It is sad these stories happen.
Never trust anyone on the internet. Is why I am still Freelancer and prefer solo activities.
Thanks jqkill.
/mod note/
A translation of the text by any member not involved in this issue would be appreciated.
As the accused person has voluntarily identified himself, I will not mod out further posting of his name.
BabyOxide, I appreciate you're upset about what's happened, but the 'all trades are final' rule has been in place since the beginning, and I doubt you were unaware of it.
To everyone, unless you have personal knowledge of the alleged events, please don't post accusations or speculation or drag up unrelated matters.
I'll leave the thread open for now, however if it become nothing more than a personal dispute with accusation & counter accusation and I'll not only close it but remove it from the forum under rule 2.3.
I have typed all that led to this drama of him bad mouthing about me 5 times and then erased it. I do not see any point in sharing all the details. I made the support case right after he accused me of stealing his mod fap and the shit storm of private messages started. I was only worried about 1 fact that in all his lies he claimed many times that he has official ties with MA. In reply to my support i was ensured that they have taken notice of the harassment messages and they will do something about it. Most importantly they said that he is not an official of MA and also told me not to provide wrong information because they could not find him saying that in chat logs. I wanted to reply to that by saying to check back a little further then just one day but the support case was closed. I did not bother make a new one because all i wanted to know was if he is an official or not which he is not clearly.
About the back operation he mentioned.. Yea after that he also lost his business abroad that means more days off after that somebody filed a case against his company and he was spending all time fighting it off with the lawyers from the firm he owns ofc and after settling that a truck ran over his car and he has broken ribs and a knee. That all happened after babyoxide gave him his gear.
In the end. Yes the fap is not mine but i made that clear on my mod fap service thread. eSoul was the previous owner of this awesome tool and he can confirm that we did not stole it from him.
special thanks to strash for the warning in trade channel about this guy. After that time i was careful in dealing with him.
There is so much more i want to tell but probably this is not the best place.
He is a big fat liar. Can prove it with the help of few big names in game after all he claims to be shower buddies with them.
There is a LOT of people that thought this was exactly what he would do...
It is sad these stories happen.
Never trust anyone on the internet. Is why I am still Freelancer and prefer solo activities.
Total Lost to Him:-
13 k peds +- in Mining Amps
1x hk1750 UL tier 7.5 ? with dmg enhancers
1x Jaguar Armour UL Set tier 1 to 3 with armor enhancers
50 AUDs
1x Snub Nose UL
1x Pride, Dignity and Respect
1x Credibility and Fame
Ok good read until you listed what you lost to him. If it is true sorry to hear. But as many have already asked probably why would you give anyone all this?
Hope all works out and remember this is EU.
Red is editing i just did to explain things abit. Thanks for the english version of chatSorry for your loss, really need to be careful when dealing with real money items!
Well here is the translation of the images Andreas posted. I have tried to keep it genuine while translating. Since the first and second image is the same there are only two parts.
First and second image
Andreas: Well just lost my modfap
Amber Knightley: What? that sounds painful?
Andreas: Yeah, shouldn’t have trusted him at all
Andreas: [ali tayyab crazy]
Raynex: did you lend it out or what?
Andreas: Healing service but with MY modfap Your mod fap ? hmmm where did u get it from ? I am willing to bet 5$ your avatar never had a mod fap..just like mod hedoc + perseus armor+mod merc T10 ofc + i am forgetting something...
Amber Knightley: wtf!!!
Andreas: with (referring to a typo in previous comment)
Wed Beetherbell: damn
Andreas: And now he is saying bye bye
Andreas: And we all know what support will say
Wed Beetherbell: All trades are final
Andreas: All trades are final blab la bla
Wed Beetherbell: but didn’t he give any collateral for it?
Wed Beetherbell: or did you just hand over a modfap to a random dude?
Andreas: Only his word and a lot of people vouched for him Who vouched for me????..before mod fap service i was practically invisible... we all know that
Andreas: Including some people I know irl Name one please..only common friends we have are my ex-society mates
Wed Beetherbell: damn
Wed Beetherbell: Haven’t even heard of him before
Amber Kngihtley: think I recognize the name, what soc is he in?
Andreas: He is a healer
Andreas: He was supposed to rent the fap
Andreas: Send him a pm and ask if it is his fap or if he borrowed it from someone I always say its not mine because that is the truth lol.
Andreas: [ali tayyab crazy]
Wed Beetherbell: is he a swede?
Andreas: No name just ask if it is his or if he has borrowed it?
Andreas: Nope
Andreas: He isn’t Swedish but 2 swedes vouched for him
Wed Beetherbell: typing now
Wed Beetherbell: doesn’t seem like he wants to talk with me :S Never received a private message from him.
Andreas: Will have to see what lie he comes up with
Sirre Green: Who?
Andreas: [ali tayyab crazy] stole my modfap
Sirre Green: ?
Sirre Green: is it true?
Andreas: Yeah
Third image
Wed Beetherbell: hope no one
Andreas: Nice of him to mock me now
Andreas: Ignore.. he ignored me when i confronted him about a LIE. He said linzey was some swedish/british chick and she runs a television show and he has RL friendship/relation with her
Wed Beetherbell: what an idiot. he isn’t responding to me at all Never got 1 pm from this guy
Belsebub: hope an honest person manages to “rent” it from him and later you can get it back
Snygglisa: hey!
Andreas: Not a chance, he’ll probably sell it
Andreas: Sells it and cashes out Not selling it
Snygglisa: What now?
Andreas: [ali tayyab crazy] stole my modfap
Snygglisa: for fuck sake
Andreas: Send him a pm and ask if it is his or if he rented it he knows how i reply to that question. I always say its not mine so if the conversation was going to head towards borrowing or renting never happens
rosi: hey
Andreas: He’ll probably come up with a lie I’d guess
rosi: he said I could borrow it
Andreas: he did?
Andreas: I’d pay full price as long as I get it back
rosi: yes sure[ali tayyab crazy]: come here [ali tayyab crazy]: [83756, 83535, 230] [rosi]: omw
rosi: kind of odd, don’t know him…
Snygglisa: see if you can rent it and give it back to Andreas
rosi: haha yeah
Snygglisa: but Andreas should stay far away until the deal is done.
Sessan: Hope it gets solved! Go Andreas!
Sessan: Nicely done Rosi!
Snygglisa: it’s not over yet
Andreas: If you pull it off I’ll give you a nice reward
Snygglisa: how long has he had it without wanting to return it?
rosi: he tricked me :/
Snygglisa: that’s what I expected
rosi: u r advisor in society [ali tayyab crazy]: u shld know better ..[rosi]: lol that is not your fap [ali tayyab crazy] no it is not[ali tayyab crazy]
Andreas: Okay at least he admitted that it isn’t his i did that already on 30 aug 2014 when i made mod fap service thread
Snygglisa: probably need something more substantial
Snygglisa: save the log and give it to MA at a potential dispute They already have log of everything dont worry about it.
rogerriver68 river: copy it
rosi: no it is not [ali tayyab crazy] I stole it That was me trolling and those were first 2 sentence of the whole conversation but somehow she thought it was best to mention it at end.
Andreas: Screenshot right?
Snygglisa: maybe I should ask someone from Romania or something to make a renting mod fap thread on PF.
First, I am shocked that this forum does not allow for the smoking out of weasels skunks and rats, and I must conclude it is complicit in those things which it would cover up. To the people who moderate and run this forum take it any way you like. But then I come from a country where there is freedom of speech and press... And libel is not a crime if it is fact.
2. The new owner arranged something with Ali .. this one is right on the money !So after reading all the posts the real question is who is the owner of the fap ( Just try to summarize )
1. Adde claims he is the owner and Ali stole it from him
2. Ali claims it is not his, but he is using Elle's ModFap
3. The ModFap service started shortly after Elle sold his Fap here: https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...-Pack-Tier-1&p=3283262&viewfull=1#post3283262
My guess would be based on current information:
1. Elle arranged something with Ali
2. The new owner arranged something with Ali
3. Adde claims to be owner of heaps of uber gear https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...a204-Imp-mk2-Shadow-and-Supremacy)&highlight=
But noone ever in the socs saw using uber gear:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...Artist-Alert&p=3361581&viewfull=1#post3361581
Neither in Apoc ?
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...Artist-Alert&p=3361515&viewfull=1#post3361515
But regarding the claim of his ModFap it was bought bought this after Ali'sservice started ? So how can adde be the owner of the FAP in question?
Am i missing something ?
Regarding the items mentzioned in OP in no doubt Adde was in the possession and tried to sell them:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...Ranked-HK-1750-amp-Jaguar-Male-set&highlight=
So now OP claims items in qustion were his, and Adde scammed these from him
With all the information given in the thread personally i have strong doubts Adde's part of the story is true because well all the information adds up to a certain picture of his character ( i might be wrong, just summarizing the information given )
@OP thx for posting
3. Adde claims to be owner of heaps of uber gear https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...a204-Imp-mk2-Shadow-and-Supremacy)&highlight=
But noone ever in the socs saw using uber gear:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...Artist-Alert&p=3361581&viewfull=1#post3361581
Neither in Apoc ?
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...Artist-Alert&p=3361515&viewfull=1#post3361515