Granny Rowan
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Kronan was attacked yesterday evening as we started our scheduled warps.
On exiting Arkadia SS we noticed Varyag by the spacestation and that various known names were in our nearby list. This included Albert Einstein SpecialRelativity, Don DonDraco Draco, Sebastian Bas Luxford, Samir Cursor Saigh and we know Yoshii Yoshii Lem the owner was on board but not in a seat
Cursor (NVE or ex NVE ?) and DonDraco (at the time of the attack a member of Defiant Veterans) came after us in quads, I was expecting delays going to warp. But instead they started a sustained attack as soon as we exited safe space. A short while later the mothership Varyag joined in the attack and began shooting Kronan.
This was not a delaying tactic this was a serious and sustained attack lasting almost 8 minutes.
We did not immediately return fire, in case this was just a silly show of bravado, however once it was clear that they intended to destroy us, we engaged them.
The end result was our (2) gunners destroyed the 2 quads twice, and then took out the Varyag.
We then warped and continued our normal schedule uninterrupted.
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During the attack I had put a shout in the 3 space chats to inform people we were under attack and once the seriousness of the attack became evident I also posted the following:
2015-04-09 00:44:13 [#space_travel] [Granny Rowan Render] Varyag is attacking Kronan.. seems they went pirate
After the attack, away from the heat of the moment, the following chats set me to wondering where one draws the line, what is an act of piracy??
2015-04-09 00:54:03 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] Varyag and crew attacked Kronan as she left Arkadia for scheduled warps
2015-04-09 00:54:24 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] After several minutes of attacking us they were all downed
2015-04-09 00:54:44 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] we will be posting video and screenies after the flight
2015-04-09 00:55:02 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] people can then judge for themselves
2015-04-09 00:55:39 [#space] [Ultimate Spirit Chaser Shirow] did they blow up the ship and loot anyone ?
2015-04-09 00:55:44 [#space] [Ultimate Spirit Chaser Shirow] if no then its not a pirate
2015-04-09 00:56:01 [#space] [Ultimate Spirit Chaser Shirow] annoyance maybe , but not pirate
2015-04-09 00:59:20 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] how is unprovoked attack on a service ship during scheduled warps not the action of a pirate ??
2015-04-09 00:59:47 [#space] [Milela Sakuba Wilnfe] How can one make a judgement on an ongoing fued between two parties. Who is to know who drew first blood after such a lengthy tit for tat campaigne.
2015-04-09 00:59:55 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] or do you let people destroy your ship and kill your passengers before deciding they are pirate
2015-04-09 01:01:48 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] this is not the first time a member of Varyag crew has shot at Kronan, it is however the first time we have returned fire
I have no doubt that this thread will lead to a set of accusations and counter accusations, and tbh most of you don’t give a damn what our arguments are about. Months of griefing of Kronan and her crew culminated in this attack, despite our trying to ignore it as much as humanly possible.
So my question is this.. should I view last night’s attack as part of a private feud (however one-sided), and just get over it, or is the attack of a mothership during her scheduled warps an act of piracy?
Personally it is my belief that Varyag has now crossed the line, and should be declared a pirate ship, rather than just a pirate sympathiser and griefer.
They deliberately undertook this attack knowing we would be likely to be carrying passengers. They were therefore willing to inconvenience and scare other players, and who knows whether they would have looted them or not, had the result been any different.
Please note the soc Defiant Veterans has now removed Bas and Dondraco from their membership. Not for attacking Kronan but for other behaviours. The Kronan and her crew have no issues with the soc Defiant Veterans and our relationship is cordial.
On exiting Arkadia SS we noticed Varyag by the spacestation and that various known names were in our nearby list. This included Albert Einstein SpecialRelativity, Don DonDraco Draco, Sebastian Bas Luxford, Samir Cursor Saigh and we know Yoshii Yoshii Lem the owner was on board but not in a seat
Cursor (NVE or ex NVE ?) and DonDraco (at the time of the attack a member of Defiant Veterans) came after us in quads, I was expecting delays going to warp. But instead they started a sustained attack as soon as we exited safe space. A short while later the mothership Varyag joined in the attack and began shooting Kronan.
This was not a delaying tactic this was a serious and sustained attack lasting almost 8 minutes.
We did not immediately return fire, in case this was just a silly show of bravado, however once it was clear that they intended to destroy us, we engaged them.
The end result was our (2) gunners destroyed the 2 quads twice, and then took out the Varyag.
We then warped and continued our normal schedule uninterrupted.
<removed link to vid clip>
During the attack I had put a shout in the 3 space chats to inform people we were under attack and once the seriousness of the attack became evident I also posted the following:
2015-04-09 00:44:13 [#space_travel] [Granny Rowan Render] Varyag is attacking Kronan.. seems they went pirate
After the attack, away from the heat of the moment, the following chats set me to wondering where one draws the line, what is an act of piracy??
2015-04-09 00:54:03 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] Varyag and crew attacked Kronan as she left Arkadia for scheduled warps
2015-04-09 00:54:24 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] After several minutes of attacking us they were all downed
2015-04-09 00:54:44 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] we will be posting video and screenies after the flight
2015-04-09 00:55:02 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] people can then judge for themselves
2015-04-09 00:55:39 [#space] [Ultimate Spirit Chaser Shirow] did they blow up the ship and loot anyone ?
2015-04-09 00:55:44 [#space] [Ultimate Spirit Chaser Shirow] if no then its not a pirate
2015-04-09 00:56:01 [#space] [Ultimate Spirit Chaser Shirow] annoyance maybe , but not pirate
2015-04-09 00:59:20 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] how is unprovoked attack on a service ship during scheduled warps not the action of a pirate ??
2015-04-09 00:59:47 [#space] [Milela Sakuba Wilnfe] How can one make a judgement on an ongoing fued between two parties. Who is to know who drew first blood after such a lengthy tit for tat campaigne.
2015-04-09 00:59:55 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] or do you let people destroy your ship and kill your passengers before deciding they are pirate
2015-04-09 01:01:48 [#space] [Granny Rowan Render] this is not the first time a member of Varyag crew has shot at Kronan, it is however the first time we have returned fire
I have no doubt that this thread will lead to a set of accusations and counter accusations, and tbh most of you don’t give a damn what our arguments are about. Months of griefing of Kronan and her crew culminated in this attack, despite our trying to ignore it as much as humanly possible.
So my question is this.. should I view last night’s attack as part of a private feud (however one-sided), and just get over it, or is the attack of a mothership during her scheduled warps an act of piracy?
Personally it is my belief that Varyag has now crossed the line, and should be declared a pirate ship, rather than just a pirate sympathiser and griefer.
They deliberately undertook this attack knowing we would be likely to be carrying passengers. They were therefore willing to inconvenience and scare other players, and who knows whether they would have looted them or not, had the result been any different.
Please note the soc Defiant Veterans has now removed Bas and Dondraco from their membership. Not for attacking Kronan but for other behaviours. The Kronan and her crew have no issues with the soc Defiant Veterans and our relationship is cordial.
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