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goldbaron357

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I've been a paying customer in Entropia for 8+ years.

I am down 10 to 15K peds in the last two weeks and my biggest loot? A whopping 267 ped global, and 10% to 50% returns no matter what I do on anything. Eco or not, amped or not, big mobs small mobs. Most weeks I do not get even a single global on anything no matter how much the cost to kill or the cost to click or the cost to drop is.

I hunt as big of mobs as I can, for weeks at a time on end minus a few hours for sleep. Done so for years. Yet my biggest hunting loot is capped at below 400 peds. I am naturally skilled at around level 40 in blp and laser. I do not get to loot ESI's or any good items.

I have dropped insane amounts of bombs, amped and unamped, with amps ranging from level 2 to level 13 and before the new system, OA 102's to OA109's. I have done maybe 2/3rds of my drops unamped. Yet, in 8 and a half years of massive mining spends and cycling and recycling of loots, I still can't tower, and I MIGHT get a single mining hof per year. If I am very lucky, two hofs. And they are almost always JUST over the threshold that would have made them a global if they were any smaller. I have been nearly to level 50 in prospecting and surveying, naturally skilled, and chipped out some skill to test theories and I am almost back up to level 40. Keep in mind, I can drop hundreds of peds before I even get a skill gain, so I can't help but feel something is wrong. But, I have seen with my own two eyes one day old noobs hit towers,,, yet an 8 and a half year old avatar can't tower? Even with the hundreds of thousands of peds lost averaging 50 to 75% returns with markup 90% of the time? I am capped at 3,464 peds in mining. It is ludicrous. And I can bomb amped with level 8's or unamped, for weeks on end and not hof at all, on foma, in hell, OR planet side.

Crafting... I've crafted quantity, I have even crafted a lot on condition too and everywhere in between. For what I've clicked, the 1,320 ped loot cap I have in crafting is asinine. There are a ton of prints that Ive done a ton of clicks on even on quantity and don't have a single success to show for on them.

I am tired of all the risk without any chance of reward. Why should I keep playing when there is no chance for anything to happen? You may look at my entropia life and will probably think "What's he bitching about, he's a noob." The hell I am. Several of you out there know exactly how much I am down in Entropia and are as bothered by it as I am, and those of you that don't know, well, my globals and hofs are inversely proportional to what I've actually deposited, or earned and lost inside Entropia, and lost and lost and lost. The more I spend, the more I deposit, the less loot I get. And this is why I am complaining.

Only reason I don't quit yet is I will feel like I have thrown away 8 and a half years of effort. I don't like failing at anything, but I just can't justify going after it as hard as I have done for these past 8 years.

REAL noobs who can't even begin to know how good we had it in VU 9 and earlier because they are so new, can't appreciate how bad loot actually is right now. How hopeless the situation is. I remember the days when you could hit unamped IX's and XII's on calypso routinely, like clockwork. Now you are lucky to hit anything over a V unamped. I remember when you seen huge mobs actually looting worth a damn. Now I look and see 3 digit hofs on the loot ticker for Daspletors and it's like, wow, why am I even trying if they are hunting some of the biggest game in the game and even they can't hof big. I don't know what is going on, but I know something is not right that the older players are by and large getting screwed over.

I do not know how much more I can take before I do quit. But there is such a slim chance of any reward now that there is no fun even in the pursuit of that chance because I know there is no chance. When you cycle and recycle five digits of peds into oblivion without hof or global, on any manner of things, why, why even bother any more?

I will give it some more time, but MA, please understand you are very close to driving away your most hardcore and loyal supporters who have kept your bills paid all these years. Think long and hard before you slay your golden goose forever. Are you going to do right by your long time players? Or are you actually trying to get rid of us?
 
root kong!!!!
 
goldbaron357 said:
I've been a paying customer in Entropia for 8+ years.

I am down 10 to 15K peds in the last two weeks and my biggest loot? A whopping 267 ped global, and 10% to 50% returns no matter what I do on anything. Eco or not, amped or not, big mobs small mobs. Most weeks I do not get even a single global on anything no matter how much the cost to kill or the cost to click or the cost to drop is.

I hunt as big of mobs as I can, for weeks at a time on end minus a few hours for sleep. Done so for years. Yet my biggest hunting loot is capped at below 400 peds. I am naturally skilled at around level 40 in blp and laser. I do not get to loot ESI's or any good items.

I have dropped insane amounts of bombs, amped and unamped, with amps ranging from level 2 to level 13 and before the new system, OA 102's to OA109's. I have done maybe 2/3rds of my drops unamped. Yet, in 8 and a half years of massive mining spends and cycling and recycling of loots, I still can't tower, and I MIGHT get a single mining hof per year. If I am very lucky, two hofs. And they are almost always JUST over the threshold that would have made them a global if they were any smaller. I have been nearly to level 50 in prospecting and surveying, naturally skilled, and chipped out some skill to test theories and I am almost back up to level 40. Keep in mind, I can drop hundreds of peds before I even get a skill gain, so I can't help but feel something is wrong. But, I have seen with my own two eyes one day old noobs hit towers,,, yet an 8 and a half year old avatar can't tower? Even with the hundreds of thousands of peds lost averaging 50 to 75% returns with markup 90% of the time? I am capped at 3,464 peds in mining. It is ludicrous. And I can bomb amped with level 8's or unamped, for weeks on end and not hof at all, on foma, in hell, OR planet side.

Crafting... I've crafted quantity, I have even crafted a lot on condition too and everywhere in between. For what I've clicked, the 1,320 ped loot cap I have in crafting is asinine. There are a ton of prints that Ive done a ton of clicks on even on quantity and don't have a single success to show for on them.

I am tired of all the risk without any chance of reward. Why should I keep playing when there is no chance for anything to happen? You may look at my entropia life and will probably think "What's he bitching about, he's a noob." The hell I am. Several of you out there know exactly how much I am down in Entropia and are as bothered by it as I am, and those of you that don't know, well, my globals and hofs are inversely proportional to what I've actually deposited, or earned and lost inside Entropia, and lost and lost and lost. The more I spend, the more I deposit, the less loot I get. And this is why I am complaining.

Only reason I don't quit yet is I will feel like I have thrown away 8 and a half years of effort. I don't like failing at anything, but I just can't justify going after it as hard as I have done for these past 8 years.

REAL noobs who can't even begin to know how good we had it in VU 9 and earlier because they are so new, can't appreciate how bad loot actually is right now. How hopeless the situation is. I remember the days when you could hit unamped IX's and XII's on calypso routinely, like clockwork. Now you are lucky to hit anything over a V unamped. I remember when you seen huge mobs actually looting worth a damn. Now I look and see 3 digit hofs on the loot ticker for Daspletors and it's like, wow, why am I even trying if they are hunting some of the biggest game in the game and even they can't hof big. I don't know what is going on, but I know something is not right that the older players are by and large getting screwed over.

I do not know how much more I can take before I do quit. But there is such a slim chance of any reward now that there is no fun even in the pursuit of that chance because I know there is no chance. When you cycle and recycle five digits of peds into oblivion without hof or global, on any manner of things, why, why even bother any more?

I will give it some more time, but MA, please understand you are very close to driving away your most hardcore and loyal supporters who have kept your bills paid all these years. Think long and hard before you slay your golden goose forever. Are you going to do right by your long time players? Or are you actually trying to get rid of us?
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SOrry after reading this: 10% to 50% returns.. i cant take any other of the text seriously..
Try logging your actions and you ll see that tt returns are average 90%.
Your highest loots are very normal for that kind of low amount of playing (compare yourself to any other player on EntropiaLife)
Mining loot total 30k, highest loot 3k. Mine is 45k and 4,5k. Same with hunting and crafting..
If you want to get those uber loots you have to be prepared to pay for them. Some ppl choose they eco way (lots of small globies, but never anything big) some ppl choose all or nothing way (they spend like crazy hoping for that magic to happen).
NB! about no big loots on noob mobs we can blame the community who complained about noobs getting too high HOFs. So MA removed those super high HOFs and made the average loot better. Thats it.
 
When people say they're regularly getting returns as low as 10% it usually means they lack a basic understanding of maths. They'll get 1000ped ammo then later on trade in 700ped loot of for more ammo then again later they trade in 500ped loot for more ammo etc. then at the end of the day say they got a 10% return.
 
We all miss the days when mining unamped was basically guaranteed profit even at 70% returns you'd break even on MU. But these days are loooooong gone, have to adapt now and play more conservatively, even be an opportunist at times.

But your TT returns are quite disturbing. What slither said is probably correct. You're probably getting roughly consistent 70-80% returns and just recycling them and calculating your return when all is said and done. This would make anyone pissed off/depressed, myself included :mad:

Wish there was something more constructive we could offer you but if you're just looking to vent, you will only see more comments like slither's unless you provide some sort of organized data for us to analyze.

However I'd like to add that towers are a matter of dumb luck. Many have been playing and cycling for 6-8 years and seen MAYBE 1 tower, 2 if they were lucky. Unless you're running lv13s and terra10s on FOMA...
 
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goldbaron357 said:
I am down 10 to 15K peds in the last two weeks and my biggest loot? A whopping 267 ped global, and 10% to 50% returns no matter what I do on anything.
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I stopped reading after the second sentance. You telling us, you have cycled 15k peds and got between 10 and 50% return.

One word.....B*LL*O**S.....


You clearly haven't tracked your returns and just making up numbers.....that makes you a liar.

Rgds

Ace

EDIT...saying all that, i have thought of two occasions where this is possible....FOMA lv 13 amped mining..... and condition expl bp IV. Both of which would make you an idiot if you are complaining about gambling your money away.
 
goldbaron357 said:
I am down 10 to 15K peds in the last two weeks
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If you're not even sure if you lost 10k or 15k, it's a tremendously obvious indicator that you're not putting much effort in tracking your returns.
 
Ace Flyster said:
You clearly haven't tracked your returns and just making up numbers.....that makes you a liar.
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That's a bit harsh and overly aggressive. Why not just ask how he has tracked his loots? Problem with this forum is everyone thinks they are entitled to just attack - all keyboard warriors !
 
Ace Flyster said:
EDIT...saying all that, i have thought of two occasions where this is possible....FOMA lv 13 amped mining..... and condition expl bp IV. Both of which would make you an idiot if you are complaining about gambling your money away.
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Even then 10-50% is not realistic. it is still 90% tt return (Foma take down 5% tax, so 85% left) but 10-50% is just bollocks.

If he speaks about 10-50% return with markups, then yes lvl13 amp markup would make it very likely to happen, also Looking at his tracker he has crafted some lvl2 amps, maybe he used adjusted bp for them, then alien biogenic makes it possible.

But still OP has clearly either strongly exaggerated or is using using high markup items that are meant for gamblers.
 
gwit said:
That's a bit harsh and overly aggressive. Why not just ask how he has tracked his loots? Problem with this forum is everyone thinks they are entitled to just attack - all keyboard warriors !
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Yep, definitely a bit harsh. But i get fed up with people making up random numbers to suit their mood.

When someone says "between 10 an 50%", it shows they have absolutely no idea.

If they had said, "I spent 12,324 ped and got back 1,345 ped, a 10.91% return." Then fair enough, something else is obviously wrong, I.E. a gambler. But no, they just made up numbers......

I have a friend who just makes things up when they don't know, it's quite hilarious at times. Most recently, talking about my blood pressure. They said they have low blood pressure, and proceeded to say they had 88/35....i explained they would be almost dead with a low of 35. Not only did they then try to defend what they just made up, they also went on to say they ALWAYs had a high of 88....always. I explained BP changes on a 24hour basis, even every 10 mins or so. But they then went on to try to defend their lie....I didnt mind, i thought it was funny.

This is the same.


Rgds

Ace
 
goldbaron357 said:
  • in Entropia for 8+ years.
  • I hunt as big of mobs as I can, for weeks at a time on end minus a few hours for sleep.
  • I am naturally skilled at around level 40 in blp and laser.
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Hmm. Hardcore hunting of big mobs for years (few h of sleep per day) and still @ lvl 40?
This achivement is truely unique. So far nobody has managed to do that.

:wtg:
 
Ace Flyster said:
Yep, definitely a bit harsh. But i get fed up with people making up random numbers to suit their mood.
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A big man who acknowledges his mistake. Thank you.
 
gwit said:
That's a bit harsh and overly aggressive. Why not just ask how he has tracked his loots?
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I agree with this, don't be so mean ! There are certainly certain parts of the game where this sort of return is possible, trust me I blooming live it.... Although if one adds a bit of variation like the op suggests he is doing then I would suspect it should even out a bit better.

Op, have you tracked your losses? Can be a good way to see if there is a pattern :) or maybe the guys and girls here can make some suggestions re your set up :)
 
gets old hearing everyone here always yelling:
"90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%" when a lot of times loot can be way lower than 90%.

Like most casinos irl, 90% average may be possible, but that's after everything is all averaged out after a massive amount of spending etc.. Real world casinos average out the entire amount of all slots on the floor over a quarter or something like that to get to that 90%. In EU, it's highly possible someone can end up much, much, much lower than 90% because they are an outlier, just like irl casinos many people come in with a few hundred and go home with nothing. (trust me, irl casinos, bitching can actually be just as bad if not worse than in eu - I work for a rl cussin hole.)
 
mastermesh said:
gets old hearing everyone here always yelling:
"90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%" when a lot of times loot can be way lower than 90%.

Like most casinos irl, 90% average may be possible, but that's after everything is all averaged out after a massive amount of spending etc.. Real world casinos average out the entire amount of all slots on the floor over a quarter or something like that to get to that 90%. In EU, it's highly possible someone can end up much, much, much lower than 90% because they are an outlier, just like irl casinos many people come in with a few hundred and go home with nothing. (trust me, irl casinos, bitching can actually be just as bad if not worse than in eu - I work for a rl cussin hole.)
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While this is true and I completely agree, OP seems to be claiming he's been a consistent outlier for 8 years. Which is not statistically plausible by any standard. You're getting into voodoo at that point, maybe his avatar is "cursed". Yeah ok :laugh:
 
mastermesh said:
gets old hearing everyone here always yelling:
"90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%" when a lot of times loot can be way lower than 90%.

Like most casinos irl, 90% average may be possible, but that's after everything is all averaged out after a massive amount of spending etc.. Real world casinos average out the entire amount of all slots on the floor over a quarter or something like that to get to that 90%. In EU, it's highly possible someone can end up much, much, much lower than 90% because they are an outlier, just like irl casinos many people come in with a few hundred and go home with nothing. (trust me, irl casinos, bitching can actually be just as bad if not worse than in eu - I work for a rl cussin hole.)
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Of course u can do a run under 90% but not consistently run at under 50%. Those who make these BS claims are usually recycling peds and claiming it's the same run. Just like those guys who go in the casino with $500 then 10 hours later walk out with nothing, they haven't got a 0% return on $500 because they've probably placed $10,000 in bets and therefore got a 95% return. Just like when u count the cash at the end of a shift u can get 25% return on a game with a 2.5% house edge, it's all recycled bets (yep, I used to work in a casino too :))
 
goldbaron357 said:
8+ years
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down 10 to 15K peds in the last two weeks
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10% to 50% returns
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Most weeks I do not get even a single global on anything
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I hunt as big of mobs as I can, for weeks at a time on end minus a few hours for sleep. Done so for years.
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I am naturally skilled at around level 40 in blp and laser.
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I do not get to loot ESI's or any good items.
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EL said:
Favorite Mob: Molisk
Highest Loot: 371 PED
Total Loot: 9 272 PED
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Will only talk about the hunting part, since I know what is involved quite well.
There are too many inconsistencies in your story, also in relation to your profile on EL.
You seem to have only hunted from time to time since 2014, but most of your activities seem to be mining and crafting, also based on the hunting profstanding. Unless you are using opalo or something, or hunting in a team all the time (assuming this is not the case).
  • It is impossible to lose 10-15k in a week (like others mentioned, what kind of tracking is that?) on hunting with your hunting turnover.
  • It is impossible to get 10-50% hunting returns per run in hunting (the normal run based calculation, not what Slither proposed).
  • It is also impossible to not get a single global for weeks (again assuming reasonable turnover).
  • It seems very unlikely to never have looted an ESI.
To conclude, I would propose to stick to one profession, start tracking your returns properly (at least you could complain based on real data) and stop doing what is considered gambling since you clearly can't afford it. Good luck out there.
 
As for "return" - my bank in relation to EU do not recognize 90% or 50% or 10% return but is 0% even if I know that I had fun for so many years.

Maybe we should measure other things instead of so called "return".
For example how long last an deposit by doing certain activity.
An deposit will not last long by buying expensive armor, weapon, skills, deeds and yes amps too.
An deposit will last a bit longer ofc by hunting/mining/crafting and still it depend on how you do it and on what lvl you do it. Once amount of deposited peds are gone we can calculate price you have paid for entertainment in time period.
 
I think goldbaron was just venting , i doubt the numbers are accurate but you know sometimes its important to let all the steam out of your system.

Even in a venting post you can catch up some nice lines like this one

How hopeless the situation is. I remember the days when you could hit unamped IX's and XII's on calypso routinely, like clockwork. Now you are lucky to hit anything over a V unamped. I remember when you seen huge mobs actually looting worth a damn. Now I look and see 3 digit hofs on the loot ticker for Daspletors and it's like, wow, why am I even trying if they are hunting some of the biggest game in the game and even they can't hof big.
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if you just look at this without minding the rest of his post and with threads like "EU lost his mystery touch from old PE days" in mind this words hold some grain of truth. Of course this dosnt have anything to do with returns.
But yeah i miss über loots and the chance to loot something incredible valueable from any mob. Hunting molisks , yeah they might drop imp fap or angel, argos shadow helmet, ambulimax shadow parts ect ect. Today thats just fiction. But things like this fired up the imagination of many and added success to mindarks formula to keep their player content and dreaming. If you stop dreaming EU is quite boring.
 
Hate to do this but 10% to 50% does seem a little low unless you're not counting / using the ammo return which can be quite a lot of loot. Either it's by hunting way over the top - lvl 40 is low level now tbh thanks to the SIB stuff and this is someone who's barely into the 30's (I quit caring about skill level a long time ago and switched to low level with slow skill gain).

And thanks to people complaining about low level mob globals and hofs and with the help of the lowered global limit MA appear to removed the true 50ped+ globals from low level mobs almost entirely keeping them purely on the higher level stuff.

The only way I've managed to achieve such a level was to hunt high level mobs with a low budget, to low dps or very short runs. Even on single runs of an enblade-a I'm still at 89% return (although that includes a few stack sales) using all UL equipment (although most of that came from 2012 to mid 2014). Or as I said to use the ammo returned in loot leaving you with a few stacks.

UL makes it really easy to tt track returns as all you need to do is repair everything at the end of a hunt and compare it to the tt value of the loot - UL melee makes it even easier as you don't use the ammo you get which can be quite a lot. And according to my records the lowest return I've ever had in a single enblade-a run is 49% (highest was 575% thanks to an extremely rare global)

If you're not happy with the returns at the level you're playing then down grade and go low level even if the returns are crap you're still not depositing anywhere near as much if at all.
 
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Hey I for one am with you. Everyone always reacts with how you need to do better tracking or what I love the most is "you aren't cycling enough". What I hear is that you have played this game for a long time and are not happy with returns. There is nothing more you have to justify to me after that. I am almost always unhappy with returns in the last 2 years. I gave up mining - and IMO mining with amps is dead. I hear soc m8s go mine amped in foma/AU all the time and come back with jack and no hofs of course.
I find it unlikely that you have long runs with no globals and never got an esi, but I do find it possible. I go out and hunt 50 Atrox and get a global, when my friend had a streak of killing hundreds (I think over 500) without one. I haven't mined much in the last year, but still have not had a global in over 1 year.
Point is - players like yourself are not happy and MA just keeps up the status quo in terms of returns. I do not find it acceptable when connected to how much I spend. Now I have resolved to keep my monthly spending to a very low amount. There are a lot of other great quality games out lately and coming soon- and guess what? They cost 60 bucks and keep you entertained for months if no more.
 
whiteknut said:
..... about no big loots on noob mobs we can blame the community who complained about noobs getting too high HOFs. So MA removed those super high HOFs and made the average loot better. Thats it.
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Amen!
No more weekly 20k trox, no more 10k drones ect....the horde ask for it...all of us must have it now...
 
Someone forgot .... permanent didn't carry any loot

 
BestGamerEver said:
Amen!
No more weekly 20k trox, no more 10k drones ect....the horde ask for it...all of us must have it now...
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What pisses me off is that it wasn't a horde that asked for it, it was a dozens are so guys shouting on the forum while the thousands of players in the game were happy (or at least not complaining) with the situation.
 
I remember the old days very well, were fun times and i was fortunate enough to get a 10k on a Atrox Mature but these days they can't really put a 10k loot or bigger in Atrox and 0.50ped in a Proteron, allot of new creatures were added since then with bigger hp which need a piece of the pie too.
 
goldbaron357 said:
I remember when you seen huge mobs actually looting worth a damn.
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The key word is "seen". Yes, I remember hunting argos in 2006-09 north from Twins and seeing with my own eyes 10k+ drops nearby a couple of times a week. 20+ green dots on radar 24/7 - and two 10k+ drops a week. Of course I didn't get any of those personally, my only loot over 250 ped on Argos for those 4 years was one 900-pedder. It was also my best loot ever until I got my first 1k+ in 2013 after 7 years of playing.

Nowadays I feel the loot is more balanced out. No huge loots, but since I never had them and am not a gambler in heart to chase them, I couldn't care less. The usual loot is fine, plenty of "mini"-s and normal-sized globals come steadily. I miss a lot from the old days, but that kind of loot distribution "all or nothing" I don't miss.
 
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