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ktpsmf

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Hello all,
just wanted to start discussion about botting in entropia.

i saw that Mindark implemented new crafting system a year ago, that made people "indirect" bots.

1. people started to craft automaticly , because new craft system let do it. (no need to click just put ammount to craft and even can place to aukcion)

2. Mindark added such action buttons like - auto move, auto shoot, move to target . I saw one video of Tacos that he streamed a guy that configured some macros to go sweat by some random commands.

what is your opinion is it bad ? why mindark added this functions to game ? anyone uses it in simple game play purpose?

Do you think afk playing (crafting, sweating) helps game or it destroy it ?
 
I craft alot and repair on Motherships so I find it most usefull :)
 
I need to make lots of components to use as ingredients in crafted weapons and armour. Without autocraft it wouldnt be practical.

I use autofire in hunting because it is efficient, compared to manual clicking. It gives me higher dps cos I shoot at the highest possible rate for the gun.

I don't see a problem with either of these game mechanics
 
It helps.

I can chat while repairing and hunting. Especially large mobs like the sand king, 15 minutes of clicking would kill me.

Also, quite painless to hit a big lyst or oil nowadays. And crafting. Who are we kidding? The autoclickers were going like crazy, especially as it was sort of approved by the support team.
 
Having the Auto-use Tool is great and the benefit varies with activity. Great if you're shooing at a mob with high health but you're more inclined to be alert and ready anyway for another action when hunting. Pulling up a big mining claim is easier too. Quite honestly if the manufacturing terminal didn't allow automated attempts I simply wouldn't bother unless I could use some other software.

I've seen that vid you mention ("bots be botting" or so) and honestly I can't see what advantage it gives the guy. He's better off doing it normally. Same goes for 'afk sweating' - seems pointless if you'll just get hit enough times to end up at the revival and the mob runs out of sweat anyway.

Interesting to consider the opinions around use of macros or auto-click software over the years. Had you asked the same question 10 years ago, I wonder what responses you will have had :)
 
ktpsmf said:
Do you think afk playing (crafting, sweating) helps game or it destroy it ?
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Community wise it doesn't help that someone could be at work while their ava is bot skilling / crafting. A newbie tries to ask a question on a soc channel where it appears a lot of people are on only to get no answer, it looks like their being ignored but it could be their entire soc is afk.

Adding a 'continue' button on auto crafting or extracting after 20-30 clicks would only hurt players doing it afk.
 
If you create hard work design to get stuff done, people will use automated software to solve this.
Mind Ark will have to put employees at work to find these exploiters and that costs money.

By adding these as features and fold the design around it, Mind Ark won't need to investigate as much.

You may not believe it but there are actually companies that develop bot software that play games.
 
Those tools you cite are their to prevent RSI. People's abuse of those tools is the problem, not the tools themselves.
 
Talk to chaseMLB on what he thinks about the game when he hit an uber on crude oil he extracted manually before he knew there was auto use tool.

Take that feature away.. this game implodes. I can't believe it ever existed without it.
 
ktpsmf said:
Do you think afk playing (crafting, sweating) helps game or it destroy it ?
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Maybe would be fun to see LA owner runing behind miner or hunter and trying to get LA tax paid in personal trade window?
Or maybe we shud see ressellers running arround auctioner for 7 days until their relisted things are sold or expired.
Maybe shop owners shud be all time present and not afk or loged off to make their shops functional?
Maybe CLD owners shud be loged in every day and not afk to get weekly dividents?
Im sure there are a lot more situations where a being afk or even loged off is kinda normal.

Crafting - active or afk mean consumption with biger probability that one who craft non stop will consume more so sooner or latter will deposit more..
I sweat when im tired or after long hunts, its relaxing with auto tool.
It help to socialise, to learn, to do things at home when you need to be afk, it help to love EU more.
Everything is better than being loged off and not playing.
 
I would actually play again as a hunter IF auto hunting existed.
 
These "new and improved" features were pretty much in direct conflict with the original design philosophy of Project Entropia, where it was envisioned that crafting and the like would essentially be virtual version of telepresence, and would work hand-in-hand with the RCE to produce jobs for people.

Sadly, key persons from those innovative days are no more to be seen on planet, the forums, or at MA. The guy running it all now was the disk duplicator operator in those glory days.
 
AlphaGeek said:
These "new and improved" features were pretty much in direct conflict with the original design philosophy of Project Entropia, where it was envisioned that crafting and the like would essentially be virtual version of telepresence, and would work hand-in-hand with the RCE to produce jobs for people.

Sadly, key persons from those innovative days are no more to be seen on planet, the forums, or at MA. The guy running it all now was the disk duplicator operator in those glory days.
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same what i wanted to say,
Entropia universe lost its real purpose by going to automated money spent machine
 
ktpsmf said:
Hello all,
just wanted to start discussion about botting in entropia.

i saw that Mindark implemented new crafting system a year ago, that made people "indirect" bots.

1. people started to craft automaticly , because new craft system let do it. (no need to click just put ammount to craft and even can place to aukcion)

2. Mindark added such action buttons like - auto move, auto shoot, move to target . I saw one video of Tacos that he streamed a guy that configured some macros to go sweat by some random commands.

what is your opinion is it bad ? why mindark added this functions to game ? anyone uses it in simple game play purpose?

Do you think afk playing (crafting, sweating) helps game or it destroy it ?
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Why would you care about our answers? You're not like.... playing, are you?
 
For crafting people were already resorting to macro's to auto-craft. MA merely opened up auto-crafting to a wider public by providing this functionality in-game.

I think botting is something different. Bots would need to use information from the screen that is designed to only be read and interpreted by a human and act on that in-game.

Auto clicking is hardly botting and is good for the game, if only for allowing more PED to be cycled.
Botting is not good for the game, because it allows an advantage to be played without scarcity (time).
 
It existed before its was implented. Now it just got official and people dont have to lie about it.
 
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