Vixen Android Pet

The rep was for supporting Vixens on Calypso. I think we should be able to spawn them there as well.
 
Just one funny fact: i have received 4 neg reps for my previous posts here (from ppl all supporting cyborgs/monsters with visual appearance of a woman being tameable) and ALL 4 are men who are playing female avatar... Creeepy..

Lol good idea for next question to put in vote or poll

but this time instead of simple answer yes-no we give choice one of 4 possible answers

Why did you create and play with female ava?
- im a woman
- im a pervert and doing with my female slave ava whatever i want
- im a gay
- scaming purposes
 
Good heavens! This thread has hit a new level of incoherency! I don't know whether to be bemused or dumbfounded at some of this bickering. Such a shame as there were some well made points previously, now it seems the re-rinses of previous points have lapsed, and we are left with the dredging up of some quite disconcerting ideas. Prime example of what was pointed out earlier in terms of impressibility.
 
Good heavens! This thread has hit a new level of incoherency! I don't know whether to be bemused or dumbfounded at some of this bickering. Such a shame as there were some well made points previously, now it seems the re-rinses of previous points have lapsed, and we are left with the dredging up of some quite disconcerting ideas. Prime example of what was pointed out earlier in terms of impressibility.

You just cannot admit that Vixens MIGHT not have anything to do with Women Slavery !
Or....
ND is a pervert :D but still I want Vixens on Calypso !
 
There was this other 3D environment (don't mentioning names to not get deleted). Ppl could create content, own avatars and own game logic. For way too long there were no rules, everything was allowed. All big companies (Ford, NBC, Fox News, name it) were there and had their own island.

And guess what: no rules, so of course ppl programmed pedo stuff. Players could act as kids and babies and get paid to be abused by other avatars. Yes, it was all pixels. Was it OK? No.

Result: all big companies left this "game", because they created rules way too late.

Do you want this to happen to Entropia? I don't.
I do.
I mean, it would be good for the business to have Ford, NBC, fox News and Name It - all here, each with their entire separate planet. ;)

Well. We're not SL. Let's be realistic, we're below radar, nobody knows we even exist. Apples and Oranges.
What we need right now is a little bit of controversy and some free media coverage.

So, what could we try? Maybe "Tamable female android pets whipped into slavery"? Oh wait, we already have that. If we restrict it to one planet only or not might be a very important question for us, insiders. It doesn't mean anything to the ppl out there who know nothing about EU. What's done is already done.

So u saying it will be a disaster of unbelievable magnitude? I think you're an optimist...

But in case your right and we get some media coverage, that would be a good thing. If we really lucky and manage to increase our playerbase, say, tenfold at least... That's not so hard actually.
Suppose we lose half of the potential customers because of the controversy, well, then we increase the playerbase only 5 times. And get rid of all this rigid hypocrite uncool folks we don't want to see here anyway. Win/win. :wtg:

After that, yes i agree, we might have to slow down a bit. Maybe take a step back n look at the big picture figure out our next steps. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
 
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Well. We're not SL. Let's be realistic, we're below radar, nobody knows we even exist. Apples and Oranges.
What we need right now is a little bit of controversy.
So, what could we try? Maybe "Tamable female android pets whipped into slavery"? Oh wait, we already have that.

Why should Entropia continue to be below the radar? Why on earth are MA wasting time and money on advertising, development and Compets if the plan is to keep us as dirty seedy underworld?

I guess I just have hope for the universe, and hate to see it being catapulted backwards in this way.
 
I do.
I mean, it would be good for the business to have Ford, NBC, fox News and Name It - all here, each with their entire separate planet. ;)

Well. We're not SL. Let's be realistic, we're below radar, nobody knows we even exist. Apples and Oranges.
What we need right now is a little bit of controversy.
So, what could we try? Maybe "Tamable female android pets whipped into slavery"? Oh wait, we already have that. If we restrict it to one planet only or not might be a very important question for us, insiders. It doesn't mean anything to the ppl out there who know nothing about EU. What's done is already done.

So u saying it will be a disaster of unbelievable magnitude? I think you're an optimist...

But in case your right and we get some media coverage, that would be a good thing. If we really lucky and manage to increase our playerbase, say, tenfold at least... That's not so hard actually.
Suppose we lose half of the potential customers because of the controversy, well, then we increase the playerbase only 5 times. And get rid of all this rigid hypocrite uncool folks we don't want to see here anyway. Win/win. :wtg:

After that, yes i agree, we might have to slow down a bit. Maybe take a step back n look at the big picture figure out our next steps. We'll cross that brige when we come to it.

People that thought of women slavery MUST BE BANNED ! Not those taming mobs to make money. I bet Hulk didn;t thought... hmmm let me wipe this women and turn it in my personal toy and I will give it to my friends to get abused .... So....
The real problem here is the people that see in this women slavery... not the rest of us that just want COOL PETS ! And yes, I want all the Males that have Female avatars to be BANNED !!!! That is creepy ! and INSANE ! and Supid ! No matter what MU or anything else.... To be a male and buy female clothes to dress up your avatar... bleah !!!! Why nobody talk about that crap ???? and all accept it ? COUSE WE ARE ALL PERVERT IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER !! :))) Come on.... admit it !
The EU commercial : Hey kids, ever dreamed to be a women ? Want your personal women pet? Now is your time, join entropia and make your women character ! Dress, undress, do what you want with that pet ! Abuse it as you dreamed in your childhood !

Cool isn;t it ?
 
Why should Entropia continue to be below the radar? Why on earth are MA wasting time and money on advertising, development and Compets if the plan is to keep us as dirty seedy underworld?

I guess I just have hope for the universe, and hate to see it being catapulted backwards in this way.

We won't be below radar anymore. I can confirm I see EVERYDAY a commercial to EU when looking on youtube!!!
 
Why did you create and play with female ava?
- im a woman
- im a pervert and doing with my female slave ava whatever i want
- im a gay
- scaming purposes
- to piss off Dan
One was missing. Fixt.

Well if u already in the poll creating business, why not add the only meaningful option - "I did it because i can"? :wtg:
 

i don't think it would be good for eu community if we had an influx of ppl coming here because they read and heard about a controversial robot half naked amusement pet girl and join because of that...
 
i don't think it would be good for eu community if we had an influx of ppl coming here because they read and heard about a controversial robot half naked amusement pet girl and join because of that...

LET THEM JOIN AND FEED US WITH MONEY !!!
If people will join and invest thousands of $ for porn, THEN MAKE A PORN PLANET !!!
We need economy ! And is a 18+ already !
We kill eachother in PVP ... means killing other humans!
We whip animals and kill them ... means animal abuse !
We can have female avatars .... woman abuse !
WTF ? We cannot have a female robot PET ? Now we are all with justice and non-violence? Come on ppl.... take your pills :)
 
Players could act as kids and babies and get paid to be abused by other avatars. Yes, it was all pixels. Was it OK? No.

Result: all big companies left this "game", because they created rules way too late.

Do you want this to happen to Entropia? I don't.
I do.
I mean, it would be good for the business to have Ford, NBC, fox News and Name It - all here, each with their entire separate planet. ;)

I find it strange, that you want this to happen to Entropia. According to your text, I assume, this is a misunderstanding. I assume, you want to see that big companies join (unlikely to happen) but you don't want any planet partner to abandon Entropia.


One thing though:
But in case your right and we get some media coverage, that would be a good thing. If we really lucky and manage to increase our playerbase, say, tenfold at least... That's not so hard actually.
Suppose we lose half of the potential customers because of the controversy, well, then we increase the playerbase only 5 times. And get rid of all this rigid hypocrite uncool folks we don't want to see here anyway. Win/win.

Not really: in RL I am working for big companies, and some of my customers know my work in Entropia. I surely don't want to be linked to something negative. For you and Neverdie "any PR is good PR" might work. But a lot people here see it different, and luckily MA sees it different too.
 
Why should Entropia continue to be below the radar? Why on earth are MA wasting time and money on advertising, development and Compets if the plan is to keep us as dirty seedy underworld?

I guess I just have hope for the universe, and hate to see it being catapulted backwards in this way.

It was the RT community who has asked for vixen pets ever since taming has come back in the game. I do not know if it was always in pipeline to bring them in or not. As a business ND listened to his customers and gave them what they want. There was not talk about them being "sex slaves" people just liked this mob and wanted for them self's. I have been on RT since the start and it has always been asked when will BP drop so players can dress like the vixens and humanoids on RT. Just because you are not happy with them it don't mean a lot of others are not happy.
 
... and luckily MA sees it different too.
U seem to think ND made tamable vixens behind MA's back?
This whole argument of yours that you keep hammering on our heads over and over again is based on that assumption, and it's wrong. MA has known about this long before it was implemented, long before any of us (players) knew about it.
So there, step down from this soapbox and let MA speak for themselves... :yup:
 
U seem to think ND made tamable vixens behind MA's back?
This whole argument of yours that you keep hammering on our heads over and over again is based on that assumption, and it's wrong. MA has known about this long before it was implemented, long before any of us (players) knew about it.
So there, step down from this soapbox and let MA speak for themselves... :yup:

You always pick a part of a posting and ignore the full context. No-one said, MA did not know this is developed. But it's likely that RT knew, it is not allowed to spawn this on other planets, but ND ignored this.

Stuff like this happened so many times since RT release, this is not the first time, so stop blaming others for NDs faults.
 
K in your opinion would it be OK if there was a game where you could molest robot or vampire kids that look like humans? If the answer is no, why should it be any different for women?
This all could be fixed very easily with change of appearance so no one right minded could compare these mobs with women, until that it is indeed walking on very thin line.

There was this other 3D environment (don't mentioning names to not get deleted). Ppl could create content, own avatars and own game logic. For way too long there were no rules, everything was allowed. All big companies (Ford, NBC, Fox News, name it) were there and had their own island.

And guess what: no rules, so of course ppl programmed pedo stuff. Players could act as kids and babies and get paid to be abused by other avatars. Yes, it was all pixels. Was it OK? No.

Result: all big companies left this "game", because they created rules way too late.

Do you want this to happen to Entropia? I don't.

If you like to have a woman as pet/slave (yes, it's a robotblabla), just fly to Rocktropia. You can do that there and also find a lot friends there. What is your problem?

You two are off the deep end. This is just made-up extremism and you have no logic.

In an effort to make this easier for you to understand...lets makes a flow chart of things that use sex to sell.

Vixen-->Las Vegas-->Sport cheerleaders-->Every movie ever-->Game of Thrones-->SL-->Actual porn
Lowest----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Highest



Vixen isn't even close on the spectrum of the made up BS you are using to sensationalize your poor point.
 
It was the RT community who has asked for vixen pets ever since taming has come back in the game. I do not know if it was always in pipeline to bring them in or not. As a business ND listened to his customers and gave them what they want. There was not talk about them being "sex slaves" people just liked this mob and wanted for them self's. I have been on RT since the start and it has always been asked when will BP drop so players can dress like the vixens and humanoids on RT. Just because you are not happy with them it don't mean a lot of others are not happy.

So the RT community asked for them so let the RT community keep them ....on their planet.
 
So the RT community asked for them so let the RT community keep them ....on their planet.

He is saying this to show it was a player requested thing, not purely invented by ND.

Players on ALL planets want them.

Much more player do than the ones that don't.

SO because you and a few others are intimidated by them or read things into them that are not there, why cant we have them everywhere? SIlly!!! :eyecrazy:
 
Players on ALL planets want them.

This is a good example of a good business decision by MA: they know what player really want in this game and don't listen to a few ppl who shout out loud. Obviously players don't want them _that_ much, otherwise they would flood RT now.

Still it's hard for the few, that spent a lot of PEDs to tame them.

Oh, time for:
If you like to have a woman as pet/slave (yes, it's a robotblabla), just fly to Rocktropia. You can do that there and also find a lot friends there. What is your problem?
 
He is saying this to show it was a player requested thing, not purely invented by ND.

Players on ALL planets want them.

Much more player do than the ones that don't.

SO because you and a few others are intimidated by them or read things into them that are not there, why cant we have them everywhere? SIlly!!! :eyecrazy:

I KNOW THE ANSWER ! I KNOW WHY THEY DON'T WANT THEM !

Imagine this: A MALE WITH FEMALE AVATAR HAVING A FEMALE PET !!!!!!!!!!!!! How screwed can it be ?!?!?!?!?
That's why they don't want them....
 
This is a good example of a good business decision by MA: they know what player really want in this game and don't listen to a few ppl who shout out loud.
This is a claim you cannot prove. E.g. in the case of the shrinking of ancient strong pets, evidence even speaks against it. The vixen pet, like many controversial things in the world, has many fans who won't speak up publicly or even care to vote. Loud is always ever the opposition first. Public image about nearly everything is skewed this way. Cunning polititians are aware and know how to use this to manipulate.

I've been watching this for a little while. I know you honestly believe to do the right thing, but you keep generalizing, passing judgements and stating opinions as if they were facts just to make it sound more authoritative. It does not convince anybody who disagrees, it rather antagonizes. You don't realize this, therefore I hope this is seen as a constructive comment. We may agree to disagree, but this discussion style is beginning to piss me off seriously, because it sounds like a sermon more than a discussion. You may not care about my 2 cents, which is also fine, but don't be surprised by getting a reaction.

(Es scheint, wir sind Landsleute...)
 
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This is a claim you cannot prove. E.g. in the case of the shrinking of ancient strong pets, evidence even speaks against it. The vixen pet, like many controversial things in the world, has many fans who won't speak up publicly or even care to vote.

I am harmed very hard from the Ancient Strong pets change (lvl 40+ tamer, so I have quite some in storage), I lose a lot more PEDs only on this than the Vixen tamers. But I chose to try to sell them expensive instead of cheap and quick. So this is my risk, because I know, MA changes things all the time.


But in total, the ppl who are "harmed" by the change of ancient pets or Vixens is a very low total number. Compared with the PEDs that are cycled by the majority of the players in EU (mid to high level hunting, mining etc), it's obivous, that MA focuses on the majority of players or the high rolers.

It is impossible to please all players in EU and I can give you a ton of examples in my EU "career" where I got harmed by MA decisions (if really interested, let's PM).


In total the whole topic is still about the rant of people who do not respect the wish of planet partners. Plus many of them call others nazis, taliban-lovers etc. So yes, the tone of this discussion is a little out of hands.

But I still have to say: from MY point of view, MA did a lot good decisions in the past 24 months, and I also think, limiting Vixens to RT is one of the good ones.




P.S.: Landsleute: yip.
 
easy to make this fair make all pet only spawn on there own planet were they cam from that way they can fuck all the rest of the players

i hope the dont make any sheep pet that will be the last

they even have the vixen on poster when they show the first pet drawing

they should realy think what there doing before putting new stuff out
 
Well we shouldn't stop at this.

A game that promotes wipping and hurting poor animals for their own enjoyment and claiming them for their own?

How many exotic animals gets pushed down into small compartments and smuggled around the world for the enjoyment of owning that pet.

How many people are fundraising to remove this around the world and here we have a cruel game promoting this?

SO remove wips from the game pl0x.
 
In total the whole topic is still about the rant of people who do not respect the wish of planet partners. Plus many of them call others nazis, taliban-lovers etc. So yes, the tone of this discussion is a little out of hands.

.

I dont see it like customers/players made some restrictions and some game changes to Planet Partners and platform holder but oposite.
Shud PP and MA respect wishes of their customers too?
 
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Shud PP and MA respect wishes of their customers too?

They should, but it is impossible to do so.

First of all, Planet Partners have different interest than MA.
Then you have so many factions in EU that have oposite goals:
- Space: players want to travel space safe at low cost, pilots need a reason for players booking space ships, customers, pirates need PVP
- Pets: players want many pets with low cost, tamers want to tame pets at no loss, MA wants to generate income from pets
- Traders: some players love trading, some players hate resellers, other players need them to safe time getting what they need
- you can make this list as long as you like

It's impossible to please all. As MA is not a charity organisation, they have to make decisions that always harm some players.
 
I am harmed very hard from the Ancient Strong pets change (lvl 40+ tamer, so I have quite some in storage), I lose a lot more PEDs only on this than the Vixen tamers.
I believe it, if that's your trade. I had some on my wishlist, but now they are useless and you lose business. I would have used them for the exact purpose why pk'ers hate them, namely as a shield when venturing into pvp zones because otherwise I would have no means of mitigation whatsoever which I find deeply unfair. But the pk'ers demand "respect" in the form that you expose yourself willingly. A discussion about it happened here just recently, so it looks as if MA indeed listened to a few but very loud voices, and the wrong ones i.m.o. I dislike seeing that repeated.

It's impossible to please all.
So true. Yet it's tragic when skewed perception leads to decisions which pacify a few loud ones at the expense of the many silent ones. We all know what becomes of a child if parents give it candy any time it screams.

Regarding scantily clad submissive vixens, one last time then I'll shut up. Doesn't anyone who is old enough to remember notice how the world has changed in the past few decades? Many more people are offended a lot easier nowadays by all kinds of things they deem immoral, which nobody cared about earlier. Tolerance and sense of humour are going down the drain, and it's getting worse all the time. Children don't even get the Tom & Jerry cartoons anymore which we enjoyed as kids, because they are now deemed too violent and repetitions are only shown at 11pm for us old ones to remember. Did we turn out brutal savages over this? Now we can't even stand to see any fantasy anymore which would not check out if put into practice, but does no harm whatsoever to those who like a laugh at these things, nor to those who don't and would have simply ignored it a little while ago.

Okay, enough with the text. I have thousands more turkeys to fist :p
 
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