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    Call for disciplinary action on the part of all UA cheaters during this years Merry Mayhem.

    As an investor and CLD holder of Planet Calypso, I along with others like me are entitled to receive a portion of the planet partner profits paid every week.

    This normally occurs without issue.

    However, during this years Merry Mayhem an exploit was discovered which allowed certain individuals the capability to artificially dip into the Planet Partner income mechanism and undeservedly obtain money that did not belong to them through the UA rewards, then subsequently use it toward their own benefit. This process was repeatable and resulted in a significant interruption of Planet Partner income, as reflected by CLD payouts being nonexistent during the Christmas Holiday week, and significantly reduced the week prior.

    This was acknowledged as a problem by MindArk, and I believe MindArks decision to hold the entire playerbase responsible by not issuing payouts is nothing more than providing tacit approval to those who exploited the system, while punishing those who did not by forcing them to pay for the misdeeds of others.

    I wish to remind MindArk that this sort of conduct by players is unacceptable, and it must be punished in order to maintain an ethical standard within the community.

    The punishment should be as follows:

    1) Minor exploiters: 30 day ban from the Entropia Universe system. During such ban any CLD that the exploiter holds will not pay out, nor will any property. Instead all income will be diverted to reimburse the Planet Partner and non exploiting CLD holding accounts.

    2) Major Exploiters (and those who continued exploiting after the warning provided by MA): Permanent ban. Complete asset liquidation via auction. All proceeds go towards reimbursing the Planet Partner and non exploiting CLD holding accounts.

    Theft from others demands swift action. These players knowingly and intentionally stole from other community members. By MindArk's own code of conduct their actions are unacceptable and should result in immediate removal from the game.

    Thank you for your time reading this.

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    You clearly didn't think this through, at all...

    Yea, lets ban people for 30 days so they can't make MA extra income in those 30 days. That will only serve to reduce CLD profits even more, and maybe even make them quit after 30 days.

    Keeping people out of the game does nothing but harm the game. MA wants them spending for those 30 days and beyond.

    If you want to punish them, take PED from their cards, set them at a negative balance, or take their items and put them in global action.

    A temporary ban serves absolutely no purpose in this game.

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    Citation of information regarding this cheat or repeatable exploit? Only heard speculation and that said repeatable action did not work.

    Otherwise, agree with disciplinary action.

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    All we know is that someone or something screwed up and MA posted a message blaming "exploiters" and everyone wigged out. It's kind of like the way that politicians are labeling everyone they don't like as a "terrorist". I'm still waiting for a full explanation before I buy into the hysteria.
    Disgusted since 2006.

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    I've seen a hundred theorize as to how this was done, all argued against. I agree, what is the exact exploit?

    Was the exploit even just participating at all? Perhaps you exploited too and don't know it? Maybe getting any ammo at any point was the exploit?

    Maybe you should be banned under your own opinion Magyar, for exploiting by just partaking in the event (my point being we don't know what the exploit is, how it was done, or even if you yourself did it unaware it was the exploit simply by participating). We just don't know enough yet to start pointing fingers and punishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicstorm View Post
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    Citation of information regarding this cheat or repeatable exploit? Only heard speculation and that said repeatable action did not work.
    http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...-Mayhem-Update

    "Unfortunately, due to some users exploiting the generosity of the bonus rewards, it has been necessary to disable the Universal Ammo bonus rewards in the Merry Mayhem Free-For-All category. As quest rewards are part of the weekly Calypso Land Deed revenue calculation, this abuse will negatively effect the CLD revenue for the current week."

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    Otherwise, agree with disciplinary action.
    I believe you have your citation there, directly from MA. That's all we need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magyar_Republic View Post
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    http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...-Mayhem-Update

    "Unfortunately, due to some users exploiting the generosity of the bonus rewards, it has been necessary to disable the Universal Ammo bonus rewards in the Merry Mayhem Free-For-All category. As quest rewards are part of the weekly Calypso Land Deed revenue calculation, this abuse will negatively effect the CLD revenue for the current week."



    I believe you have your citation there, directly from MA. That's all we need to know.

    Yea, that doesn't state how it was done at all. For all we know anyone participating did it using your above quote from MA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venture Bros View Post
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    Yea, that doesn't state how it was done at all. For all we know anyone participating did it using your above quote from MA.
    This is nonsense. You're basically asking MA to disclose who did it. That's for them to decide, using their logs and their definitions. Not for you or any other player to decide. Obviously there was an exploit. Obviously money was stolen from other players during this exploit on a large scale. So why is it not obvious that there needs to be a remedy to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magyar_Republic View Post
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    This is nonsense. You're basically asking MA to disclose who did it. That's for them to decide, using their logs and their definitions. Not for you or any other player to decide. Obviously there was an exploit. Obviously money was stolen from other players during this exploit on a large scale. So why is it not obvious that there needs to be a remedy to this?
    Not who, how. Unless we know how we cannot make suggestions of what to do. For all we know you exploited too by simply playing in the event and making a single 'legitimate' exchange.

    Unless we know how the exploit was done, we don't know how widespread it was. For all we know 99% of MM participants exploited. For all we know simply getting ANY UA from the event was an exploit.


    We don't know shit, and thus we shouldn't make shitty suggestions like you are attempting due to the complete lack of knowledge and understanding in the subject. Just as MA should find who did it, they should punish based on their own decisions, not ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magyar_Republic View Post
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    Not for you or any other player to decide.

    How can you say that it's not up to us to decide who to punish, but then try to decide yourself, with other players, the punishment. That is the most hypocritical thing I have read in some time.

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