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I need to rant about my doctor

Serica said:
It's become normal now for doctors to suggest possible lifestyle changes rather than just handing out pills.
In many cases, it gives a far better resolution of the medical issues.

However, there may be individual circumstances that require a different approach.
With evidence-based medicine, the best way to approach this is to present your own evidence clearly, not just as anecdotes.
It also helps to be reasonably across some recent medical research about your particular condition.

When you say it's a family trait, I assume you're not just referring to your Dad.

Make a list of all family members with a history of hypertension, and/or hypertension-related medical issues.
If possible put these together into a family tree.
Color-code it, if you feel that makes it easier to see the familial pattern, but above all make it simple.
You'll have about 1 minute to explain it.

Take that with you when you next see your doctor.

And ask your doctor if they're familiar with recent findings on genetic risk groups as predictors for strokes, hypertension and cardiovascular disease.
Ask if you can be gene-tested for this.
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Do a punnett square.
 
you could go all out vegetarian but as a cheese lover I think I'd rather take the pills aswell:laugh:

jokes aside even though you're not overweight switching out potatoes, rice, paste etc for vegetables and eating little red meats has been proven to fix quite a few things. Plus they say salmon is a miracle fish which is awesome cuz I could eat dat shit all day long.

There's an interesting documentary called knifes over forks showing some pretty unbelievable results through strict diet(it's probably not completely unbiased but if you enjoy vegetables as much as anything it's worth a try)you could see.

But good to see your new doctor might take you seriously! It's quite common in Sweden for doctors to not take you seriously... or any people for that matter...
Few days ago there was an old man who collapsed in the middle of a square begging for help and people left him there for 4 hours... the man was even wearing scrubs but because he had trouble moving and talking people probably assumed he was drunk but in fact he'd had a stroke
 
johan roadkill said:
you could go all out vegetarian but as a cheese lover I think I'd rather take the pills aswell:laugh:

jokes aside even though you're not overweight switching out potatoes, rice, paste etc for vegetables and eating little red meats has been proven to fix quite a few things. Plus they say salmon is a miracle fish which is awesome cuz I could eat dat shit all day long.

There's an interesting documentary called knifes over forks showing some pretty unbelievable results through strict diet(it's probably not completely unbiased but if you enjoy vegetables as much as anything it's worth a try)you could see.

But good to see your new doctor might take you seriously! It's quite common in Sweden for doctors to not take you seriously... or any people for that matter...
Few days ago there was an old man who collapsed in the middle of a square begging for help and people left him there for 4 hours... the man was even wearing scrubs but because he had trouble moving and talking people probably assumed he was drunk but in fact he'd had a stroke
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I could go for a strict diet, but to be honest, life is already short and food is one of those things I adore. I would much rather take pills than only eat certain things at certain times. Hell i would give up alocohol before i went on a strict diet.

And those diets are all the same, the second you stop them you lose the benefits. That is why I exercise, so I can eat whatever I want.



Rgds

Ace
 
A few changes in diet might just make a big difference with your health issues.
I love country ham, but since it is full of salt I only eat it once or twice a month. I use sea salt, it doesn't seem to raise my blood pressure.
I love good food too! I use butter & eat eggs, but I don't eat a lot of fried foods or fatty meats.
I cook with olive oil when I fry something at home & I don't eat a lot of packaged or fast foods.
Beer & wine, make the weekend a little better!

A trip to a health food store, might give you some solutions for a natural healthy way to lower
both blood pressure & cholesterol. Vitamin E can thin your blood, might be better than aspirin?

You should be a partner in your healthcare, as well as having a Dr. that you like & trust.
 
Cortisol (the stress hormone) will raise your blood pressure, try to avoid doing things that increase this.

One thing that I know increases this for sure is sitting down for long periods of time, try and get a standing desk either at work or for whilst your playing EU

I know you have probably heard it all before, but there's always a chance you haven't heard this and that it could work.

Wish you all the best, let us know how you get on.
 
ladyliegh said:
A few changes in diet might just make a big difference with your health issues.
I love country ham, but since it is full of salt I only eat it once or twice a month. I use sea salt, it doesn't seem to raise my blood pressure.
I love good food too! I use butter & eat eggs, but I don't eat a lot of fried foods or fatty meats.
I cook with olive oil when I fry something at home & I don't eat a lot of packaged or fast foods.
Beer & wine, make the weekend a little better!

A trip to a health food store, might give you some solutions for a natural healthy way to lower
both blood pressure & cholesterol. Vitamin E can thin your blood, might be better than aspirin?

You should be a partner in your healthcare, as well as having a Dr. that you like & trust.
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I could cope with a few changes. I do try to keep takeout to a minimum, mainly cause of salt. But I will try to do small changes in other areas. Big changes, knowing me, won't hold ;)

One good thing, I don't snack. If i do, its a sandwich.


warmdogg said:
Cortisol (the stress hormone) will raise your blood pressure, try to avoid doing things that increase this.

One thing that I know increases this for sure is sitting down for long periods of time, try and get a standing desk either at work or for whilst your playing EU

I know you have probably heard it all before, but there's always a chance you haven't heard this and that it could work.

Wish you all the best, let us know how you get on.
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It's bizarre you mention standing at work....i recently, in the last week, with the help of one of the engineers constructed a tripod thingy, to put my laptop on. So, I now stand at work, well at least until midday when I have had enough of hurting feet.

My plan is too extend it to standing all day, but currently 7.30 till 12pm is enough for me.

*not cause of stress, but because of shin-splints*


Rgds

Ace
 
self prescribing

Alainax said:
What's your thoughts on self prescribing? I know many healthy fit above a certain age (doctors included) people take low dose aspirin to reduce the risk of heart attacks. An option might be to tell your doctor that your planning on taking this as a preventative measure, and if she thinks that's a problem? It is often given to higher risk people, amd is even safe enough to be used in pregnancy so not a nasty drug :) you should be able to buy it yourself at a pharmacy.
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Anti-platelets-aspirin-low-dose-/Pages/Introduction.aspx
You could of course ask for anxiety meds, that the whole situation is stressing you out and your mental health is being affected , then see if she will give you the other ones ;)
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About a year ago I tried to solve my painfull situation with my teeth by "self prescribing".
So a weekend I took more than two pain killer pills among them a couple of aspirines.
The result?
From next Monday to Thursday I was in and out of hospital with profuse bleeding (I hope this is the right term for bleeding to death!!!).
By Thursday evening thus bleeding stop due low pressure about 3-4 low and 5-6 top!!!! I was very close to say bye-bye to this world.
Doctor in hospital said that one aspirin need ten (10) days to completely removed from our blood.

So self prescribing it is very bad idea and not recommended. Especially with blood pressure
regulators kind of pills.
 
I'll keep it short.

Change your doctor.

Dont take advice from [2.14]

Remind me to sell things to you on Friday night. ;-)
 
Mega said:
I'll keep it short.

Change your doctor.

Dont take advice from [2.14]

Remind me to sell things to you on Friday night. ;-)
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*must clear ped card into storage on a thursday night :cool:*
 
Ace Flyster said:
*must clear ped card into storage on a thursday night :cool:*
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Enjoy the above advice, I think I wont be doing any more until after bonfire night when [2.14] wakes up.

It's valid, but I am under such heavy moderation, I dont feel like going into my background or why I feel that, especially as my post will just get deleted in 2 hours anyway.
 
Mega said:
Enjoy the above advice, I think I wont be doing any more until after bonfire night when [2.14] wakes up.

It's valid, but I am under such heavy moderation, I dont feel like going into my background or why I feel that, especially as my post will just get deleted in 2 hours anyway.
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She is heavily modding you? I thought you guys were on good terms...i would pm you but......


Rgds

Ace
 
although...

....most of these responses are reasonable. They are all irrelevant. Your family history although important is not relevant to the presence of disease in yourself. You have hypertension. You have high cholesterol. You are thin and a 'keen runner'. There are some lifestyle changes that you can make to help apparently. Choose to make those or don't but I do not see anything glaring in your lifestyle. With a genetic predisposition to hypertension or with longstanding hypertension you must be careful with ACE inhibitors. If there is the presence of renal artery stenosis this can be exascerbated with renal failure as a result. Young persons with familial hypertension sometimes do well on an alpha blocker, beta blocker(which also functions as an anxiolytic and is a common heart protective medication in high risk patients now), or possibly an ACE inhibitor. You should clearly be on an aspirin a day with your history or possibly another antiplatelet medication like Plavix, etc. Don't take no for an answer. Switch doctors. Medication for cholesterol is a little trickier. Diet and exercise are good reducers of bad cholesterol and raisers of good cholesterol. Cheers!

Brick
 
A collague of mine is heavy overwight and she has athrosis in her knee, although its irreperable damage every doc she consulted refuse to help her with an artificial knee. The reason is, she is too young for this... .

This is german healthcare for you. A friend back from my school days is working for one of the bigger health insurance companies and she told me this is intentional, else to cost for healthcare insurance would explode. It seem 5% chance on a heart attack are too low for treatment and they will just wait until your overpressure have done enough damage to your body to justify the treatment. This is one of the big downsides of our healthcare system.
 
Wow a doctor that doesn't pass out drugs like candy! Someone give her a medal!

PS there is all natural ways to treat that. Type in Homeopathic Treatment in your area or check phone book :)
 
Hartwin said:
Type in Homeopathic Treatment in your area or check phone book :)
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There have been a lot, I mean really a lot, more than you could ever possibly imagine, of extremely stupid posts on this forum over the years, but I cannot stress enough how utterly idiotic yours is.

Don't ever do this.

Fortunately I know Ace well enough to know that he would never take your moronic advice.

Homeopathy is not medicine. It is complete fantasy that has absolutely no scientific foundation and has no evidence of success. Anyone following that path is condemning themselves to disaster.

Just don't.

While I'm here, the sad fact is that the NHS is chronically underfunded, particularly in primary care, and GPs are effectively forced to process patients as quickly (and cheaply) as possible. Pushing them to refer you to a specialist is potentially the worst thing you can do (in their terms, if you're wasting their time) or the best thing (for you, if it results in a diagnosis of a problem that wouldn't have otherwise been diagnosed). Really though if it's an ongoing thing you should get a referral even it just ends up saying that it's something you shouldn't have to worry about. A specialist saying that can save you 10 trips to the GP.

It could be that your difficulty is that your complaint isn't very specific, and so they're not sure what specialist to refer you to. A discussion about that might help.
 
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Oleg said:
There have been a lot, I mean really a lot, more than you could ever possibly imagine, of extremely stupid posts on this forum over the years, but I cannot stress enough how utterly idiotic yours is.

Don't ever do this.

Fortunately I know Ace well enough to know that he would never take your moronic advice.

Homeopathy is not medicine. It is complete fantasy that has absolutely no scientific foundation and has no evidence of success. Anyone following that path is condemning themselves to disaster.

Just don't.

While I'm here, the sad fact is that the NHS is chronically underfunded, particularly in primary care, and GPs are effectively forced to process patients as quickly (and cheaply) as possible. Pushing them to refer you to a specialist is potentially the worst thing you can do (in their terms, if you're wasting their time) or the best thing (for you, if it results in a diagnosis of a problem that wouldn't have otherwise been diagnosed). Really though if it's an ongoing thing you should get a referral even it just ends up saying that it's something you shouldn't have to worry about. A specialist saying that can save you 10 trips to the GP.

It could be that your difficulty is that your complaint isn't very specific, and so they're not sure what specialist to refer you to. A discussion about that might help.
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Upon reading your post it occured to me

If you knew anyone who was

a) A Homeopath
b) Worked for the NHS
c) Likely to disagree

hopefully not

d) Called stupid


Just when the forum was getting boring again.
 
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