm seems odd, well if you cant sell it we would recommend you put them in storage for now
2014-11-25 09:45:57 [Rookie] [skunk skunkjunk junk] low armor
2014-11-25 09:45:58 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] Q and A time NO trade
2014-11-25 09:46:14 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] i have them stored off planet lol
2014-11-25 09:46:14 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Even if they are auction locked or trade locked one shall have posibility to dump into TT !!!!
2014-11-25 09:46:24 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 09:46:26 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 09:46:29 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] doesn't seem like a huge issue
2014-11-25 09:46:42 [Globals] [] Wolf Curd Fleischer found a deposit (Melchi Water) with a value of 50 PED at F.O.M.A. -- Fortuna!!
2014-11-25 09:46:46 [Local] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] yea, just wasting Storage space
2014-11-25 09:46:48 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] i would prefer they fix the metabolic accleration on the armour
2014-11-25 09:46:50 [Globals] [] Gotto LuckyStrike Gotto killed a creature (Argonaut Young) with a value of 28 PED!
2014-11-25 09:46:51 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] if you calculate the raw input/output of peds, you will most probably always lose. that's how the game is set up.
2014-11-25 09:46:53 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] anoying if u keep your storage clean and tidied

2014-11-25 09:46:55 [Trade] [Nexa Francesca Demonia] sell my outfit for 100 ped
2014-11-25 09:46:56 [Globals] [] Wolf Curd Fleischer found a deposit (Growth Molecules) with a value of 54 PED at F.O.M.A. -- Fortuna!!
2014-11-25 09:47:02 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] [Shrapnel]
2014-11-25 09:47:02 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 63 PED!
2014-11-25 09:47:13 [System] [] [77769, 76687, 163]
2014-11-25 09:47:14 [System] [] [77767, 76687, 163]
2014-11-25 09:47:16 [Globals] [] Team "hage" killed a creature (Kerberos Old) with a value of 15 PED!
2014-11-25 09:47:18 [Globals] [] Rasmus Awesome Holm killed a creature (Proteron Young) with a value of 233 PED!
2014-11-25 09:47:33 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 63 PED!
2014-11-25 09:47:39 [Globals] [] AC Wolfy Rockstar manufactured an item (Weapon Damage Enhancer I) worth 55 PED!
2014-11-25 09:47:44 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 09:47:46 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 09:47:46 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] instead of fighting your odds, focus in the mark-up of your loot
2014-11-25 09:47:48 [Trade] [the Barnesy 1997] Selling 3[GYRO FAP-2 (L)] at 5.4P each, PM me ASAP for deals or info

2014-11-25 09:47:48 [Trade] [Tomhey Tomhey Posakey] buying [Animal Muscle Oil]
2014-11-25 09:47:49 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Prohet....will be able finally use mele amps on next island swords ?????
2014-11-25 09:47:57 [System] [] Frederichio Fredda Lucerno has left the Entropia Universe.
2014-11-25 09:48:20 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Hehe
2014-11-25 09:48:22 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 66 PED!
2014-11-25 09:48:27 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Regarding those melee amps
2014-11-25 09:48:30 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I dont thinks so
2014-11-25 09:48:32 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] To be honest
2014-11-25 09:48:38 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st]

2014-11-25 09:48:40 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] why ?
2014-11-25 09:48:46 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 67 PED!
2014-11-25 09:48:49 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] thats 3 mins of work for MA
2014-11-25 09:48:53 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Thing is, that those weapons are supposed to be strong enough without
2014-11-25 09:48:55 [Rookie] [Drakkus Cowderp Oberon] what do you mean focus on the mark-up?
2014-11-25 09:48:59 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well no
2014-11-25 09:49:11 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Like any other before which are fiting amps now
2014-11-25 09:49:18 [Globals] [] Roko the Wolf found a deposit (Belkar Stone) with a value of 50 PED!
2014-11-25 09:49:26 [Rookie] [Chris Bridger Williams] Perfect. I have been looking for a good way to say that
2014-11-25 09:49:26 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] sell you loot for mark-up and avoid paying it yourself. it's a zero sum game. when others lose, some will win.
2014-11-25 09:49:27 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 65 PED!
2014-11-25 09:49:41 [Globals] [] Jenka Maiden Deluxe killed a creature (Eviscerator Generation 1) with a value of 95 PED!
2014-11-25 09:49:41 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] how philospher sword can be stronger than Dragonsbreath ( he can put amp on ) it's half it's DPS
2014-11-25 09:49:46 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] your* even
2014-11-25 09:49:51 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 09:49:53 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 09:49:53 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] dmg/pec maybe
2014-11-25 09:50:03 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 68 PED!
2014-11-25 09:50:05 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] used both so i am sure of that
2014-11-25 09:50:06 [Trade] [Light LoneWolf Dispatcher] . Offering SPACE TAXXi .
2014-11-25 09:50:08 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] But everyplanet partner has to agree to this
2014-11-25 09:50:19 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] and Next Island is kind of MIA
2014-11-25 09:50:20 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] U aware of shit next island is now ?
2014-11-25 09:50:31 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] MIA

2014-11-25 09:50:32 [Globals] [] Roko the Wolf found a deposit (Blausariam Stone) with a value of 53 PED!
2014-11-25 09:50:37 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] u must switch it on by them as MA
2014-11-25 09:50:45 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 117 PED!
2014-11-25 09:51:05 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling full set of Adjusted Musca (M) Wide range of protection for affordable price ~ Get it for only TT+75 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:51:10 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Next Island authorities are long time unaviable
2014-11-25 09:51:12 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Ghost Thigh Guards (M)] Set (no feet). Get to a higher level of protection, purchase this armor 20PED below AH price, for only TT+100 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:51:19 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] ancient greece lol
2014-11-25 09:51:19 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Nemesis Harness (F)] Set (without shins:\)! Get this awesome armor for only TT+400 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:51:19 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] MA id going to leave it like this ????
2014-11-25 09:51:34 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Something like that, but i have a fealing like this is going to change
2014-11-25 09:51:34 [Globals] [] Noemy Siphilys Conscience killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 73 PED!
2014-11-25 09:51:46 [Trade] [the Barnesy 1997] Selling 3[GYRO FAP-2 (L)] at 5.4P each, PM me ASAP for deals or info

2014-11-25 09:51:53 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Dominax Original Rattlesnake] (tier level 2.8) for only TT+300! ~ Get a better deal than AH at TP!
2014-11-25 09:51:56 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 65 PED!
2014-11-25 09:52:00 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 68 PED!
2014-11-25 09:52:01 [Globals] [] liddle red gunzy ridinghood found a deposit (Energized Crystal) with a value of 53 PED!
2014-11-25 09:52:02 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Lacerating Attack Nanochip I] for TT+200 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:52:04 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] u mean MA taking over Next Island ?
2014-11-25 09:52:11 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Omegaton Fast Aid FAP-110], 18.3 hp/sec, no level requirement ~ Get it hundreds of peds cheaper than MU at TP!
2014-11-25 09:52:17 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling colored/textured [Chili Sombrero (M,C)] for only TT+60PEDs at TP!
2014-11-25 09:52:22 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] BUYING ESI & SKILL IMPLANTS OF ALL PROFESSIONS ~ NOVA FRAGMENT 1PEC/200 ~ BLAZAR FRAGMENT 10PEC/100 ~ BEST RATES AT TP!
2014-11-25 09:52:32 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 09:52:34 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 09:52:46 [Trade] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] Selling [Arkadia Underground Deed] for 45,99 ped each
2014-11-25 09:52:47 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well the problems with the unbalanced swords right now is that Next Island did not adjust them
2014-11-25 09:52:49 [Trade] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] Selling [Weapon Range Enhancer I] 300%
2014-11-25 09:53:01 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] why do you change the good loots
2014-11-25 09:53:09 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] What do you mean?
2014-11-25 09:53:43 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] loot whining on small smaple

2014-11-25 09:53:54 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] down and upswing we have them all

2014-11-25 09:54:03 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well i am not aware of any changes to the loot.
2014-11-25 09:54:10 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] ok so no amps for Next Island...pity ;(
2014-11-25 09:54:20 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Yeah, it is dynamic, you can have bad days, and good days, sometimes even fucking horrible days
2014-11-25 09:54:24 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] U could at least Set Next Island on auction as big LA
2014-11-25 09:54:26 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I cant say
2014-11-25 09:54:28 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] Does every planet partner have free reins when it comes to the creation of weapons? You say that the swords are too good for amp.
2014-11-25 09:54:33 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] 100% that there will not be amps for them
2014-11-25 09:54:40 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] Sounds like the partners can created whatever they want
2014-11-25 09:54:57 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] But i suspect that it will not happen, my personal observation
2014-11-25 09:55:01 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 09:55:03 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 09:55:08 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] They CAN but they are not allowed
2014-11-25 09:55:12 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] ok last question i have

2014-11-25 09:55:19 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Shoot :3
2014-11-25 09:55:21 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 64 PED!
2014-11-25 09:55:24 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Is MA buying CLD's out of market back ????
2014-11-25 09:55:39 [Globals] [] pER Tha Man Defender killed a creature (Kerberos Old) with a value of 11 PED!
2014-11-25 09:56:01 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] low amount of CLD's on auction and price rises without any reason ( even despite lowered dividende )
2014-11-25 09:56:08 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] As far as i am aware, they are not

2014-11-25 09:56:10 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] So what happens if they decided to create a weapon with 100 DPS and 100 dmg/pec. What are the rules for creation of weapons/armors?
2014-11-25 09:56:15 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] so lot of ppl thinking MA is buying CLD's back silently
2014-11-25 09:56:33 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 09:56:35 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] So u can't say 100 % ?
2014-11-25 09:56:35 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 09:56:35 [Globals] [] liddle red gunzy ridinghood found a deposit (Lysterium Stone) with a value of 78 PED!
2014-11-25 09:56:39 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling full set of Adjusted Musca (M) Wide range of protection for affordable price ~ Get it for only TT+75 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:56:41 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] demand for CLD usually goes up before mayhem event
2014-11-25 09:56:47 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] so it is possible , just u don;t know about that ?
2014-11-25 09:56:48 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 67 PED!
2014-11-25 09:56:48 [Globals] [] Bucko Buckoducko Ducko killed a creature (Proteron Young) with a value of 209 PED!
2014-11-25 09:56:59 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Ghost Thigh Guards (M)] Set (no feet). Get to a higher level of protection, purchase this armor 20PED below AH price, for only TT+100 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:57:02 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] I just want be sure i understand you well
2014-11-25 09:57:15 [Trade] [the Barnesy 1997] Selling 3[GYRO FAP-2 (L)] at 5.4P each, PM me ASAP for deals or info

2014-11-25 09:57:19 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Nemesis Harness (F)] Set (without shins:\)! Get this awesome armor for only TT+400 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:57:19 [Globals] [] Nikki Honey Smith killed a creature (Kerberos Guardian) with a value of 58 PED!
2014-11-25 09:57:30 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] lol and here i was thinking i was doing well on the rookie finder
2014-11-25 09:57:32 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] i understood that you not being aware mean it could hapening indeed
2014-11-25 09:57:35 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] because i was getting claims
2014-11-25 09:57:36 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Dominax Original Rattlesnake] (tier level 2.8) for only TT+300! ~ Get a better deal than AH at TP!
2014-11-25 09:57:46 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] is is important info for CLD holders
2014-11-25 09:57:53 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 09:57:53 [Rookie] [Helpful jeeth4x Watcher] 8 peds in, 4 peds out =P
2014-11-25 09:57:55 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 09:57:57 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Lacerating Attack Nanochip I] for TT+200 at TP!
2014-11-25 09:58:02 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] official MA admit or Decline would be nice
2014-11-25 09:58:10 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Omegaton Fast Aid FAP-110], 18.3 hp/sec, no level requirement ~ Get it hundreds of peds cheaper than MU at TP!
2014-11-25 09:58:16 [Local] [Kirderf Brain Rakso] is that why land deeds been going up in price? becuase people think MA is buying them back? silly
2014-11-25 09:58:23 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling colored/textured [Chili Sombrero (M,C)] for only TT+60PEDs at TP!
2014-11-25 09:58:25 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 67 PED!
2014-11-25 09:58:33 [Trade] [Light LoneWolf Dispatcher] . Offering SPACE TAXXi .
2014-11-25 09:58:36 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] BUYING ESI & SKILL IMPLANTS OF ALL PROFESSIONS ~ NOVA FRAGMENT 1PEC/200 ~ BLAZAR FRAGMENT 10PEC/100 ~ BEST RATES AT TP!
2014-11-25 09:58:38 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] nah its becourse there is lower amount of them on market
2014-11-25 09:58:40 [Local] [the Barnesy 1997] if prices go up, then CLD holders win

2014-11-25 09:58:41 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I cant speak so much of the process of how PP makes weapons
2014-11-25 09:58:55 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] All i can say is that they cant create what they want, since it is controlled by mindark in the end
2014-11-25 09:58:56 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 235 PED!
2014-11-25 09:59:04 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] case is if MA is buying CLD's back...lets what what PROHET will say
2014-11-25 09:59:24 [Globals] [] red sofie lady killed a creature (Ambulimax Young) with a value of 54 PED at Nea's Place!
2014-11-25 09:59:25 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] It might as well be that someone is buying CLDs again, but i am not aware of anyone at this company doing so just to manipulate the price
2014-11-25 09:59:30 [Rookie] [Jovanna Lady-Jovanna Athinea] Good morning all

How we can reload a gun with ammunition?
2014-11-25 09:59:33 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] DAO loudmouth SGA edition no longer drop?
2014-11-25 09:59:35 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] I think it is a shame that they created weapons that can't be amped. Amps should work on every weapon (according to the info)
2014-11-25 09:59:59 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Me too
2014-11-25 10:00:03 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 10:00:05 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 10:00:10 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Totally afree with you
2014-11-25 10:00:13 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] agree*
2014-11-25 10:00:18 [Rookie] [Vanessa Sweetie Paradise] just buy ammo for it
2014-11-25 10:00:22 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] PROPHET can you ask someone responsible in office and give here pure clear answer about that CLD's ????
2014-11-25 10:00:23 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 65 PED!
2014-11-25 10:00:31 [Rookie] [SpikE SpikE Odets] no reload on guns.. just need to have ammo in your carried inventory
2014-11-25 10:00:43 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] *enough* ammo
2014-11-25 10:00:46 [Globals] [] Moneisha Seraphit Polevoi killed a creature (Atrox Young) with a value of 289 PED at = TINY TROX TERRITORY = OLA10 (388x297) by Calypso Farms INC.!
2014-11-25 10:00:53 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] simple yes or no..withiut PR BS like " i am not aware" or smt ?
2014-11-25 10:01:02 [Globals] [] Team "POOR, FAT & SWEATY PIXIE MEN" killed a creature (Ambulimax Young) with a value of 97 PED at Nea's Place!
2014-11-25 10:01:05 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] I mean, like you say: "Everything is controlled by MA in the end" doesn't that mean that you can adjust the stats of some weapons.
2014-11-25 10:01:06 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well in my opinion that question is better directed at someone at Planet Calypso, We at MindArk dont earn more money because of CLD
2014-11-25 10:01:12 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] wchich basicaly can mean both options and is not answer
2014-11-25 10:01:18 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] as in the gun uses more per shot than just 1 ammo
2014-11-25 10:01:22 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 10:01:24 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 10:01:35 [Local] [the Barnesy 1997] Selling 3[GYRO FAP-2 (L)] at 5.4P each, PM me ASAP for deals or info

2014-11-25 10:01:43 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] For exampel archon sword so that melee amps will work on it? Can't be that hard. If the PP aren't doing their job. someone has to step in.
2014-11-25 10:01:43 [Globals] [] Mats Malla Kohler killed a creature (Ambulimax Young) with a value of 59 PED at BIG Industries OLA#42 (290,587)!
2014-11-25 10:01:50 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Guybrush; No, we can just say "this is not acceptable" and its PPs responsibility to change, but im sorry cant talk more about this
2014-11-25 10:01:54 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] ok but PC is subsidiary of MA
2014-11-25 10:02:01 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] u are deceiding anyway
2014-11-25 10:02:02 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 83 PED!
2014-11-25 10:02:03 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] right click on the gun > item info
2014-11-25 10:02:10 [Rookie] [Ridge RB Batty] to see how much is uses per shot
2014-11-25 10:02:12 [Rookie] [Jovanna Lady-Jovanna Athinea] Universal ammo doesnt fit into the 1st pistol you get?
2014-11-25 10:02:17 [Local] [Kirderf Brain Rakso] anyone can buy and sell land deeds as they want, people who own and keep land deeds get no gain from price going up, and people who sell probably dont
2014-11-25 10:02:22 [Local] [Kirderf Brain Rakso] want to buy more
2014-11-25 10:02:30 [Trade] [Cherrie One Tree] WTS [Animal Muscle Oil]
2014-11-25 10:02:47 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] No, we are just controlling the balance, we cannot tell Rocktropia that they cant have strippers as Creatures, but we can say that the strippers
2014-11-25 10:02:47 [Trade] [Light LoneWolf Dispatcher] . Offering SPACE TAXXi .
2014-11-25 10:02:50 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] are to stronk
2014-11-25 10:02:53 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet]

2014-11-25 10:03:01 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling full set of Adjusted Musca (M) Wide range of protection for affordable price ~ Get it for only TT+75 at TP!
2014-11-25 10:03:06 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] For example
2014-11-25 10:03:16 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Now thats not the case but you understand what i mean.
2014-11-25 10:03:18 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] Okey, another question then. All the stores that are owned my "Marcus the c..... broker" (AKA MA) are those stores going to be sold to the
2014-11-25 10:03:21 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] public any time soon?
2014-11-25 10:03:22 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Ghost Thigh Guards (M)] Set (no feet). Get to a higher level of protection, purchase this armor 20PED below AH price, for only TT+100 at TP!
2014-11-25 10:03:26 [Trade] [Tomhey Tomhey Posakey] buying [Animal Muscle Oil]
2014-11-25 10:03:33 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] [Shrapnel] hate this
2014-11-25 10:03:35 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 10:03:35 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] PROPHET...i asked PC about it and they redirected to MA as parentcompany
2014-11-25 10:03:36 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 69 PED!
2014-11-25 10:03:37 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 10:03:40 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Nemesis Harness (F)] Set (without shins:\)! Get this awesome armor for only TT+400 at TP!
2014-11-25 10:03:42 [Rookie] [Zyko xZyilox Zin] how do i survey an area?
2014-11-25 10:03:54 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Dominax Original Rattlesnake] (tier level 2.8) for only TT+300! ~ Get a better deal than AH at TP!
2014-11-25 10:04:07 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Shogomad, What did you ask ? hard trying to keep track of all the different questions
2014-11-25 10:04:09 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Lacerating Attack Nanochip I] for TT+200 at TP!
2014-11-25 10:04:27 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] anyway i am don;t know to want if PC is buying CLD's just if MA is doing that ??
2014-11-25 10:04:27 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling [Omegaton Fast Aid FAP-110], 18.3 hp/sec, no level requirement ~ Get it hundreds of peds cheaper than MU at TP!
2014-11-25 10:04:29 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 10:04:31 [Trade] [Tomhey Tomhey Posakey] buying [Animal Muscle Oil]
2014-11-25 10:04:31 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 10:04:41 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] where i can find UL ghost foot guard?
2014-11-25 10:04:43 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] PROPHET can you ask someone responsible in office and give here pure clear answer about that CLD's ????
2014-11-25 10:04:44 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I dont know about all the deeds that Marcus is holding, but most of them are usually sold through Auction when the time is right
2014-11-25 10:04:45 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] Selling colored/textured [Chili Sombrero (M,C)] for only TT+60PEDs at TP!
2014-11-25 10:04:46 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 67 PED!
2014-11-25 10:04:58 [Trade] [Ábel s0me1 Énekes] BUYING ESI & SKILL IMPLANTS OF ALL PROFESSIONS ~ NOVA FRAGMENT 1PEC/200 ~ BLAZAR FRAGMENT 10PEC/100 ~ BEST RATES AT TP!
2014-11-25 10:05:03 [Globals] [] Noemy Siphilys Conscience killed a creature (Hogglo Young) with a value of 170 PED!
2014-11-25 10:05:05 [Trade] [Cherrie One Tree] WTS 2K [Animal Muscle Oil]
2014-11-25 10:05:18 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Shogo, No i cannot, I am sorry
2014-11-25 10:05:21 [Globals] [] The Dude One killed a creature (Foul Young) with a value of 15 PED!
2014-11-25 10:05:25 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] [Empty Skill Implant (L)]
2014-11-25 10:05:48 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 10:05:49 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 10:06:07 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] In other words it is possible MA is buying CLD's back from market as you cannot deny that officialy ?
2014-11-25 10:06:11 [Globals] [] charles charlie fox found a deposit (Caldorite Stone) with a value of 59 PED at F.O.M.A. - FORTUNA!
2014-11-25 10:06:12 [Rookie] [Zyko xZyilox Zin] nvm lol i got it now
2014-11-25 10:06:13 [Globals] [] alfen alfen 777 killed a creature (Argonaut Scavenger Elite) with a value of 242 PED!
2014-11-25 10:06:14 [Globals] [] Jeff ieme Hood killed a creature (Kerberos Provider) with a value of 10 PED!
2014-11-25 10:06:22 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] thats enough answer for me, ty

2014-11-25 10:06:29 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I can deny it Offcially
2014-11-25 10:06:35 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 66 PED!
2014-11-25 10:06:36 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] thats ok
2014-11-25 10:06:37 [Globals] [] Danny Dudelbug Lazer killed a creature (Ambulimax Old) with a value of 50 PED!
2014-11-25 10:06:51 [Globals] [] John Klayman Escort killed a creature (Aurli Weak) with a value of 54 PED at Crystal Palace Space Station!
2014-11-25 10:06:53 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] Okey, then i'll just have to wait then. Cuz Emerald lakes mall floor 3 is owned by MA.
2014-11-25 10:06:57 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] can you drop a vague but tantalizing hint about a future update that is planned?
2014-11-25 10:07:04 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 10:07:06 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 63 PED!
2014-11-25 10:07:06 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 10:07:07 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] MA policy, and you working for them

2014-11-25 10:07:11 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] IF you think about it Shogomad it is ilogical for Ma to do that
2014-11-25 10:07:14 [Local] [Shawn Thark Columbo] hihi, nice one demoniac

2014-11-25 10:07:19 [Globals] [] Kunrad Solo Reez manufactured an item (Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L)) worth 66 PED!
2014-11-25 10:07:37 [Rookie] [Christine Foxrider Magellan] morning/middle of the night folks
2014-11-25 10:07:38 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] I think it is logical to do so..tahts why few % of ppl is concerned
2014-11-25 10:07:45 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Demoniac, It will contain content and defenetly patch notes

2014-11-25 10:07:51 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov]

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2014-11-25 10:08:03 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] most of CLD's is holded by less ppl anyway
2014-11-25 10:08:08 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 10:08:10 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 10:08:10 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] not vague enough

2014-11-25 10:08:12 [Trade] [Light LoneWolf Dispatcher] . Offering SPACE TAXXi .
2014-11-25 10:08:24 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well Demoniac, thats all i can give you,
2014-11-25 10:08:37 [Rookie] [Vanessa Sweetie Paradise] hiya
2014-11-25 10:08:48 [Trade] [Cherrie One Tree] I have a question when is MA going to fix the DC problems?
2014-11-25 10:09:00 [Local] [Cherrie One Tree] I have a question when is MA going to fix the DC problems?
2014-11-25 10:09:06 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] BUYING BLAZAR, FRUITS, SWEAT, DUNG, MOLISK TOTHS, FOUL BONE ,COMBAT TOKEN, BONE SAMPLE, NATURAL STONES @balcony
2014-11-25 10:09:08 [Trade] [Lazar Danieldodel Andreas] SELL 1OK CALYPSO BONE SAMPLE @BALCONY
2014-11-25 10:09:24 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Support are getting alot of reports of the random DCs that are going down
2014-11-25 10:09:42 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Ty PROPHET not bothering u more....your help was nice

2014-11-25 10:09:47 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] MA is always working towards improvment around this area
2014-11-25 16:01:06 [Trade] [John William Slayer] Buying Archon Sword and or Dehera Immolation Sword at Balcony!!!
2014-11-25 16:01:14 [Globals] [] luisa li nilsa killed a creature (Marcimex Devastator) with a value of 293 PED!
2014-11-25 16:01:22 [Globals] [] king kingraa raa manufactured an item (Finder F-211 (L)) worth 54 PED!
2014-11-25 16:01:34 [Globals] [] Crysis Dreamer TheOne killed a creature (Kerberos Dominant) with a value of 52 PED!
2014-11-25 16:01:38 [Globals] [] king kingraa raa manufactured an item (Finder F-211 (L)) worth 54 PED!
2014-11-25 16:01:43 [Trade] [AnitaClementina25 Clementina25 vanderNet] YOUR AD HERE ?? PM ME FOR DETAILS @ BALCONY
2014-11-25 16:01:43 [Globals] [] Mandred Maverick Torgridson killed a creature (Kerberos Alpha) with a value of 63 PED!
2014-11-25 16:01:55 [Trade] [memo BorteX dogan] BUYING AUD´S AND CLD´S ! PM ME!
2014-11-25 16:02:00 [Trade] [John William Slayer] Buying Archon Sword and or Dehera Immolation Sword at Balcony!!!
2014-11-25 16:02:25 [Globals] [] king kingraa raa manufactured an item (Finder F-211 (L)) worth 55 PED!
2014-11-25 16:02:31 [Rookie] [The Arqueiro Verde] is there any shoutcut to enten a veicle or equipe a weapon ?
2014-11-25 16:02:32 [Trade] [AnitaClementina25 Clementina25 vanderNet] OFFERING COLORING / TEXTURING / HAIRSTYLING / FACESCULPTING AND BODYSCULPTING SERVICES @ BALCONY
2014-11-25 16:02:38 [Globals] [] Shaman 4400 Salvation found a deposit (Lysterium Stone) with a value of 53 PED!
2014-11-25 16:02:52 [Globals] [] Ben Cobra The Dark Knight killed a creature (Proteron Young) with a value of 116 PED!
2014-11-25 16:02:56 [Trade] [John William Slayer] Buying Archon Sword and or Dehera Immolation Sword at Balcony!!!
2014-11-25 16:02:56 [Globals] [] king kingraa raa manufactured an item (Finder F-211 (L)) worth 54 PED!

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

aridash said:
excellent, so in your view they needed $6m and they didnt consider the reduced revenue. and now.. they dont need that $6m? they've found some money elsewhere so can buy back the CLD...

No, you just not read whole 10 points and stoped at point where MA actions seems obviously insane as PED's can be withdrawn . I explained what they might be doing to assure they will be kept in game.

aridash said:
ah, no of course not. in classic conspriacy theorising, when faced with a obvious flaw in the reasoning, we insert a second conspiracy to support the first, rather then reassess our original theory. so, to recap MA (not Planet Calypso who are responsible for the CLDs) are covertly crediting people with PED that havent been deposited for CLDs, to lower their liabilities (of PED that *could* be withraw). which also means increasing the revenue of Planet Calypso, not MA.

top work there.

In classic conspiracy theories few % ppl see what majority can't. Taht few aware %'s is called conspiracy theorists and generaly laughed out till time when history shows they were right ,totaly right or somehow right.

Purpose of my posts about it ( I didnt made thread with that teory yet ) is to find methods of falsyfying or confirming varios aspects of it. I am used to all those " conspiracy laugh" between few posts with good ideas or solutions.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

mastermesh said:
why buy back what never left your hands (or the hands of your secret alts?)

It's simple. If CLD's are again in MA hands they will pay dividende to themselves or rather not pay at all.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

narfi said:
It is no different than shrapnel.
Creating peds that will stay in the game.

Get real. If you want to wear a tinfoil hat on this topic then you should make it something that is actually bad.

For example: Not just buying clds but buying AND selling based on updates and changes that effect the economy that the player base can not know about at the time. "Insider trading"

But seriously who cares if they print ped to buy colds from us for more than we bought them for? If you hit the withdraw button they will still back it and pay you. (In three months of Wednesdays)

It's similar to shrapnel just at 1st glance. Major CLD's holders are more likely to withdraw that money after geting them sold than ocasional 1 pcs owner who got it in trade for example.

He rather spent that 1200-1500 peds in game than wait 3 months for withdrawal. And this is place when MA advantage arise. They have money deposited in game (for CLD) and consumed by system.

Ofc some money for initial CLD's were already ingame. Also some part of those 1200-1500 peds from MA will be withdrawn. But that system of liquidating CLD's no need to be 100 % accurate. Even if it will work for 20-30% CLD;s with liquidation of CLD's from Overdrive Hummer guy MA is already half-way there, on way to not have such liablity like CLD revenue.

Harmony. · Nov 26, 2014

shoti said:
It's similar to shrapnel just at 1st glance. Major CLD's holders are more likely to withdraw that money after geting them sold than ocasional 1 pcs owner who got it in trade for example.

He rather spent that 1200-1500 peds in game than wait 3 months for withdrawal. And this is place when MA advantage arise. They have money deposited in game (for CLD) and consumed by system.

Ofc some money for initial CLD's were already ingame. Also some part of those 1200-1500 peds from MA will be withdrawn. But that system of liquidating CLD's no need to be 100 % accurate. Even if it will work for 20-30% CLD;s with liquidation of CLD's from Overdrive Hummer guy MA is already half-way there, on way to not have such liablity like CLD revenue.

But if they buy CLD they will drive up price making the big owners a lot more peds when they want to withdraw ....
Wouldn't that be stupid?

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

Thark said:
[...]

B.) Ofc MA doesn't have the Peds to cover the MU of all items that's just silly. Think about it, it doesn't even make any sense what so ever that they would. I can't even find a good analogy for it, it's so nonsensical. Colorless green ideas sleep furiously?!

MA admited already there are items in game they would gladly get rid out of system. That's why some no longer drop. And as it is of system enough retention rate for them is baned/expired account. Thats why MA never officialy announced buying back if them.

Lately making all those overcharged amps. Before 2nd unL as tiering ingridient which might be lost. All those removing them out of game.

In CLD's its hard to make something like " make 2 beter CLD's out of 4 regular" ar take them back from players. Basicaly buying them back right from auction is easiest to perform.

Thark said:
C.) Creating peds out of thin air? That doesn't make any sense what so ever either. Too long a day at work today and just typing the first thing that comes to mind w/o thinking? That's not how math, economics, book keeping and legal stuff and all that works (sorry, I don't know the english terms - you know what I mean, running a business).[...]

Regards
Thark

Already answered on that, but seems is hard to explain that. MA in this case is like government which is printing money. It's silly to expect them to use some external money to put into system they want to take out some item out of it. They creating PED's after each depo made by players. It's really easy for them to create PED's which will be paid to that CLD owner they are going buy from. Making that regularly in small amount don,t drag attention and alow most of that PED's stay ingame and be consumed by system. Effect on EU economy is ismilar to inflation of money in RL currency.

As inflation of PED is similar to inflation of USD MA can additionaly use USD value changes using for picking moment of such buying, as those also affect CLD price. In current internal EU economy state we are abserwing that as stability or even improveing of situation, when in reality things are getting worse and worse under skin.

I have no idea what might be worth TT and MU of all items ingame to valuate that. But at some point inflating this way will end in massive price crash on literally everything ingame ( MU wise ofc ). MA have such data for sure so it;s easy to play with that moment and use it for own favor.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

Harmony. said:
But if they buy CLD they will drive up price making the big owners a lot more peds when they want to withdraw ....
Wouldn't that be stupid?

Nope...big owners keep them for dividende. At that point MA don't care if they think theirs CLD's are worth 1000 or 2000 peds as they pay 3-4 peds anyway.

It's not so hard to make price of smth big on not fluent market, and CLD's market starting to be like that.

Even if big stack owner deceides to sell his stack price will fall at moment when he starts and with each sold CLD will be lower until he meets all market demand.

Thats universla right, work on every market, everytime.

As I said before I think it is not aimed at big owners anyway, as most of CLD's is in small batches or even single pieces.

whiteknut · Nov 26, 2014

I am sorry if i am missing something, but why is this thread still going on, if it was discovered that MA is not buying back CLDs?

To raise the price of CLDs? You are holding some and want ppl to panic, that MA is driving the price up, so they buy atm and price will rise even faster?

About the claim that usually seller of 1 or 2 CLDs doesnt withdraw i would call it just a theory, because there are many noobs who are doing exactly this.

Yes there would be advantages for MA to buy back all CLDs but they said they are not buying (end of discussion?).

So what could possibly motivate you to keep on going even after your claims have been denied?

Not buying back CLDs is also good chance to advertise (they havent dont it yet, but imagine ads : "Investing in stocks get you 10% ROI? Tired of low interests? Not anymore! Buy virtual land deeds with current ROI over XX% (1000/(Current CLD price+ All payouts)/year) Dont be old fashioned be part of something huge! "

If MA would be buying back CLDs ppl would get exactly the price they want for their CLDs, there are no losers there.
If MA would not be buying CLDs ppl would get exactly the price they want for their CLDs, there are no losers there.

There is no difference if MA is buying back CLDs for regular players, no one is forcing anyone to sell.

But as officially said : MA is not buying back CLDs.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

whiteknut said:
I am sorry if i am missing something, but why is this thread still going on, if it was discovered that MA is not buying back CLDs?

To raise the price of CLDs? You are holding some and want ppl to panic, that MA is driving the price up, so they buy atm and price will rise even faster?

About the claim that usually seller of 1 or 2 CLDs doesnt withdraw i would call it just a theory, because there are many noobs who are doing exactly this.

Yes there would be advantages for MA to buy back all CLDs but they said they are not buying (end of discussion?).

So what could possibly motivate you to keep on going even after your claims have been denied?

Not buying back CLDs is also good chance to advertise (they havent dont it yet, but imagine ads : "Investing in stocks get you 10% ROI? Tired of low interests? Not anymore! Buy virtual land deeds with current ROI over XX% (1000/(Current CLD price+ All payouts)/year) Dont be old fashioned be part of something huge! "

If MA would be buying back CLDs ppl would get exactly the price they want for their CLDs, there are no losers there.
If MA would not be buying CLDs ppl would get exactly the price they want for their CLDs, there are no losers there.

There is no difference if MA is buying back CLDs for regular players, no one is forcing anyone to sell.

But as officially said : MA is not buying back CLDs.

People asking, people answering, seems topic is interesting so thread is going. Discuss is cultural, no flames, noone breaking rules. Usualy thread go as long as ppl discuss in them. Even you made him going on a bit wit hyour last post.

As for where is MA win in buying back CLD's i explained that many times before in that thread. I know it's not obvious, but already there.

As for diference for buying from regular players. Main is that when CLD's are back in MA hands they probably never hit market again except few pcs given as event reward to keep all thinking nothing changed.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

Colbey Kal said:
Shoti is confusing three issues and knotting them together. 1) Suspicion MA (or Planet Calypso actually) is buying back CLDs, 2) Suspicion MA is creating PED out of thin air 3) There seems to be fewer CLDs on the market.

Tbh I think considering all above together. It is not like any of these mentioned have no impact of others. In all economies even smal things may have big impact on results in future. Small things can be begining of great changes.

Colbey Kal said:
On the first point, there's nothing wrong with MA (or Calypso) buying back the CLD. They're like high yield bonds - RL companies buy those back all the time. Heck, in real life, companies often have a built in redemption price they can buy them back for which limits the the upside gain the public can get. If the seller's happy with the price they're getting and MA is happy with the price they're paying, no one else's opinion matters at all.

Diference between MA and other RL company buying out their bonds is that other RL company can't print it's own money to do so. In MA case it's rather like buying own bonds ( CLD's ) with another own bonds ( PED's ). It like rolling of credit somehow.

Colbey Kal said:
Second, if someone at MA wanted to do some funny business with creating PED they could do it very easily. If they are doing this, (Which I don't believe is happening) then the Real Cash concept of EU is seriously flawed. There would be much bigger issues - MA wouldn't care about making PED payments because they would have an infinite amount of PED / PED would be worthless.

Every fiat currency value goes to zero over time. PED's are not exception here. Simple creating PED's over deposit value to give ppl good loot etc is useless for MA - no gain for them and abvius inflationary loss over time as u mentioned. However in CLD's case tehre is gain for MA in form or less dividend to pay out to ppl. As mentioned before in order to work that good it is needed to ensure that those PED's will stay in system and will be degradated by it. Already those mechanisms are in place ( decay, 90% TT returns, longer wait time for withdrawal than deposit, etc. )

Colbey Kal said:
Last, it is not surprising there are fewer CLDs on the market. If an Uber is thinking of quitting EU because their life has changed and they have less free time, they have a choice to make after selling their gear & skills: Will they withdraw the PED or buy CLDs, and withdraw the income later? Since it takes 6 months to get the RL money (I've heard) they will be thinking in a longer term time frame. A few of them will probably happily park the PED in CLDs with a 15% return. If they have 100 CLDs, or more, they could log in every month or two to simply use the PED to buy more - at least until they don't think the return is worth the cost. At that point they could just start withdrawing the PED and there'd be no need to ever sell ==> Fewer CLD on the market.

I am glad someone finally see this. So far there were even ppl telling that amount of CLD's aviable is same and increse in price is efect of summer/autumn usual price fluctuation on everything.

CLD holder's with any stacks larger than few pcs are not target for such buyout imho, as it is hard to prevent those peds to leave system. Stacks larger than 100 pcs are safe from MA pov. Dumping now 100 CLD's or more via auction surerly would cause prices to drop as there are not much more of them aviable at all to buy. On MA place gather back 50% of all CLD's and keep rest at hands of few big investors is worth a shot. 5%-25% of all initialy made CLD's to go (assuming not all Hammer Overdrive CLD's hit market again) to go left. Those 5%-25% don;t shake market to much if will be well dilited and streched in time for year or so. As result MA liablity out of CLD is reduced 1/2 without much cost, and thats the goal imho.

Dan59 · Nov 26, 2014

I always thinked that part of CLD will be consumed in promised future land grab where you need at least 3 or more (9 maybe) CLD to claim land to build a house, to be a citizen, to be a part of upcoming political system ..

whiteknut · Nov 26, 2014

shoti said:
Diference between MA and other RL company buying out their bonds is that other RL company can't print it's own money to do so. In MA case it's rather like buying own bonds ( CLD's ) with another own bonds ( PED's ). It like rolling of credit somehow.

What can mindark get from printing money? Yes they can pay for the current owners of CLDs, BUT in the end they still have to pay for that money (when it is withdrawn).
Printing money doesnt help them to pay out their obligations.
Amount of peds circulated in game is under their control yes, but they cant put in unlimited amounts of peds, otherwise they would go bankrupt very very very quickly.

RL companies can use the same technique to buy out their bonds (it is called lending from banks). They will get rid of one obligation which will be replaced by new obligation. (So in MA case they would remove their obligation to CLD owners and turn it into obligation to withdrawers).

MA cant print money, they can print virtual goods(peds), which they have to be ready to back up with real money (incase the owner of the peds decides to turn it to real cash).

MA has obligation to its users, and if it decides not to back up the peds then i am quite sure the would be some heavy court cases, where MA has little chance to win. Imagine casino turning money into chips and refusing to change em back to real money.
I know MA is not regulated by same laws as casinos, BUT if they would ever do it (hasnt happened so far in over 10 years) then i am sure ppl with over 100k usd tied ot game would be more than happy to take MA to court.

remontoire · Nov 26, 2014

The log Shoti posted with, Rookie, System & Trade chat removed.

[2014-11-25 09:31:07 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Aadu, Post a support case, Support is at the moment working on a way to solve this.
2014-11-25 09:31:18 [Local] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] already done that
2014-11-25 09:32:09 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Then you will certeincly recieve an reply and solution soon
2014-11-25 09:32:25 [Local] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] if with solution, then good
2014-11-25 09:32:33 [Local] [Petrus PM Molinos] Mindark Prohet, when I look at your achievements, I see a group called "Headjack". What is that?
2014-11-25 09:32:40 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] They will come up with something
2014-11-25 09:33:57 [Local] [Lacynda LCOX Cox] so what about this new update ? ment to help us ?
2014-11-25 09:37:27 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] What update are you speaking about?
2014-11-25 09:37:52 [Local] [Lacynda LCOX Cox] universal auctions
2014-11-25 09:38:13 [Local] [AC Wolfy Rockstar] i cant wait
2014-11-25 09:39:49 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Hey Prohet....everything OK with MA support ?
2014-11-25 09:39:59 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] [Shrapnel]
2014-11-25 09:40:26 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] i had a question about starter pack items
2014-11-25 09:40:28 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Everthing should be OK
2014-11-25 09:40:38 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] They have alot of work to solve your cases
2014-11-25 09:40:44 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] I am waiting few weeks to answer case
2014-11-25 09:40:50 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Not yours as inj just yours but i mean everyones
2014-11-25 09:41:14 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] All staff from ilunova was moved to sweden ? or u have just less ppl now ????
2014-11-25 09:41:15 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] ty for listening
2014-11-25 09:41:26 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] how do we get rid of the starter pack items
2014-11-25 09:41:30 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] a little bith of both
2014-11-25 09:41:48 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] If you just want to "remove" the item then just sell them for free to the TT
2014-11-25 09:41:52 [Local] [AC Wolfy Rockstar] yea the armor from starter pack dont want it anymore
2014-11-25 09:42:01 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] you cant it wont let you
2014-11-25 09:42:31 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] So you came here for Q&A session prophet ?
2014-11-25 09:42:38 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] wouldnt let me anyway
2014-11-25 09:43:04 [Local] [AC Wolfy Rockstar] no cant tt it
2014-11-25 09:43:05 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Hehe sort of
2014-11-25 09:43:28 [Local] [AC Wolfy Rockstar] cant drop it or trade it
2014-11-25 09:43:35 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] So what u doing for MA ?
2014-11-25 09:44:06 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] prophecy
2014-11-25 09:44:13 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] U seems like bored by morning coffe prophet
2014-11-25 09:44:15 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I am doing a couple of stuff, mostly this
2014-11-25 09:44:43 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] prophet, it seems you cant tt starter pack items. it wont let you sell them
2014-11-25 09:44:55 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Sorry if i dont have time to answer all of your questions, just try again and il answer what i can read
2014-11-25 09:45:01 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Gladly hear answer on wolfy wuestion..also have few items i want ged rid off
2014-11-25 09:45:26 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Why u just dont make all thing able to put in TT ?
2014-11-25 09:45:56 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Hmm seems odd, well if you cant sell it we would recommend you put them in storage for now
2014-11-25 09:45:58 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] Q and A time NO trade
2014-11-25 09:46:14 [Local] [SPARTAN DAVE S89] i have them stored off planet lol
2014-11-25 09:46:14 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Even if they are auction locked or trade locked one shall have posibility to dump into TT !!!!
2014-11-25 09:46:29 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] doesn't seem like a huge issue
2014-11-25 09:46:46 [Local] [Aadu dRifteR Asi] yea, just wasting Storage space
2014-11-25 09:46:48 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] i would prefer they fix the metabolic accleration on the armour
2014-11-25 09:46:53 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] anoying if u keep your storage clean and tidied
2014-11-25 09:47:02 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] [Shrapnel]
2014-11-25 09:47:49 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Prohet....will be able finally use mele amps on next island swords ?????
2014-11-25 09:48:20 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Hehe
2014-11-25 09:48:27 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Regarding those melee amps
2014-11-25 09:48:30 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I dont thinks so
2014-11-25 09:48:32 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] To be honest
2014-11-25 09:48:38 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st]
2014-11-25 09:48:40 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] why ?
2014-11-25 09:48:49 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] thats 3 mins of work for MA
2014-11-25 09:48:53 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Thing is, that those weapons are supposed to be strong enough without
2014-11-25 09:48:59 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well no
2014-11-25 09:49:11 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Like any other before which are fiting amps now
2014-11-25 09:49:41 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] how philospher sword can be stronger than Dragonsbreath ( he can put amp on ) it's half it's DPS
2014-11-25 09:49:53 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] dmg/pec maybe
2014-11-25 09:50:05 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] used both so i am sure of that
2014-11-25 09:50:08 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] But everyplanet partner has to agree to this
2014-11-25 09:50:19 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] and Next Island is kind of MIA
2014-11-25 09:50:20 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] U aware of shit next island is now ?
2014-11-25 09:50:31 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] MIA
2014-11-25 09:50:37 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] u must switch it on by them as MA
2014-11-25 09:51:10 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Next Island authorities are long time unaviable
2014-11-25 09:51:19 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] ancient greece lol
2014-11-25 09:51:19 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] MA id going to leave it like this ????
2014-11-25 09:51:34 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Something like that, but i have a fealing like this is going to change
2014-11-25 09:52:04 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] u mean MA taking over Next Island ?
2014-11-25 09:52:47 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well the problems with the unbalanced swords right now is that Next Island did not adjust them
2014-11-25 09:53:01 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] why do you change the good loots
2014-11-25 09:53:09 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] What do you mean?
2014-11-25 09:53:43 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] loot whining on small smaple
2014-11-25 09:53:54 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] down and upswing we have them all
2014-11-25 09:54:03 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well i am not aware of any changes to the loot.
2014-11-25 09:54:10 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] ok so no amps for Next Island...pity ;(
2014-11-25 09:54:20 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Yeah, it is dynamic, you can have bad days, and good days, sometimes even fucking horrible days
2014-11-25 09:54:24 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] U could at least Set Next Island on auction as big LA
2014-11-25 09:54:26 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I cant say
2014-11-25 09:54:28 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] Does every planet partner have free reins when it comes to the creation of weapons? You say that the swords are too good for amp.
2014-11-25 09:54:33 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] 100% that there will not be amps for them
2014-11-25 09:54:40 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] Sounds like the partners can created whatever they want
2014-11-25 09:54:57 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] But i suspect that it will not happen, my personal observation
2014-11-25 09:55:08 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] They CAN but they are not allowed
2014-11-25 09:55:12 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] ok last question i have
2014-11-25 09:55:19 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Shoot :3
2014-11-25 09:55:24 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Is MA buying CLD's out of market back ????
2014-11-25 09:56:01 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] low amount of CLD's on auction and price rises without any reason ( even despite lowered dividende )
2014-11-25 09:56:08 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] As far as i am aware, they are not
2014-11-25 09:56:10 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] So what happens if they decided to create a weapon with 100 DPS and 100 dmg/pec. What are the rules for creation of weapons/armors?
2014-11-25 09:56:15 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] so lot of ppl thinking MA is buying CLD's back silently
2014-11-25 09:56:35 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] So u can't say 100 % ?
2014-11-25 09:56:41 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] demand for CLD usually goes up before mayhem event
2014-11-25 09:56:47 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] so it is possible , just u don;t know about that ?
2014-11-25 09:57:02 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] I just want be sure i understand you well
2014-11-25 09:57:32 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] i understood that you not being aware mean it could hapening indeed
2014-11-25 09:57:46 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] is is important info for CLD holders
2014-11-25 09:58:02 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] official MA admit or Decline would be nice
2014-11-25 09:58:16 [Local] [Kirderf Brain Rakso] is that why land deeds been going up in price? becuase people think MA is buying them back? silly
2014-11-25 09:58:38 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] nah its becourse there is lower amount of them on market
2014-11-25 09:58:40 [Local] [the Barnesy 1997] if prices go up, then CLD holders win
2014-11-25 09:58:41 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I cant speak so much of the process of how PP makes weapons
2014-11-25 09:58:55 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] All i can say is that they cant create what they want, since it is controlled by mindark in the end
2014-11-25 09:59:04 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] case is if MA is buying CLD's back...lets what what PROHET will say
2014-11-25 09:59:25 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] It might as well be that someone is buying CLDs again, but i am not aware of anyone at this company doing so just to manipulate the price
2014-11-25 09:59:33 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] DAO loudmouth SGA edition no longer drop?
2014-11-25 09:59:35 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] I think it is a shame that they created weapons that can't be amped. Amps should work on every weapon (according to the info)
2014-11-25 09:59:59 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Me too
2014-11-25 10:00:10 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Totally afree with you
2014-11-25 10:00:13 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] agree*
2014-11-25 10:00:22 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] PROPHET can you ask someone responsible in office and give here pure clear answer about that CLD's ????
2014-11-25 10:00:53 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] simple yes or no..withiut PR BS like " i am not aware" or smt ?
2014-11-25 10:01:05 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] I mean, like you say: "Everything is controlled by MA in the end" doesn't that mean that you can adjust the stats of some weapons.
2014-11-25 10:01:06 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well in my opinion that question is better directed at someone at Planet Calypso, We at MindArk dont earn more money because of CLD
2014-11-25 10:01:12 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] wchich basicaly can mean both options and is not answer
2014-11-25 10:01:35 [Local] [the Barnesy 1997] Selling 3[GYRO FAP-2 (L)] at 5.4P each, PM me ASAP for deals or info
2014-11-25 10:01:43 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] For exampel archon sword so that melee amps will work on it? Can't be that hard. If the PP aren't doing their job. someone has to step in.
2014-11-25 10:01:50 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Guybrush; No, we can just say "this is not acceptable" and its PPs responsibility to change, but im sorry cant talk more about this
2014-11-25 10:01:54 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] ok but PC is subsidiary of MA
2014-11-25 10:02:01 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] u are deceiding anyway
2014-11-25 10:02:17 [Local] [Kirderf Brain Rakso] anyone can buy and sell land deeds as they want, people who own and keep land deeds get no gain from price going up, and people who sell probably dont
2014-11-25 10:02:22 [Local] [Kirderf Brain Rakso] want to buy more
2014-11-25 10:02:47 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] No, we are just controlling the balance, we cannot tell Rocktropia that they cant have strippers as Creatures, but we can say that the strippers
2014-11-25 10:02:50 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] are to stronk
2014-11-25 10:02:53 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet]
2014-11-25 10:03:06 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] For example
2014-11-25 10:03:16 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Now thats not the case but you understand what i mean.
2014-11-25 10:03:18 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] Okey, another question then. All the stores that are owned my "Marcus the c..... broker" (AKA MA) are those stores going to be sold to the
2014-11-25 10:03:21 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] public any time soon?
2014-11-25 10:03:33 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] [Shrapnel] hate this
2014-11-25 10:03:35 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] PROPHET...i asked PC about it and they redirected to MA as parentcompany
2014-11-25 10:04:07 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Shogomad, What did you ask ? hard trying to keep track of all the different questions
2014-11-25 10:04:27 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] anyway i am don;t know to want if PC is buying CLD's just if MA is doing that ??
2014-11-25 10:04:41 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] where i can find UL ghost foot guard?
2014-11-25 10:04:43 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] PROPHET can you ask someone responsible in office and give here pure clear answer about that CLD's ????
2014-11-25 10:04:44 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I dont know about all the deeds that Marcus is holding, but most of them are usually sold through Auction when the time is right
2014-11-25 10:05:18 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Shogo, No i cannot, I am sorry
2014-11-25 10:05:25 [Local] [1of7 jag 22] [Empty Skill Implant (L)]
2014-11-25 10:06:07 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] In other words it is possible MA is buying CLD's back from market as you cannot deny that officialy ?
2014-11-25 10:06:22 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] thats enough answer for me, ty
2014-11-25 10:06:29 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] I can deny it Offcially
2014-11-25 10:06:36 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] thats ok
2014-11-25 10:06:53 [Local] [Mister Guybrush Threepwood] Okey, then i'll just have to wait then. Cuz Emerald lakes mall floor 3 is owned by MA.
2014-11-25 10:06:57 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] can you drop a vague but tantalizing hint about a future update that is planned?
2014-11-25 10:07:07 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] MA policy, and you working for them
2014-11-25 10:07:11 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] IF you think about it Shogomad it is ilogical for Ma to do that
2014-11-25 10:07:14 [Local] [Shawn Thark Columbo] hihi, nice one demoniac
2014-11-25 10:07:38 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] I think it is logical to do so..tahts why few % of ppl is concerned
2014-11-25 10:07:45 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Demoniac, It will contain content and defenetly patch notes
2014-11-25 10:07:51 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] )
2014-11-25 10:08:03 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] most of CLD's is holded by less ppl anyway
2014-11-25 10:08:10 [Local] [Jade Demoniac Malkov] not vague enough
2014-11-25 10:08:24 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Well Demoniac, thats all i can give you,
2014-11-25 10:09:00 [Local] [Cherrie One Tree] I have a question when is MA going to fix the DC problems?
2014-11-25 10:09:24 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] Support are getting alot of reports of the random DCs that are going down
2014-11-25 10:09:42 [Local] [Shogomad Shoti 1st] Ty PROPHET not bothering u more....your help was nice
2014-11-25 10:09:47 [Local] [Mindark Official Prophet] MA is always working towards improvment around this area

das · Nov 26, 2014

lol, what loot change..
Guess he only works 1 day every 3 months?

WhiningSkeptic · Nov 26, 2014

remontoire said:
The log Shoti posted with, Rookie, System & Trade chat removed.

Thanks. I'll summarize it:

Shoti: When will we get amps on NI swords?
Prophet: Never. The swords didn't get adjusted.
Shoti: It's only 3 minutes work for MA.
Prophet: It's the PP's job, however, this might be subject to change.
Shoti: So MA is taking over NI...
Shoti: Are MA buying CLDs without having the money to back it up?
Prophet: No

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I read it like the future adjustments will be on MA since PPs time after time fails to follow guidelines. Amps will be introduced when and if the NI swords get properly balanced. MA is not buying CLDs with phony money.

And I can't stop laughing at the morons who consider the unsellabe armor a HUGE issue. Fuck. You guys get a storage box every Christmas. Should make up for the HUGE loss in storage space.

PW3CKA · Nov 26, 2014

I find the way you pushed to get some answers childish.. Like stop and think for a minute.. What do you really expected? That he tells you , yeah Shoti we are buying CLDs of the market? Like really? Use your brain cells please.. Basically you wasted time of boths

Magyar_Republic · Nov 26, 2014

I'm glad I didnt waste too much of my life on this bullshit conspiracy theory.

Wait a second. Any amount of time is too much time.

:banghead:

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

whiteknut said:
What can mindark get from printing money? Yes they can pay for the current owners of CLDs, BUT in the end they still have to pay for that money (when it is withdrawn).
Printing money doesnt help them to pay out their obligations.
Amount of peds circulated in game is under their control yes, but they cant put in unlimited amounts of peds, otherwise they would go bankrupt very very very quickly.

RL companies can use the same technique to buy out their bonds (it is called lending from banks). They will get rid of one obligation which will be replaced by new obligation. (So in MA case they would remove their obligation to CLD owners and turn it into obligation to withdrawers).

MA cant print money, they can print virtual goods(peds), which they have to be ready to back up with real money (incase the owner of the peds decides to turn it to real cash).
[...]

Explained that few times already, look at previous answers. Making new PED's just to give away it to players is useles for MA ( at any ratio higher than deposits ). There is no economical gain in creating PED's and injecting them into system. As you noticed they might be withdrawn if not consumed by players activity. In CLD's buyback result will be same if you buy large stack of them. There is big probablity that someone seling 100+ CLD's is going to take his money out of game ( unless he making some new "investment" ). This probablity is lot lower in case of 1 CLD - who someone got in other trade for example. So in case of buying back from auction all effort shall be focused on those single CLD's. Seler is also known so MA may easy check depo/withdrawal habbits to even further increase probablity that those PED's will stay and game and be consumed by system. In such case economical gain apear for MA in form of money deposited into game, later changed for CLD ( inittial release). If 20% of that peds will be withdrawn it means that they are buying back for 200 peds CLD issued initialy for 1000 peds. I am not telling that none of this peds will be withdrawn, but any % leftover is pure profit for MA.

shoti · Nov 26, 2014

PW3CKA said:
I find the way you pushed to get some answers childish.. Like stop and think for a minute.. What do you really expected? That he tells you , yeah Shoti we are buying CLDs of the market? Like really? Use your brain cells please.. Basically you wasted time of boths

I like straight answers. Simple yes or no would solve that after like 10 seconds. If i am not sure what answer I am getting mean i am pushing to simplify it and get it finally. Sometimes like in this case all that causing that this answer is simply missed.

I realy expect anything special, just saw MA offical and thought i ask what bothers me. Both answers would be satisfactioning for me somehow.

Yes - as oficial confirmation. No big deal then. Some new questions to ask then ( like where are peds for doing that from ? )
No - as official deny ( which i get ). Either is tru or not. Longer time before such straight answer is made ,bigger doubts.

In both case there is still posibility of geting misleading answer as MA did many time in the past for various cases, but at least official statement of something alowing you to quote in future in case of any problems.

Mindark Official Prophet at Twins (Amps and CLD's questions)

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