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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoerble View Post
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    PayPal charges nothing in most cases for most countries. But it has two problems:
    1) it uses your data for more than just the transactions (like most websites do)
    2) it locks down company accounts pretty quickly and has no transparent process how to get the money out.

    I don't know exactly what automatic BTC services do with their clients data, but when I use BTC I don't need to care, as there is no data string tied to my personal data, email, social ID or what else I buy.
    The only time PayPal "locks down" accounts is when you are a vendor and your customer claim that you did not provide the goods or services that you were being paid for. I highly doubt that MA will request that PayPal lock your account.

    If you want to be truly paranoid, create a PayPal account for the specific purpose of receiving money from MA. That way, no lock downs and no personal data to share.

    I think that most people truly misunderstand the anonymity (or lack thereof) with BTC.
    Can you actually remain anonymous using BTC? Yes. Is it a lot of work? Yes.
    In practice, using BTC can be much more invasive of your privacy than any other payment source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumsponge View Post
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    The only time PayPal "locks down" accounts is when you are a vendor and your customer claim that you did not provide the goods or services that you were being paid for. I highly doubt that MA will request that PayPal lock your account.
    I think, you totally misinterpret my posting. It's not the question, if MY account gets locked. I am refering to Paypal's business behaviour in general, not towards me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rumsponge View Post
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    I think that most people truly misunderstand the anonymity (or lack thereof) with BTC. Can you actually remain anonymous using BTC? Yes. Is it a lot of work? Yes.
    In practice, using BTC can be much more invasive of your privacy than any other payment source.
    This is a complete false statement. But together with your statement above ("paranoid"), it shows how you argue.

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    Usualy cheapest way to deposit in EU is direct bank transfer.
    Appart that cons are many, you dont need to have pay pal, you dont have headache finding someone to accept bitcoins to get rid of them, you dont have problems with avoiding taxes, money laundry ect.
    Rumors say that this chip was used by MOFUlogist Dan Dan Petrov during his specialisation in WTFlogy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoerble View Post
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    I think, you totally misinterpret my posting. It's not the question, if MY account gets locked. I am refering to Paypal's business behaviour in general, not towards me.
    Well, maybe I did misunderstand you. Are you actually saying that, on principal, you refuse to use PayPal to transfer money out of EU because you have heard stories and rumors of people somehow getting their PayPal accounts "locked"? In your world, has PayPal also been clubbing baby seals or shooting lions in Africa?


    Quote Originally Posted by Smoerble View Post
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    This is a complete false statement. But together with your statement above ("paranoid"), it shows how you argue.
    A) You really need to get someone to explain to you how the entire Blockchain concept works.
    B) And unless you were referring to your own post, I think you might want to actually do a little more research into the meaning and standard usages of the word ("paranoid").
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