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Discussion: "Explosive-gate"

Im not sure if there is a CAP on Explosive BP's like most other things.

But the crafting community could get together and all pitch in some PED and use that PED to buy up all the explosive BP's possible. Then stick them in an storage box and be done with it.

Very poor fix, put all the PED lost due to this BP you can just use it now to make a brighter future.
 
MA can simply remove nanocube, it's not like it would be the first time they removed needed ngredient for blueprint.
 
xian said:
MA can simply remove nanocube, it's not like it would be the first time they removed needed ngredient for blueprint.
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My question is...would it really be that simple?

http://www.mindark.com/investor-relations/financial-reports/documents/ANNUAL_REPORT_MindArk_2013.pdf

Refer to pg 9 of the annual report 2013.

For the past few years, 2009 to 2013, they have been running a loss every single year. Would it be incorrect to say they're running on fumes?

Assets are decreasing and so is its equity. Are they cannibalizing themselves?

Still the same conclusion...wait and see the annual report 2014 to see if things have turned around.

(If it doesn't...I'm not the least bit surprised about the introduction of EP BPs, ferrari equus and other whatnots they have planning in store.)
 
Neil Stockton said:
That's why we see mineral markups at an all time high?

No. We see reduced mining in combination with all time LOW mineral markups. Look at mineral markup histories, 95% crashed at the end of december when explosive bps were released. Smart miners aren't using amps because there's no point in amping for 105% minerals. It's never been harder for me to sell amps.
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Sales of all the popular amps, lv5,7 d-class have ALL increased in sales.

What is your point?


Rgds

Ace
 
Ace Flyster said:
Sales of all the popular amps, lv5,7 d-class have ALL increased in sales.

What is your point?


Rgds

Ace
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I've picked up quite a few level 5's at 100% (no mark up) on last orders, increase in sales doesn't mean all is good. Not saying all is bad either, but the fact i have been able to get them at no mark up on open auction says something.
 
BBpunisher said:
Let's face it...MA will not remove the bp.

Hopefully MA has a plan. Who knows...maybe more space related bps consuming ores? I hope so :)
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Yes. MA will not remove the bp:s but this has removed a large bit of deposits from players because the trust to the game has become smaller.
 
Norbert said:
I've picked up quite a few level 5's at 100% (no mark up) on last orders, increase in sales doesn't mean all is good. Not saying all is bad either, but the fact i have been able to get them at no mark up on open auction says something.
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I didnt say it was good.

I was pointing out the flaw in his argument, that sales has gone down in amps. It hasnt...


Rgds

Ace
 
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What I find most worrisome is the fact that the economy crashes when idvali and kunrad stop crafting normal items.
 
sawachika said:
My question is...would it really be that simple?

http://www.mindark.com/investor-relations/financial-reports/documents/ANNUAL_REPORT_MindArk_2013.pdf

Refer to pg 9 of the annual report 2013.

For the past few years, 2009 to 2013, they have been running a loss every single year. Would it be incorrect to say they're running on fumes?

Assets are decreasing and so is its equity. Are they cannibalizing themselves?

Still the same conclusion...wait and see the annual report 2014 to see if things have turned around.

(If it doesn't...I'm not the least bit surprised about the introduction of EP BPs, ferrari equus and other whatnots they have planning in store.)
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Never report your companys gaining money unless you have a certain type of investors.

Find anyway to report losses somewhere so that you gain more back and pay less taxes.

Basic 101.



Note: If they were truly losing money im sure they would have pulled the plug.
 
i am really afraid eu could die if they don't change anything...

the high ep bps are part of the following:
rce dies, no one wanna play 70% return casino bugged as eu...
monria, ul items, LAs, everything "worth" sth crashes in price...
cld will follow, now ppl invest in them for easy earning and land but owning land will suck
and return on cld will fade away as more and more ppl get sick of eu...

who wanna join this game nowadays when there are 1000s of free to play games and you can't even make money here anymore? because they kill rce (the possibility to make money) which is THE ONLY thing making this game interesting!
(there were times 10s of ppl could break even/profit by just farming gazz from drones, because there was a market and this was no secret)

lots of ppl stop playing, even myself think about selling out...because i really don't see much future when i see whats happening currently (compet will fail...i tell you)
 
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Im pretty sure thats the point, if less ppl making money off this game its more return to them.

If they can make it damn near impossible to withdraw then all peds coming in stays in the MA Bank.

Explosive BP's is killing mat retrading for those traders who buy @ nearly TT and sell in big stacks then withdraw.

And more UL weapons means alot less ppl buying looted weapons and cause demand do go down supply up and there goes the possibilty of retrading guns.

Get the old wise players out and new fresh blood in. = more Profits less withdraws
 
Ace Flyster said:
Sales of all the popular amps, lv5,7 d-class have ALL increased in sales.

What is your point?


Rgds

Ace
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I believe the majority of these amps in the past were sold in large P2P batches, not on auction. Those decreased as bigger miners stopped mining due to low ore MU. So for the medium sized amps, the official market data is not very enlightening. From personal experience, it is much, much harder to sell amps now at current market prices than it was before the explosive BPs, demand has been much reduced, regardless of what the "official" numbers from MA say. Also, don't forget the massive mining events that occurred right after explosive-gate.
 
Ok way i see it with these blueprints is they have for me a positive and a negative.

Starting with the negative, Because everyone is cycleing ped on these blueprints i have noticed its harder getting the so called balancers on normal standard blueprints. Generally just loseing tt wise on most blueprints. hunters and miners get less mu.

The positive is i can now buy ores cheap on certain blueprints and able to run them on condition or qty without loseing lots of mark up on the ores.
For instance 1 example is lifescanner 1 blueprint which requires zinc (102%-103%) melchi (105%) havent logged in a few days so those mu's might be off. While you will lose money running this blueprint in either condition or qty this blueprint does drop high mu blueprints which you can actually make money from. For instance vivo ur175 rk-5 resource extractor re 202 vivo t5 t10 t15 t20 and the adapted versions (limited blueprints not unlimited). Ofc the success rate is an issue atm but wether this is to do with explosive blueprints only ma knows.

So with the above example only 1 i might add why would you run an explosive blueprint with a guaranteed loss when you can run lifescanner 1 for max 105%mu with a chance to get some blueprints which actually are worth 800000% ????. Just my view but this is why im 50 50 on them.
 
slick27 said:
So with the above example only 1 i might add why would you run an explosive blueprint with a guaranteed loss when you can run lifescanner 1 for max 105%mu with a chance to get some blueprints which actually are worth 800000% ????. Just my view but this is why im 50 50 on them.
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Easy - laziness. No need to go looking for resources on the auction or other players or even mining. Just login, go to the tt, buy everything in one go and then step to the left drop it all in the crafting terminal and go afk for the day with fingers crossed for a hof or ath when you come back.

Imagine if Vegas casinos did that, just put in your credit card leave it for the day and come back to see if you've won anything.
 
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