Btw mods, isn't this off topic?
Lol @ you guys whining in 14 pAgnes about a gun
Btw mods, isn't this off topic?
I think no one here would would complain at all if Linz won his category with it [terminator] every year.
i bet 10k ped against this...
Hehe. Got the same feeling. The same people will find something else to whine about.
And to the people over, the gun is not owned by one avatar. The price at the time of the sale was high and I guess it's the reason it wasn't sold to one avatar. It was high just because both the buyer and the seller saw the potential of this gun. This is a RCE and they saw that this gun combined with their skills was a good investment just like anyone else could have done. What we see here in this thread is a shitload of people that don't get that this was a thought trough high risk investment that is now paying off. Anyone was free to do it but few have the balls to do so and figures that it's easier and risk free to whine on the forums.
No, YOU still don't get it. No one is mad at Jimmy and Linz for using THEIR gun to win THEIR category (5). People are upset that their friends or *possible* alts are using this gun to win OTHER categories. They could lock down Cats2-5, top 3 in every cat, forever. So what would be the point in this event even taking place? MA can just give items to them every year, and their 10 other friends.
It's really blowing my mind, that throughout this entire thread, you have yet to understand this. Why is it you think people are made about them winning #1 and #2 in Cat5 with a gun they bought?
No, YOU still don't get it. No one is mad at Jimmy and Linz for using THEIR gun to win THEIR category (5). People are upset that their friends or *possible* alts are using this gun to win OTHER categories. They could lock down Cats2-5, top 3 in every cat, forever. So what would be the point in this event even taking place? MA can just give items to them every year, and their 10 other friends.
It's really blowing my mind, that throughout this entire thread, you have yet to understand this. Why is it you think people are made about them winning #1 and #2 in Cat5 with a gun they bought?
Maybe it would just be enough to introduce new (L) weapons that beat Terminator in dmg/sec and require relative high skills, so to allow Mayhem partecipants to invest into gear for an event and to balance a bit the event.
There are already wepons that can be used only in Cyrene Hub, so why not exeptional weapons that work only in dungeons and event areas?
This would keep the possibility to win prizes with unL weapons but not to be 100% sure to get first position each year.
The terminator isn't really a big problem. It's just a few people here that is trying to create a problem. Before the terminator the helena-whining-choir was whining about Star using DOA impsh with his skills it was really unfair. Before that I think it was about Mod-dar and Art of war and so on. Believe me, they will find a new thing to whine about.
It seems like the problem is not the Terminator itself, is the abuse of it to collect top prizes. To have an event that already have the first prizes "reserved" sounds unfair, regardless the highest chance to win these prizes from who invested in gear is to be kept in some way.
It's a matter of balance, if MM would be balanced the top prizes would be accessible to more than one player but this isn't how it works now.
It seems like the problem is not the Terminator itself, is the abuse of it to collect top prizes. To have an event that already have the first prizes "reserved" sounds unfair, regardless the highest chance to win these prizes from who invested in gear is to be kept in some way.
It's a matter of balance, if MM would be balanced the top prizes would be accessible to more than one player but this isn't how it works now.
You are absolutely right about reserving all the top prizes for one weapon being unfair. Minim keeps arguing about how the owner should be allowed to win. Duh, we all agree. I never cared that Star was using the Imp DOA to win stuff, but if he threw it to his 10-12 closest friends to also "reserve" the prizes, then it's an issue.
Simple solution, as stated before, item sets must be REGISTERED to an avatar prior to competition commencing.
Yeah it's all about one item and not about a combination of great gear and skills. c'mon ^^
No, of course skills and gear matter together. But a low level "friend" can still use non-SIBs like Terminator loaned out to them, and even without maxing it, absolutely wreck all the people in that category that are actually using their own gear they've worked for.
In Category 5, skills definitely matter the most because it comes down to super high evade/dodge and HP.
I'm struggling to think of other competitions in the world where its okay for competitors to share equipment with their friends. Certainly none of the Olympic competitors share equipment. You won't see the USA build the most amazing bobsled ever, and then let Britain and Sweden use it. Sure, we're all friends, but its simply not allowed. Officials have to check registered equipment for all teams prior to competition, after that, no swapsies!!
lol you could at least use 2.5 minute to do some research before you jump onto helena's mumbo jumbo. Terminator is a sib gun and can't really be useful below it's level to use like most other sib guns.
So, how do we as a community in EU suggest on the future mechanics of MM (via polls/surveys submitted to MA)? (Do like the Halloween Mayhem mechanics of collecting pumkins as pts?).
Try looking at it from their perspective. I see it as a opportunity for them to make back more of their investment since this gun obviously was not free. It was also on the market before mayhem so if you wanted you could have bought it and only won your category if that was the main thing. Hunter is strykers RL brother and he is for sure no alt, Braxhona was constantly fapping stryker for years. If I owned this gun I would have lended it to my little brother or to a friend that used a LOT of his spare time on helping me if they asked.
I don't get why I bother to "defend" them but I find the discussion really stupid and childish and can't keep myself I guess.
I LOVE that you mentioned the Neuro Stims. Yes, we were able to use them so we could keep up with the Terminator.
OH WAIT! This is the DUMBEST thing I've read! Why? Because the minute Terminator users use the Neuro Stim, any ground gained by EVERYONE ELSE is gone. Do you REALLY think that a Cat3 or Cat4 competitor can come EVEN CLOSE to the Terminator with Neuro Stims? Even EMW couldn't compete with the Terminator using Neuro Stims, and he has the second best DPS in game. He didn't finish his hours, but if he had, he still wouldn't have been close to those top 2 scores in Cat5 even using Neuro Stims.
And what is the price for the Terminator? Do you really think someone in Cat3 is going to be able to afford that gun? If they could they wouldn't be in Cat3. And they sure as hell aren't going to loan it out to people they don't know which is 99% of the population.
Not to mention, if the owners are loaning the Terminator out to other avatars, but playing the avatars themselves... kind of against the EULA isn't it?
This reminds me of the real life issues we face right now. The 1% will ALWAYS make excuses for, and back up, the other 1%. With the exception of very few, I don't think Star and EMW are okay with this mess.
You are proof of this. You've only been around for a few years and bought your way towards the top. The rest of us who have played hard for far longer, who cannot afford to just purchase uberness, do NOT like cheating by the rich.
Oh, and I've witnessed Linz hunting outside of competition with the Terminator, because its not just useful for those scenarios.
Quit being so negative about things. I simply tried to discuss things in a civil manner and you attacked me and even gave me negative reputation. How thoughtful of you. If you don't agree with something then don't participate, plain and simple. Do you ever see me participating in shard loot events? No. I also don't come on here to complain about it either.
~Danimal
Stop whinning and go enjoy the game the way it was meant to be. If you feel that it is SO unfair...
You should demand of MA to check how many of the players in the top has double avatars because it is forbidden by their rules.
yeah wtf is the point with categories. When there was only one category mayhem was fun!