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    Current State of EU and its future

    Hello.

    I shall warn this is going to be a long post.

    As you know I play this game for over 8 years now,
    I love the game, otherwise I wouldn't be here, report all I can for the sake of fairness and play clean, without breaking any rule or when i feel I might be doing cos i get threaten ingame, I take the step ahead and ask if what i was doing was breaking the rules in any means.
    Due to this love for the game I got, I don't want it gone, I want it more enjoyable each day so it brings more people and it keeps on living on.
    I shared enough that I was told and learnt over times.

    This will be by no means bitching about EU / loots / whatever, is just my humble experience and why it saddens me, because it slowly breaks the game to its end.... Something I don't want as this is one of the things I love having as a hobby.
    I don't mean it that hardly, just as fun purpose when I do a joking post, but I gladly can say unlike lots of other EU players, I am sucessfull in EU, all I depo was 20$ for boxes in attempt of (L) rings which i got, so all i got in ped / skills was gained over hard work / time, but this is just to proof I don't come here to bitch about some stuff, but how it feels I get threated differently and playing clean isnt really on our side.

    So on topic...

    As i mentioned I contacted support multiple times pointing out bugs, flaws and people breaking the game, for the sake of EU's longevity with fair gameplay and enjoyable for all.
    When I asked, yes at times with my troll talk I did cross the mark, but since i love EU, I thanked always for sharing if what I did was good or not to do and changed that, gladly, on that, never got a punishment, however what I did was mostly crap talk, went over the mark, sure, for fun, but never taking it to RL, because that is sickning.

    Because I'm quite open with my opinion I usually share it and so do my friends, if we see cheating we will call out people for it and report asap... whoever it is, even if in our friendslist. Abusing bugs to take advantage shouldn't be tolerated, some might find out and do it even by accident or not knowing, the right thing to do is contact support about it to know if you can keep doing whatever, what players call out, for the most part, isnt legit, like mob trains, most hate it, but well they are allowed in pvp now, even tho quite a joke.

    So here's where the issue starts..

    I report whatever I may find somewhat fishy, if i got enough proof or showing what I mean,
    I shall not name people at all, but i know for a fact I sucessfully got a pirate locked temporarly for 30 days for abusing a glitch, which was the only thing that made me half glad and half sad, as I reported far more serious things in the past, but at least shown they did something.

    Sadly support closes eyes to things that are obviously game breaking

    Real Life Threats

    I got threaten irl multiple times, and i dont mean the simple "im going to kill you!!"
    I mean to the level of people that know my family that also share the same hobby, know where I live, got my phone number and even traced me on social media things, saying that I will regret my days and my family shall suffer.
    It got to that point of sickness so obviously I reported, drunk or not, its not a conduct to have with other players, it is against the rules and shouldn't be taken lightly....
    So obviously I sent a support with all evidence possible even with messages from social media i proving the identity of both sides.

    What was done?
    I still see all the players I report, freely walking, having the exact same erractic behaviour towards me and people that they know to be my friends, taking it to other scale

    Harassing

    This Is the section I prolly hinted out the most.
    When people got nothing but the intention of trying to hurt others feelings (words from MA) it is considered harassing and should / will be punishable, this i when i was advised to changed my words a bit, but I also asked if I could contact and show the harassing thrown in my way abcent any provoking.
    So I provided logs, from some players that harass me not over days, nor weeks... but years, players that get off their way to find where I am, what I do, who I am with, I even mostly stoped streaming since it'd give away the location I was at and I know some watched to trace it, and what I had or not....
    A lot of shit talk and this kind of stuff with the clear intention they had, so I had to report

    What was done?
    Maybe some punishment, not sure but i still see all freely walking by, with the same behaviour...

    Select Target Macro

    This is more commonly known
    I had people admiting they do it, I tracked down the very first user of this, some years ago and reported his unusual hit rate, not being sore loser because I dont take pvp serious at all or take a role in the WSS / Entropy war, but i do take my cut on fairness.
    After the multiple reports, all saying they look into it and saying "yes abusing macros for advantage is banable".
    I even provided proof of players admiting they do use macros.

    What was done?
    They get to roam around each day doing it, using excuse "Oh i must use it because XXX of XXX soc uses it so i need to be in same ground for advantage.
    Tell you what, If someone kills a friend of yours irl, if you go and kill him back, it wont make you an avenger, it'll make you just the same kind of killer

    Pick up macro

    This is the only sucess rate yet...
    A lot of people had a macro for Next Target+ Pick up object, a LOT of all societies and skill lvls used it, I reported each single one of them with proper proof.
    Gladly it got removed, but no one ever got punished for it, so basicly they got away free abusing a bug and profiting out of it? fair? nope.

    Multiple Avatars/Bought avatars

    It is more than clear that a lot of accounts been sold and a lot of players also admited out in public they have more than one account.
    I questioned MA clearly about this, since I only have my account "Am I allowed to buy an account, have multiple accounts?" The answer was a No to all, it is by no means allowed.

    Then I ask... why do i see a lot of players with bought accounts?
    People with tons of alts to manipulate markets on some stuff or just use them to "incognito" their names on auctions, I could name a few, but again, it'd be breaking rules.

    I reported it, made it clear, yet i see the same day on and on, and I dont speak of tinfoil hat, I take my time before I take my conclusions.

    Botting

    Recently I heard and saw a lot of videos of players using some bot that auto hunts for them in a non clever way, and clearly not human, possibly for the greed of skills.
    I witnessed it myself, I pm'd that person, no reply, from all the times i saw that person using it.
    Then when he went back to normal hunting I'd get a msg back "sry was afk"
    Probably that person didnt know i pulled 1 mob or 2 near to find out his behaviour, which shocked me and made me sad.
    And what i witnessed was for sure not the only case.

    What happens? This and many more keep scoring fat hofs, good item loots,
    The lesson I take? Its rewarding to cheat, you'll get payback.





    This are most of the cases I could come up with,

    At this very moment my frustration is high with EU,
    I love the game as I mentioned, dont want it gone, but this unfairness going on and nothing being done, its heartbreaking from something you love.
    I spend my good fair share of my time in EU logged in, and these days with what I see, to get rewarded I need to cheat or go to others lvl... something its against my ethical code.
    I troll/ have fun, laugh, its the point of enjoying this, enjoy a good time and have fun


    I will update this thread with more cases if I do remember them because sadly there's more
    Try to keep this thread clean for the most part as this is not to favor 1 player or 2, this is my hope to see a change in fairness for the sake of all Entropia players.

    Cheers and good luck
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    Perhaps you should find other activities for you. I found (as moved back in time), now I'm happy to mining again and spit on all these macros, bots, and all the rest. And quite pleased, because no one can break my personal gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gewitter View Post
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    Perhaps you should find other activities for you. I found (as moved back in time), now I'm happy to mining again and spit on all these macros, bots, and all the rest. And quite pleased, because no one can break my personal gameplay.
    I've been personaly been hunting, but even on that, I still suffer of some of the things i mentioned above.
    I still doesnt make it fair to be people abusing bugs and taking advantage that is gamebreaking and will gain economical advantages because of it
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    Well this is kinda depressing and unfair,we even had videos on pcf and i saw some others on yt and i see that people globaling and playing normal every day they must get warned like little children "you are naughty boy don't do it again or you get spanked" ffs.The communication with MA is like talking to a wall but you have to understand they are to busy making pokemon apps,new boxes,voodoo dolls,planets and such or maybe they just don't care.Proly having wet dreams about new shit they will implement in next VU that will devalue your gear and be avatar bound.
    "Everyone loves money. Money will undermine and overrule everything else."

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    I've been personaly been hunting, but even on that, I still suffer of some of the things i mentioned above.
    I still doesnt make it fair to be people abusing bugs and taking advantage that is gamebreaking and will gain economical advantages because of it
    As long as around us are too many not very honest people, it is impossible to build a perfect world. Developers also are not gods, and the same things happens in all other games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gewitter View Post
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    As long as around us are too many not very honest people, it is impossible to build a perfect world. Developers also are not gods, and the same things happens in all other games.
    Yes, same things happens in other games aswell, but on big majority of games you do get banned even from bit harsher jokes, not to even mention exploiting, harassment, botting and such.

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    Well this is kinda depressing and unfair,we even had videos on pcf and i saw some others on yt and i see that people globaling and playing normal every day they must get warned like little children "you are naughty boy don't do it again or you get spanked" ffs.The communication with MA is like talking to a wall but you have to understand they are to busy making pokemon apps,new boxes,voodoo dolls,planets and such or maybe they just don't care.Proly having wet dreams about new shit they will implement in next VU that will devalue your gear and be avatar bound.
    This is what I ment,
    MA enabling such behaviours only drive people passionate about EU away from it due to the unfairness...
    Most only see cash for this game, not the fun, someone i know even begged a bank owner for a quick loan over the price of his gear then because he needed the cash for his mom cancer treatment, all in the attempts to fool someone naive and nice for cash...

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    As long as around us are too many not very honest people, it is impossible to build a perfect world. Developers also are not gods, and the same things happens in all other games.
    That is true, its RCE, people show their colors for money and who they are, some is just a matter of how much, some few wouldnt bend over any ammount.

    I could even quote a friend when he said... "If MA met mafia they'd blush"
    I hate doing that tinfoil hate thing abcent proof but i got some of my own and it starts being sad that just because im a smaller costumer, or because i withdrew (Im guessing) im seen as less, or at least feels like it
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    Do like Andrey says: Enjoy EU in different ways, and you'll see how the game is still just as good as it was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkiller View Post
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    Do like Andrey says: Enjoy EU in different ways, and you'll see how the game is still just as good as it was
    I did and do,
    Doesnt change fact bugs are still out
    People abuse it, they frustrate the players and show lil care for them.
    And the game we love will cease to exist in the future if it goes on this path

    This year alone what kind of content we even had?

    The same old bot events/mayhems?

    What about REAL content, new mob, new area, new quests, new stuff.
    Cant really tell me the plot thing is pulling a lot of players into it at this very moment.

    It'd make players far more excited a new area or dungeon/mob, and some harsh bug fixes than anything going at this moment.

    Because in all fairness, the winners are already set before the start, only the same players hold chances to win.
    I personally dont participate ever cos i know my odds.
    But some people do try, and they get frustrated to see the path it goes, and less and less players participate each single year on those

    This will be the same for everything else
    Frustration will drive people away.
    Its a competitive market for games, and quite nice looking

    With al going on I feel more tempted selling all my assets and sit on the ped / withdrawl and wait for a change i'd be glad about
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