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I wasn't going to complain... But it is LONG overdue...

Rocket192 said:
Look you're fine to do and believe whatever you want to, but the people giving you advice aren't the ones on forums complaining about bad TT returns.

Don't come here for advice and then criticize everything people say as advice to you.

Second.. Iron shit mobs are mobs that are over-grinded for iron missions and drop shit markup. Search for mobs that drop a high % of muscle oil, eye oil, and maybe guns that sell for 125-135%.

If you're hunting mobs that drop pancreas or liver oil you're not going to do well. If you have the bankroll to do 3-4K ped hunts on Cp and warp down then maybe go camp Kreltins for output amps and alien blood.. Both are great markup.
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Screw it..
Im not intressted in epeen fencing.

Come with some real answers on what this thread is about and what TS wanted to tell you and others his problem, and we are quite a few with this problem.

I'm askin you guys who has this problem, or anybody that has knowledge about it,
how can we continue and investigate this "problem"?..


Kisses and hugs to all, even little angry boys, you too need bromance hug.

ps. thanks for the hunting advice, but why the need to talk shit,
first you tell me its fine for me to say and think what i want,
in the next line you tell me to shut up.
Its not your thread and you do not have power over me telling me anything.
Tell it to my face.

There are calculations how much different mobs cost to kill that players have made.
If the mob cost 3 ped to kill and i still recieve 0-1 ped of loot most of the time,
those are parameters i cannot change.. You get me??

And its a part of getting hit more than others too..
There was probably 15-20 other sweaters there.
https://imgi.se/image/FGI
 
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Rocket192;3430111 Second.. Iron shit mobs are mobs that are over-grinded for iron missions and drop shit markup. Search for mobs that drop a high % of muscle oil said:
Please tell me some calypso mobs that are an alternative. Most of the iron mobs I think of do drop muscle (Kerbs) and eye oil. Looting guns is just luck also - I've tried camping mobs trying to loot guns and never had success (prots drop lc-60 and ambu lc-55 and I can't think last time I got one from them or maybe once ever)

Calling 105% mu on muscle oil good and not shit ... well that doesn't get me too excited. When muscle oil was 110 now that is worth going after. Doesn't mean I don't go after muscle oil, just saying I still consider 105 - shit markup.
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I've seen with my own eyes 1 player become one of the "chosen" 6k in a week..
It was a duo I used to play with, we played from lvl 3 laser irc, same gear and teamed most of the time.
She healed some ppl and all of a sudden, she gets hofs in everything she did.

At lvl 0 she crafted this
And at the same time she had many hofs hunting in group, cant remember which they were.
She became a choosen to the positive side, whilst another became chosen to the negative side.
Gender does alot, charms alot of ppl maybe including some MA that plays.

I really do hope there is no such thing that many of us suspect, if there is, thats foul play
and should be properly investigated, because its our IRL money we get ripped off
and given to chosen players.

E-Amp 11 65 PED Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:31:35
Level 3 Finder Amplifier Light (L) 209 PED Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:22:54
E-Amp 11 55 PED Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:06:25
E-Amp 11 823 PED Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:47:05
Level 2 Finder Amplifier (L) 417 PED Fri, 03 Jul 2015 13:19:54
E-Amp 11 171 PED Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:30:23
E-Amp 11 64 PED Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:22:24
E-Amp 11 357 PED Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:16:03
E-Amp 11 78 PED Fri, 03 Jul 2015 05:31:32
E-Amp 11 333 PED Fri, 03 Jul 2015 05:12:57
E-Amp 11 3 767 PED Thu, 02 Jul 2015 19:38:18
E-Amp 11 380 PED Thu, 02 Jul 2015 19:21:24
E-Amp 11 159 PED Thu, 02 Jul 2015 19:05:14
E-Amp 11 146 PED Thu, 02 Jul 2015 19:04:16
E-Amp 11 53 PED Thu, 02 Jul 2015 18:56:07
E-Amp 11 97 PED Sat, 16 May 2015 17:13:03
E-Amp 11 53 PED Thu, 14 May 2015 08:19:45
E-Amp 11 82 PED Fri, 01 May 2015 06:51:12
E-Amp 11 77 PED Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:51:10
E-Amp 11 1 301 PED Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:36:07
 
Just look at this, something happened in Feb 2015 for her.
From 20 pedders to this :

Feffox Young 415 PED Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:32:17
Feffox Young 75 PED Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:05:55
Feffox Young 211 PED Mon, 20 Apr 2015 16:57:05
Feffox Young 168 PED Mon, 20 Apr 2015 16:31:40


Feffox Mature 208 PED Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:50:00
Feffox Young 71 PED Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:57:54
Feffox Mature 625 PED Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:57:04
Kerberos Mature 22 PED Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:20:08

Feffoid Guard 111 PED Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:22:20
Feffoid Champion 75 PED Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:21:27
Argonaut Young 58 PED Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:38:36
Kerberos Provider 12 PED Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:20:02
Kerberos Mature 23 PED Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:46:47
Kerberos Provider 14 PED Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:50:57
Cornundacauda Provider 52 PED Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:58:13
Cornundacauda Mature 18 PED Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:56:47
Cornundacauda Old 20 PED Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:15:55
Merry Mayhem Araneatrox (S,1) 61 PED Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:37:26

And thats not even included the team hofs she got several times a week..
There were things that happen around that date that I know of, wont tell more about that.
Well I can give you this, she wanted to meet men IRL, she does not have the age.

No name dropping.

I really do hope it is "Dynamic", i really do hope there is no possibility for GMs,
or anybody else for that matter to change any parameters for them they
like and them they do not like.
That should be considered a criminal act imo..
 
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Don't bite Slither, he's just taking the piss and can't really be that stupid.
 
Sorry, your lists doesn't make sense to me.

LucidTerror said:
Just look at this, something happened in Feb 2015 for her.
From 20 pedders to this :

Feffox Young 415 PED Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:32:17
Feffox Young 75 PED Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:05:55
Feffox Young 211 PED Mon, 20 Apr 2015 16:57:05
Feffox Young 168 PED Mon, 20 Apr 2015 16:31:40
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As this are my logs I miss alot of it, but the mobs doesn't match.

2015-03-07 19:09:22 Formidon Young 90 PED at Greenthorne
2015-04-08 17:46:07 Ambulimax Young 201 PED at Nea's Place
2015-04-08 18:26:05 Feffox Young 52 PED
2015-04-08 21:07:08 Ambulimax Young 75 PED at Nea's Place
2015-04-08 21:26:47 Ambulimax Young 52 PED at Nea's Place
2015-07-23 20:54:30 Longtooth Young 141 PED


LucidTerror said:
E-Amp 11 77 PED Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:51:10
E-Amp 11 1 301 PED Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:36:07
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2015-04-23 18:26:40 E-Amp 11 94 PED
2015-04-23 18:32:49 E-Amp 11 1301 PED A record has been added to the Hall of Fame.
2015-04-23 18:47:52 E-Amp 11 77 PED

LucidTerror said:
She healed some ppl and all of a sudden, she gets hofs in everything she did.
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Maybe that's the thing? That a part of the loot/Dynamics is calculated for the healing cost and there is a flaw somewhere Deep inside when using a fapper.
 
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aia said:
Sorry, your lists doesn't make sense to me.

As this are my logs I miss alot of it, but the mobs doesn't match.

Maybe that's the thing? That a part of the loot/Dynamics is calculated for the healing cost and there is a flaw somewhere Deep inside when using a fapper.
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Their not your mobs, paranoid? -1

Interesting about the fapper thingy, +1
but that doesnt explain the uber hofs at lvl 0 skills..
They do not make any sense.. Except if foul play.
Maybe that's the thing? That a part of the loot/Dynamics is calculated for the healing cost and there is a flaw somewhere Deep inside when using a fapper.
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Thank you!
+++1
 
The concept of sine waves that some ppl mentioned didn't ring a bell.
OK, apparently work of the evil garden gnome then...

garden-gnome.jpg
 
I give up..

If you want to keep losing, then proceed on as you normally do in game. Coming on forums to complain about bad returns and not hofing/globaling or not reaching 90% tt returns is nothing new here.

However, I don't know what you expect to be done about it. I think the sine waves theory is the best one we have going right now, so if you feel like your avatar has an especially bad pattern (very long low swing with sharp upticks) then send a support case to MA about it, transfer all of your ped/items/skills to a newly created account and have them delete your old account..

Multiple players have done this. But if you do this and your returns are still bad then you need to start looking at your play style.

For the record... 105-106% muscle oil at 30-40% distribution on a mob averages out to be an extra 1.5-2% markup compared to mobs that drop liver and pancreas oil that sell for 101%.
 
Rocket192 said:
I give up..

If you want to keep losing, then proceed on as you normally do in game. Coming on forums to complain about bad returns and not hofing/globaling or not reaching 90% tt returns is nothing new here.

However, I don't know what you expect to be done about it. I think the sine waves theory is the best one we have going right now, so if you feel like your avatar has an especially bad pattern (very long low swing with sharp upticks) then send a support case to MA about it, transfer all of your ped/items/skills to a newly created account and have them delete your old account..

Multiple players have done this. But if you do this and your returns are still bad then you need to start looking at your play style.

For the record... 105-106% muscle oil at 30-40% distribution on a mob averages out to be an extra 1.5-2% markup compared to mobs that drop liver and pancreas oil that sell for 101%.
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Where else should I go with this problem?
I'm gonna tell you right now that you, are in the wrong thread criticizing
us who wants to talk about our problem, all of you who has replied with some
kiddy answers and flames, its is you who has nothing to do in here.

Nobody forces you to read the post, and certanly not to reply with shitty comments.
Get out of the post or come with creative answers.
You can't tell how it feels getting hit by a truck until you have been hit by one.

Admin should remove these crap replies.
 
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A few months ago I suggested to a player to try playing Entropia in a different way as he was starting to find it a chore.

He did, but although he found my suggestion less than exciting and soon stopped doing it, he found his own new way of playing Entropia in a different way to how he previously did.

To the best of my knowledge he still plays actively, he just had to give up his 'old' way and now finds more enjoyment in his 'new' way.


Hunting, Mining and Crafting are the three 'big' professions most of us indulge in, but there are others.

Try something different. Or do what you do, differently. :)
 
LucidTerror said:
Where else should I go with this problem?
I'm gonna tell you right now that you, are in the wrong thread criticizing
us who wants to talk about our problem, all of you who has replied with some
kiddy answers and flames, its is you who has nothing to do in here.

Nobody forces you to read the post, and certanly not to reply with shitty comments.
Get out of the post or come with creative answers.
You can't tell how it feels getting hit by a truck until you have been hit by one.

Admin should remove these crap replies.
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Maybe they should start with yours.

You don't have to like what other people say.. but the same thing goes for others as it relates to you.

So far I just see you don't know what turnover is and what happens when you condition craft a 50ped item.
 
Rikky said:
I miss those days when everybody profitted everyday all the time. Stupid MA.
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:lolup:

Everybody profited all the time? How does that work? Doesn't MA need at least as much money coming in as going out? Haven't people been complaining about bad loot cycles from the beginning?

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?14296-Crappy-loot-PE-Casino-HoF-ATHs

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?11894-protest

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?12803-Recent-ped-Loss-anyone

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?15561-Hunting

Obviously These posts are mostly from 2005 not the beginning, but I believe it still applies.
 
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I see some people don't believe in the 50% return, but it's something real !

For example you do whatever for 500 ped, and even with eventual globals, result is exactly 250 ped.
i ve seen 40% rarely , but often 60-70-80 % ...

I don't know who made up the 90% rule, but it s not a rule, so please admit it.
It is possible to experience 50% return consistently ...i know it for fact.

Of course perhaps, one day, a 100k global will come and make the 90% return true, but in the mean time the player is experiencing constant losses, and deposits (the amount doesn't really matter with 50-70% return) only provide a few hours of activity before the avatar is unable to keep playing... and must depo again, to lose it all again in few runs!
 
tribal556 said:
I see some people don't believe in the 50% return, but it's something real !

I don't know who made up the 90% rule, but it s not a rule, so please admit it.
It is possible to experience 50% return consistently ...i know it for fact.
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Dont worry there is no need for others to admit it, there has been a flood of players Noober - Uber saying the same thing and many with compelling evidence.

I have a thread going about this affliction, with the feedback of many there has been a lot of suggestions as to how to minimize this return rate as much as possible. And for now thats all we can do...

  • Team Hunting
  • Taming


Seem to be 2 options to give more stability to loot returns. But until I know more for myself I will just mention that those are proven to help in this case by others. To some extent, once I test it then ill stand behind these idea's more.
 
KullXP said:
Seem to be 2 options to give more stability to loot returns.
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Meanwhile after claiming of loosing 100ks of peds, dont forget to make 50 ped logged runs once a month to prove ur 'right' :lolup:
 
Piotr said:
Meanwhile after claiming of loosing 100ks of peds, dont forget to make 50 ped logged runs once a month to prove ur 'right' :lolup:
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Claiming???


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The fact that the loots been so bad im scared to shoot even 50 ped, Thats the alarming thing...

And this year I only depo'ed a fraction of the previous years...

You and others can try to twist or make it look like im stretching stuff (The Truth), but I have been nothing but truthful and honest so that tactic wont work here, GL never hurts to try :yay:
 
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So how come ur depos to tracking returns n claiming 50% returns? lol
And what tactics? Showing logs on forum that proves ur claims wrong? While u cant show a single one that proves urs? (not talkin about a day or week's hunting log) I have my log with over 2 million peds turnover so i dont need to make up anything.

But again, what to expect from those who spend more time on pcf then ingame :)
Promised not to write replies to ur 'points' but weeks after weeks u keep spamming the same misfacts n lies which is boring now. Even the guy who hunts the most uneco (using MF) AND LOGS HIS RETURNS LONG TERM gets over 90% return but u can just check many 'noob' logs, all over 90%, had to put noob in ' ' cause they r not the real noobs in this game as we can see.

Some just for fun
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?281012-pSyCHe-s-Hunting-Log
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?168760-Noiseless-Hunting-Log
ECO MATTERS
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?224739-Smilgs-hunting-log

Also can check Star's log (not that long but still) and i saw pretty good logs and comparisons on arkadia forums too
 
Piotr said:
So how come ur depos to tracking returns n claiming 50% returns? lol
And what tactics? Showing logs on forum that proves ur claims wrong? While u cant show a single one that proves urs? (not talkin about a day or week's hunting log) I have my log with over 2 million peds turnover so i dont need to make up anything.

But again, what to expect from those who spend more time on pcf then ingame :)
Promised not to write replies to ur 'points' but weeks after weeks u keep spamming the same misfacts n lies which is boring now. Even the guy who hunts the most uneco (using MF) AND LOGS HIS RETURNS LONG TERM gets over 90% return but u can just check many 'noob' logs, all over 90%, had to put noob in ' ' cause they r not the real noobs in this game as we can see.

Some just for fun
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?281012-pSyCHe-s-Hunting-Log
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?168760-Noiseless-Hunting-Log
ECO MATTERS
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?224739-Smilgs-hunting-log

Also can check Star's log (not that long but still) and i saw pretty good logs and comparisons on arkadia forums too
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Im on forum now after getting slaughtered in game with even the most eco setup, even with all UL gear eco setups.

As far as calling me a liar and im spreading lies well I have already proven time and time again im telling the truth.

But your word on the other hand after a long time of watching what id call shady practices over the years. Tring to take advatange of players who do not know the value of somthing and either tring to trick them and over charge them or trick them to sell there stuff way lower and loose.

As you did when you tried to take advantage of players and sell a Bristol Hog to someone for 5k 2 days before update. Right before it became usless...

Piotr said:
Now u just talked against urself in reversed case scenario. Cause this time i say price gonna fall hard and u say it will not.
And wtf is that with u my bristle? With good buff it could have been worth 10k but with the buff it got its worth... nothing. All were free to decide if wanted to gamble on it or not
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You were tring to get a player to gamble knowing it could have gone bad after the update, but you would have had 5k more ;)

Where you tried to mislead players of prices,
Check your chat logs from :
2015-03-20 12:36:27
to
2015-03-20 17:01:18

Again misleading players on prices...

Check your logs, 2015-07-13 10:53:06

Then you told everybody on forum that my friends christmas ring was usless and they wouldnt get 10 - 15k for it. Not only did you try to devalue my friends one and only nice loot you called it usless. They ended up selling it for 30k, you tried to trick them out of 1500 dollars... and/or devalue it

Piotr said:
10-15k top, the missing crit % is huge eco nerf compared to ares ring
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Piotr said:
Yes when it was in top 10 highest lvl pet ingame :)
What u really should focus on is that neither me nor linzey wanna buy this ring cause trust me, when we something useful we jump on it.
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It turned out it was something very useful and worth a whole lot. With all your success and years of game play you ended up being wrong there so you could be wrong about this thread. If you werent wrong you were purposely misleading my friend.

That Thread:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?280658-Christmas-Ring-2015


If I have to do stuff like this to make it in this game I think it is better not to play. Taking advantage of people is not my strong suit. Taking a stand for the people is....
 
Pretty pathetic attempt to turn 'wrong return' thread into me 'scamming and misleadin' ppl :laugh:
And what most eco setup bashin? I linked 'noob' log too which as of now stands at 93% return, or maybe he is using uber stuffs too?
About 30k rings, probably the same guy who bought mod resto chip for 80k when they can be made from 55k. Anyhow I dare u to see how much those event prize rings will sell for, closer to 30 or closer to 15k. And even if u were true about that, i couldnt care less, i put my valuation didnt 'decept' anyone unlike u with ur 'claims'. U depoed over 1k this month and u wanna poke our eyes with a 50 ped hunt, seriously? Or maybe u lost all that 1k in that 50 ped hunt? :D

Dont be such a bristlefobic :D
 
I was just stating you are a very bad source of information and, that you contributions to this thread might be misleading as they were in the past.

Yep, as you can see im a depositor.

Just because you have peds on your card doesnt mean you have to spend them. Until I figure out what I can do to stop these insanely bad returns, ill keep investing in CLD's and other secure returns.

Even with a proper invested amount in such items and super eco low defense cost runs im not pulling this 90%. No matter how eco you go, so its simple after viewing how split some are on this topic, all of our loot patterns or returns are just not the same.

The loot is dynamic, no one on here can say your guaranteed anything, no matter how many logs you make. If you could map it that easily then people would figure it out quick and the game would be over...
 
KullXP said:
I was just stating you are a very bad source of information and, that you contributions to this thread might be misleading as they were in the past.
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One of ur problems is u put 'opinion' and 'test results' in the same hood. Valuation (especially on new items) is OPINION idk why the hell u keep bringing that up but whatever makes u happy
 
You all ARE oblivious to the fact that he is mostly right. But you all are just arguing the numbers. It's true. Hitting something over V in mining is rare now. Loot has gone to shit. But all you guys wanna do is argue over the numbers. I don't want a 90% return but it looks like you all like it that way and it will stay that way.
 
KullXP said:
The loot is dynamic, no one on here can say your guaranteed anything, no matter how many logs you make. If you could map it that easily then people would figure it out quick and the game would be over...
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Agreed but the word "dynamic" is too friendly.
 
golddude said:
You all ARE oblivious to the fact that he is mostly right. But you all are just arguing the numbers. It's true. Hitting something over V in mining is rare now. Loot has gone to shit. But all you guys wanna do is argue over the numbers. I don't want a 90% return but it looks like you all like it that way and it will stay that way.
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MindArk has emailed me about my account inactivity. Why? Because loot is sh!t, for me...and for the lucky f*cks too...though they may uber with 1000K+ PED loots, it's 90% comprised of ammo...and shatnell, which you turn INTO ammo.

Meanwhile, idiot EP "crafters"...which doesn't require one iota of gaming skills...pollute the global and HOF boards with their grand "accomplishments".

Get a clue, MA...my account is inactive time and time again, each and every year, because of my impossible chance to loot an uber loot, and if I DID get that luck, all I'd have to show for it is ammo turnover...and because hunting and mining just ain't FUN or have anything to look forward to...unless, of course, you're one of the Chosen Ones.

O.P. may be pissed but I agree I have the same criticisms of the piss-poor loot model these days.
 
I track returns and my return % hasn't changed at all, however mark ups have and makes it so much harder to break even/profit. On top of this now in hunting a chunk of returns is shrapnel, which when introduced people said would increase mark ups. This did happen until introduction of Explosive ammo prints which totally ravaged mark up in mining, and also hunting to a lesser degree.

I still do ok but now sell in small stacks which of course greatly affects my turnover hunting, as for mining i now only mine for what i need and tbh tend to buy rather than mine most stuff as is cheaper than mining it out to buy ores/enmats at 101-104%.

There is still profit in game, but much less opportunity than in past to do so. As for myself i thought things were better before the changes that came, but adapt or quit as we always say and i adapted. This results in lower time hunt/mine/craft as i slowly build ped for my next grind session, not desirable but the only way i can continue to play without losing hand over fist.

I really do think that maybe new blueprints are needed, that once again increase consumption of mined/hunted materials that are actually worth crafting. Explosive bp's and nanocubes really affected consumption of materials over the board and is the main cause for concern imo.


Dibbler
 
Ha! but we "loosers" don't doubt about your success, it is just that experience is very unequal from one player to another....

Look at what happen, some people craft 24/7 but can't hit more than that, then someone come, craft 5 min, and got loot.
Same goes with hunting.

Is it unfair? perhaps no, can't know for sure who is doing what, but still , that does seem there are some people who can play more or less for free (why is everyone is lv 70+ now? they are all rich??)

Personally,after a brief period of success i can see my progress is seriously hindered by very low returns... i don't play better or worse than before, just the same !!

I can already hear the "adapt or die" thing.. but adapt to what ? whatever i do is catastrophic.
I got disconnected every 30 min for some reason, it is so dynamic ?
it s like loot table is reloaded everytime i find something to make money.

Believe or not, but how comes so many players gone from "successful" to "trash" over a few days/week?
Seriously.. why are some selling all their stuff ? because it s just doesn't work anymore, perhaps they are trying to renew the player base, or keep only the good "elements" i don't know, but something is going on.

Some of the top "spenders" are doing nothing for weeks, it is clear... watch it... how comes?
they are all gone from smart to dumb in 24hr?
 
wtf.
..... what are you hunting punies for all those years?

come hunt with me... i think you'll have some better luck... just hit a 500 ped madana mature a week ago.
 
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