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Question: Skildek Vaporizer - mistake or just stupidity?!

valentin said:
It become when ppl started to use pets in landgrab and then MA put a P for it in pvp-areas to use tame mobs.
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Can you show me how I am supposed to know that!? I play entropia every day and still dont know that.......I agree they are shit in PVP but they are spawnable and I havent seen anything saying its not allowed except you saying it here
They absorb rocketdamage and they block vision for shots so I agree they shouldnt be around but it should be like vehicles not spawnable if they werent allowed.

Is there any official communication saying they arent allowed??
 
valentin said:
Btw...Its nice video of Joda because you can see that Joda is cheating because MA has forbidden avatars to surround themselves with tamed animals sense years ago in pvp 3 and he is not a new player so he knows that.
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I didnt know that MA not allowed to use pets in pvp. Never saw that anywhere.

krogfan said:
Can you show me how I am supposed to know that!? I play entropia every day and still dont know that.......I agree they are shit in PVP but they are spawnable and I havent seen anything saying its not allowed except you saying it here
They absorb rocketdamage and they block vision for shots so I agree they shouldnt be around but it should be like vehicles not spawnable if they werent allowed.

Is there any official communication saying they arent allowed??
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It seems they do not absorb damage, or at least not all pets. I was getting 400-450 hits from vapo when my HP buff TabTab was close.
 
This is so of topic the start talk about all here so mod need to change the name of this tread is more whyning them about the weapon so this tread need to be change the title:wise:
 
krogfan said:
Can you show me how I am supposed to know that!? I play entropia every day and still dont know that.......I agree they are shit in PVP but they are spawnable and I havent seen anything saying its not allowed except you saying it here
They absorb rocketdamage and they block vision for shots so I agree they shouldnt be around but it should be like vehicles not spawnable if they werent allowed.

Is there any official communication saying they arent allowed??
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Maybe some designers mistake from MA...?
Standing in vehicle(wrecks) was considered exploit i think in the past? Atleast it was removed...
I don't know if its possible to hide inside or use the pets somehow to avoid damage.

If someone can link the video, please do so, because i would like to see it.
Or if someone can test this?

Was not supposed to post again in this thread... but at least this is something interesting. :laugh:
 
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Life is cruel ...sometimes size don't count and you KO in one hit....

Strange nobody complain on this weapon Skildek Pulverizer (L) even older then Vapo ... and less skill then Vapo...
 
Scurvy Sityl said:
Did this video show his max HP increasing to 357?

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Hello to all my pk friends and all others of course :)
I wish you all a happy new year.

Very nice video, Gust is moving like a snake ! I like it !!

I understand Hulk about those rocket, when you know Joda's skill and see him flying like a bird lol
But this game is like this, it's a casino and everyone has a chance to win.

I remember few years ago when rocket was introduced, i said to my self, it's finish the time to fight alone against 10 players.
Finish the time when one guy like Star can fight a big team alone, it was really fun to watch or try to kill him.

Now it's time to work in team and not alone !
When you go in pvp4 now, always go by 2 mini, then 400 dmg become 200 dmg on each (except crit).
Dont forget the tango with his range and can one shot too.

This game is always moving in game play and stuff, we need to adapt to the situation and always find a solution.
May be one guy with 350 hp dont count now but 2 guys with 350 and 250 hp, then you rock !

I hope MA working hard against the lag and memory leak, it's really frustrating to buy lof ot stuff and impossible to use it.

It's time to pk again :)

See you very soon my friends and thank you very much for your welcome.

Foudil "Your best pk friend"
 
SHY said:
Standing in vehicle(wrecks) was considered exploit i think in the past? Atleast it was removed...
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The problem with vehicles (wrecks) was that you could stand inside it and shoot, while you couldn't be hit from the outside.
 
aia said:
The problem with vehicles (wrecks) was that you could stand inside it and shoot, while you couldn't be hit from the outside.
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Aha so it would function as a shield to make someone invincible :eyecrazy:
Anyone knows if this is the case with pets?
 
foudil said:
This game is always moving in game play and stuff, we need to adapt to the situation and always find a solution.
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This is what guys like Hulk and others from my pk days did not get. This game evolves and so must we, not just is skill, but tactically too and i find the fact that you can also evolve tactically to be a fantastic feature. And for a RCE pvp game, that is exactly what i look for. All the ingredients to succeed and or overcome, are right here and with you as a player.
 
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DaisyColdFinger said:
This is what guys like Hulk and others from my pk days did not get. This game evolves and so must we, not just is skill, but tactically too and i find the fact that you can also evolve tactically to be a fantastic feature. And for a RCE pvp game, that is exactly what i look for. All the ingredients to succeed and or overcome, are right here and with you as a player.
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Well said +rep!
Don't whine and cry to get the environment adapted to your wishes to be a winner...
Adapt yourself to the environment and become a winner!

Can repeat that over and over and over.. but it seems that some people just wont get it.
 
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SHY said:
Aha so it would function as a shield to make someone invincible :eyecrazy:
Anyone knows if this is the case with pets?
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While the wehicle wrecks was used by pk:ers, I thin pets were mainly used by miners.

A more recent example is the land grabs, where for a while the forts were filled with vehicles. What happened with vehicles was that a small no-vehicle zone was set up around the claim rod so you couldn't block it, and spawning of vehicles was disabled Close to the fort so it's not possible to spawn a lot of wehicles in a short time.

Some differences since the past time:
Back then you could have more than one pet out, so that would make them a thicker "wall".
Another difference, that should speak against a silent ban against pets in pvp, is that pets now also can give a buff (for instance HP). Theoretically, someone might bring a pet with them everywhere they go (inlcluding pvp) for up-leveling (in the previous system pets only leveled up when attempting to do tricks).

I should add pets would only protect you from behind, you can't hide "inside" a pet. And with some bad luck, someone with a scope should be able to hit by aiming through between the legs of the pet.
 
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aia said:
While the wehicle wrecks was used by pk:ers, I thin pets were mainly used by miners.

A more recent example is the land grabs, where for a while the forts were filled with vehicles. What happened with vehicles was that a small no-vehicle zone was set up around the claim rod so you couldn't block it, and spawning of vehicles was disabled Close to the fort so it's not possible to spawn a lot of wehicles in a short time.

Some differences since the past time:
Back then you could have more than one pet out, so that would make them a thicker "wall".
Another difference, that should speak against a silent ban against pets in pvp, is that pets now also can give a buff (for instance HP). Theoretically, someone might bring a pet with them everywhere they go (inlcluding pvp) for up-leveling (in the previous system pets only leveled up when attempting to do tricks).

I should add pets would only protect you from behind, you can't hide "inside" a pet. And with some bad luck, someone with a scope should be able to hit by aiming through between the legs of the pet.
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Aha ok. Thank you for the information :) +REP
Since the use of pets this way in PVP, i suggest pets should be tamable to level 50... Suitable to carry an Vaporiser :laugh:
 
krogfan said:
Can you show me how I am supposed to know that!? I play entropia every day and still dont know that.......I agree they are shit in PVP but they are spawnable and I havent seen anything saying its not allowed except you saying it here
They absorb rocketdamage and they block vision for shots so I agree they shouldnt be around but it should be like vehicles not spawnable if they werent allowed.

Is there any official communication saying they arent allowed??
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I will try to find this link but is a old one and i am not shure its still there because normally MA takes away 3/4 off all links i refers to wonder why...But it can be seen during the topics I wrote ,about returning of taming and to sell a avatar there the most links was removed....
 
HardWrath said:
Have more Vapo been put in the token trader aside from the original batch?
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If not than why have this discussion.. you can use the rocket launcher 98 times before it breaks. The gun will simply decay away.
 
DaisyColdFinger said:
This is what guys like Hulk and others from my pk days did not get. This game evolves and so must we, not just is skill, but tactically too and i find the fact that you can also evolve tactically to be a fantastic feature. And for a RCE pvp game, that is exactly what i look for. All the ingredients to succeed and or overcome, are right here and with you as a player.
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I must agree with you here DaisyColdFinger!

Ok heres my gear,

Marber Tango-Type Plasma Annihilator Tier 4.3
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.8
Value: 15,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 5,000 Peds
Time Tiering: 5 months

Cryogenic Attach Nanochip VIII Tier 7.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.0
Value: 10,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 7,000 Peds
Time Tiering: 1 Year

Skildek Decimator Tier 1.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.0
Value: 8,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 400 Peds
Timer Tiering: 5 Days
*** Still skilling to get SIB

Infiltrator Armor + Pulsar 7 Plates
Value: 3,000

Now we can do the math guys!

15,000P + 5,000P + 10,000P + 7,000P + 800P + 8,000P + 400P + 3,000P

= 49,200P / Time: 1 year 6 months​

VS.

=545P / Time: Not Needed​

Skildek Vaporizer (L) Tier 0.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: 0.0
Value: 545 Peds?
Cost To Tier: Not Needed
Time Tiering: Not Needed


Clearly, I have invested wisly all my gear combined...
Dwarf'ed by a 545 Ped Rocket @ Token Trader

Cost: 49,200P VS 545P
Time: 1 year 6 months VS Time Spent on AH getting Tokens

Thanks MA for rewarding all my hard work and Peds! :clap:


One more thing,
Everyone Posting You Like Vapo: please list your PK Gear, its Value and how long it took you to get it there.
Thanks!
 
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KullXP said:

I must agree with you here DaisyColdFinger!

Ok heres my gear,

Marber Tango-Type Plasma Annihilator Tier 4.3
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.8
Value: 15,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 5,000 Peds
Time Tiering: 5 months

Cryogenic Attach Nanochip VIII Tier 7.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.0
Value: 10,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 7,000 Peds
Time Tiering: 1 Year

Skildek Decimator Tier 1.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.0
Value: 8,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 400 Peds
Timer Tiering: 5 Days
*** Still skilling to get SIB

Infiltrator Armor + Pulsar 7 Plates
Value: 3,000

Now we can do the math guys!

15,000P + 5,000P + 10,000P + 7,000P + 800P + 8,000P + 400P + 3,000P

= 49,200P / Time: 1 year 6 months​

VS.

=545P / Time: Not Needed​

Skildek Vaporizer (L) Tier 0.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: 0.0
Value: 545 Peds?
Cost To Tier: Not Needed
Time Tiering: Not Needed


Clearly, I have invested wisly all my gear combined...
Dwarf'ed by a 545 Ped Rocket @ Token Trader

Cost: 49,200P VS 545P
Time: 1 year 6 months VS Time Spent on AH getting Tokens

Thanks MA for rewarding all my hard work and Peds! :clap:


One more thing,
Everyone please list your PK Gear, its Value and how long it took you to get it there.
Thanks!
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Jups... now i understand it hurts.
But what if a UL version of that thing will drop?
I mean.. we have the Terminator ingame atm too.

And EU is Dynamic.

@OP: Can you also tell us how much money you deposited and invested?
(If its not too private ofc:) )

#Kull: Not all peds are lost. There is always an option to sell the items and get back a part of the investment.
While the Vaporizer will break since its (L)

Not gonna post anymore in this thread...
The game is just like that.. not everyone can be happy.

I wish everyone all the best.
 
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KullXP said:

I must agree with you here DaisyColdFinger!

Ok heres my gear,

Marber Tango-Type Plasma Annihilator Tier 4.3
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.8
Value: 15,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 5,000 Peds
Time Tiering: 5 months

Cryogenic Attach Nanochip VIII Tier 7.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.0
Value: 10,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 7,000 Peds
Time Tiering: 1 Year

Skildek Decimator Tier 1.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: Tier 0.0
Value: 8,000 Peds
Cost to Tier: 400 Peds
Timer Tiering: 5 Days
*** Still skilling to get SIB

Infiltrator Armor + Pulsar 7 Plates
Value: 3,000

Now we can do the math guys!

15,000P + 5,000P + 10,000P + 7,000P + 800P + 8,000P + 400P + 3,000P

= 49,200P / Time: 1 year 6 months​

VS.

=545P / Time: Not Needed​

Skildek Vaporizer (L) Tier 0.0
Tier @ Time of Purchase: 0.0
Value: 545 Peds?
Cost To Tier: Not Needed
Time Tiering: Not Needed


Clearly, I have invested wisly all my gear combined...
Dwarf'ed by a 545 Ped Rocket @ Token Trader

Cost: 49,200P VS 545P
Time: 1 year 6 months VS Time Spent on AH getting Tokens

Thanks MA for rewarding all my hard work and Peds! :clap:


One more thing,
Everyone Posting You Like Vapo: please list your PK Gear, its Value and how long it took you to get it there.
Thanks!
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not to be offensive but none this guns can kill joda :D
tango tier 6 here but still not match for joda
and you don't have to worried :D no one gonna use vaporizer on you:laugh:

ps battle joda and you see how hard he is especially when all shots are miss miss miss
 
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mai isma apari said:
not to be offensive but none this guns can kill joda :D
tango tier 6 here but still not match for joda
and you don't have to worried :D no one gonna use vaporizer on you:laugh:
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Maybe when I get T7 then ill pop Joda for lol's and see what happens:lift:

My point is not that there going to use it on me, just that ive worked hard to get my gear into killer range,
All that ped spent to be effective in PK...
People dont have to spend anything to be 10x any of my gear. No real skill needed like big (L) gun that require aim and PK practice.

Hell I could have just bought a Vapo and be 10x what I am now :launcher:
 
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KullXP said:
Maybe when I get T7 then ill pop Joda for lol's and see what happens:lift:

My point is not that there going to use it on me, just that ive worked hard to get my gear into killer range,
All that ped spent to be effective in PK...
People dont have to spend anything to be 10x any of my gear. No real skill needed like big (L) gun that require aim and PK practice.

Hell I could have just bought a Vapo and be 10x what I am now :launcher:
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well the deference of tango and UL guns is you run to a repair terminal and is fix (L) weapon die and have to shot to tier agan plus MU :S every shot is not 1 ped like tango or any UL guns :laugh:
 
mai isma apari said:
well the deference of tango and UL guns is you run to a repair terminal and is fix (L) weapon die and have to shot to tier agan plus MU :S every shot is not 1 ped like tango or any UL guns :laugh:
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Yes that is true,
Bottom line is MA has gave such weapons to the masses, its unfair to those who work really hard in this game to be killed in a place like pvp4, were ppl skill hard and gear up to go and have access to.

Now all can get a rocket and have access to it with little work.

If Joda comes at me in pvp4 I shouldnt be able to kill him, not many should... Hes worked really hard and earned the right to be able to dominate.

But, in a team you should be able to over take him. That is the way it should be, not everyone should being able to 1 vs 1 a player who far out skills them.

This is the way it is in everything, 1 man cant tear down a big building, but many can.

No one solo's a husk?
 
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Ohhh dear, you guys give more drama then us girls :p
But i can see it from hulks view! Not alot of pvp fighting in a one shoot! I could imagine it takes away the fun in pvping! Cuz from what i can read from this its more the fight then the kill its self thats make pvp fun and worth spending peds on here!
But i could be wrong
 
You are obsolutely wrong to believe that invest money on any item makes you any different than anyone else and believe that a special treatment OR a way tosecure your investment be given .. youre dead wrong :yup:
Deposit into the game does not grant you anything but more possibility in this rce.. a HoF wont be granted from the system to you. That special you. cause you did put cash in.. thats dumb.
Because you paid an item for xxk ped does not mean the designer cant add more of that item. New items also. Look back.. people owning different stuff adapt when sib came out and they still do each time a rebalance occurs.. when felis came out ppl bought and used em. Though at the time it was far greater than anything else. When rockets first came out 1 shot kill were common and still is.
Y'all need to stop believing that cash you invested makes you above.. its nothing more than a choice of yours and you feed MA staff. Your risk and if you still cant materialize that thought in your brain after all the time spent ingame i feel sorry for you.

as for the vaporizer. The gun is around and i dont think it going anywhere. Buy one. Align with the tendancy and blast on sight.
I refuse to be traped in the past game you arr trying to live in. Running around with 300hp is soon to be common and i hope the game has plan for 500hp+ and deeper content/ project.

Dont expect any more post. This thread got a double life already extrapoling on pretty much anything.. we have more serious pvp issue than a gun which isnt an issue in itself
 
SHY said:
Don't whine and cry to get the environment adapted to your wishes to be a winner...
Adapt yourself to the environment and become a winner!

Can repeat that over and over and over.. but it seems that some people just wont get it.
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Omg you right! Now go and real all Isma posts and you gonna see that he got all things he did ask - no radar, change on team tags and so... Now he asking new sword with low lvl and 500 damage. Lets see how long it will take him to get what he want! In that time others skilling hard to use high lvl weapons that cost a lot and cant do so good!

drewbot said:
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You even dont max it. Ubah! :laugh: But still can kill anyone you like! For sure good gun!
 
Cerberis said:
Omg you right! Now go and real all Isma posts and you gonna see that he got all things he did ask - no radar, change on team tags and so... Now he asking new sword with low lvl and 500 damage. Lets see how long it will take him to get what he want! In that time others skilling hard to use high lvl weapons that cost a lot and cant do so good!



You even dont max it. Ubah! :laugh: But still can kill anyone you like! For sure good gun!
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Are you mad because I dont max it? Do me a favor. STFU!
 
Cerberis said:
Now he asking new sword with low lvl and 500 damage.
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More high power low level heavy decay etc in the hands of masses of noobs is good business for MA, more fun for noobs and bigger loot pool contributions for all. better business than fewer uber gear and limited workers to use them ;)

Soon as i get some decent shares in MA, that man and the man voting to replace all the ubers with cheaper workhorses gets my vote....oh hang on.....hmmmmmm

It's business, it's life, sink, swim or get a sub.........(L) ;)
 
cool, didn't even know there was such a weapon. I'll try to buy one and check out pvp for maybe the first time ever. :)

Regards
Thark
 
Thark said:
cool, didn't even know there was such a weapon. I'll try to buy one and check out pvp for maybe the first time ever. :)

Regards
Thark
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Let's hug and come together?
 
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