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Ace Flyster

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You clearly have no idea how to advertise this game. Banner ads to people that already play are useless and pointless.

Here's the idea: I will spend my hard earnt cash in real life. And advertise this game for you. In return i will have the revenue share these players cycle.

Christ almighty, just one TV ad and i would be damn rich within two years.

Easily enough done. The link will be one only assigned to me, so all avatars made through that link, I will get the revenue share. Just like CLD's or planet partners.


Rgds

Ace

EDIT: I truly believe in this game!


Ideas:
Advertise on Steam
Twitch.tv gamers
 
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Yeah, I must agree I can imagine the marketing to be done better, and if only the banners I saw would have a different design, catch phrases.

Like "Mature MMO gamer?" and a girl next to it with seducing look JUST WONT MAKE IT (at least not for me).

If they would rather do something like "Entropia Universe" and below "Interplanetary Sci-Fi RCE MMORPG"
That just have to work better.

At least I would click that one just out of my curiosity, but I would definitely never click the add above that..
 
PW3CKA said:
Yeah, I must agree I can imagine the marketing to be done better, and if only the banners I saw would have a different design, catch phrases.

Like "Mature MMO gamer?" and a girl next to it with seducing look JUST WONT MAKE IT (at least not for me).

If they would rather do something like "Entropia Universe" and below "Interplanetary Sci-Fi RCE MMORPG"
That just have to work better.

At least I would click that one just out of my curiosity, but I would definitely never click the add above that..
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i agree, they remind me of the ads for crappy facebook games
 
FYI > MA

Marketing is a sign board telling folks you exist = visibility

V/S

Public relations is an invitation telling folks "you might like it here" = relationship



Two vastly different concepts.

There are only two things in this life i do professionally. Forex trading at night (because i love it) & Public relations by day (Professional services PR | Litigation PR) | Public Affairs (PR)
 
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I would target OCD-related sites and recruit millions of happy grinders :handjob:

"Entropia Universe: go mental in style"

"Obsessed with hand washing? Join EU, you will stop showering between Version Updates at all"

"Kill 10,000 mobs. Kill 100,000 mobs. Then it starts for real."
 
i would pay twitch.tv biggest streamers who average 20k viewers to play a hour a day.
 
WildD3mon said:
i would pay twitch.tv biggest streamers who average 20k viewers to play a hour a day.
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Pweedeepie? I forget the name. Does he still do youtube stuff? Although he might be a little expensive lol.


Rgds

Ace
 
'Played a game - got uber ? Like millions of others... -> Entropia Universe - see the difference'
 
Don't loose your time
REAL Sci-Fi MMO?
Live only the REAL thing
Trade and earn REAL money!
Join Entropia Universe NOW
Play for Free :)

Put something like that in Steam and other gaming websites
Not a naked model, casino-porn style crap!
 
Billy Jean Ruby

Don't loose your time
REAL Sci-Fi MMO?
Live only the REAL thing
Trade and earn REAL money!
Join Entropia Universe NOW
Play for Free

Put something like that in Steam and other gaming websites
Not a naked model, casino-porn style crap!
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Agreed :wise::lolup:

Faceof is Dynamic...;)
Faceof...:cool:
 
Lots of real world casinos have magazines in them that need advertising money.

Oh, and I hear there's this thing called a Superbowl coming up that you can put ads on... ;)
 
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No no, it's all backwards.

IF those 6 mil that were made from CLD sales really went into advertising (which is highly doubtful) THEN it was the worst management decision in Project Entropia history.
Instead of lowering the average return they should have done the exact opposite, increase it slowly, percent by percent.

THIS is effectively the only advertisement possible in RCE with permanent results.
Otherwise the bulk of the new players will leave soon after the newcomer incubation period is over and they meet the grim reality of the real RCE economy. Some even sooner.

There was this massive poll few years ago, MA asked the playerbase what's in their opinion the most important factor that needs improving in the game. The overwhelming majority said: "Bad returns!"

Not new content, not new engine, improved graphics. It's all a waste of money.
Work on the primary goal and the word of mouth will bring heaps of new players and much bigger percentage will indeed remain with the game and become active players.

It's the hardest thing to do, i know. Everything else is cheaper and easier. Yes it's an impossible task now for MA, I imagine, so yeah, apparently they choose to do something else instead...

Well, I know it only a pipe dream but still, it's all true and you know it. :yup:



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Before someone tells me "not everyone can make money" - indeed, there always has to be the majority that loses money, pays the bills and keeps the machine going. The question is how much do they pay. $10/month on medium level or $500, there's the difference. Economies of scale.

Once the economy gets to the level where 1/4 of playerbase manages to play for free or even make profit the word will get out. Their friends would soon hear about it, and their friends friends... a chain reaction, it would go viral on it's own without any advertisement.
This would create a natural tipping point, at this point the proof that it's possible to be successful becomes overwhelming. No more whining threads, it'll be as good as to announce "I'm a worthless loser no good for anything". Ppl would just laugh at you... In contrast to the current situation where the winners is a rare exception and biggest losers are the victims of the system.
 
I like to think that they dont spend on advertising becoz they know their severs can not handle more number of players and probably spending all their extra budget on that problem.

We all saw what happened in stress tests :laugh:
 
I used to think the marketing was delayed due to items on the development road map.

It's been 4 years of delays.

The road map no longer applies.

The person in charge of marketing should not be in charge of marketing.

The CLD sale money has been wasted.
 
Ace Flyster said:
Pweedeepie? I forget the name. Does he still do youtube stuff? Although he might be a little expensive lol.


Rgds

Ace
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Financial news today reporting that this guy made 12 million off youtube last year and is starting his own network in association with Disney. I assume he would get some eyeballs.
 
If they allowed affiliate links, this game would explode. The players can do it better and there is financial incentive to do so. Their ad words campaign is beyond wasteful as ad words often are. They are also very exploit or fraud heavy.
 
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For the 14th time...

MA does not want massive advertising. It wants you to think there is, but in reality, it just wants to grow by word of mouth and from us recommending it to other people with money to burn.

IF they every adverted this like they should...it would get on the mainstream radar very quickly. If that happens, either governments start banning it like the poker sites in the past, and like the fantasy sports gambling is today, OR worse, someone who has really deep pockets makes a better version.

The second this idea of a RCE reaches the critical tipping it would go viral faster than any game ever. Social media explosion and boom it is the number one searched game for 1 billion 13-45 year olds.

And when that happens, good bye little MA, and hello Sony or Blizzard, or any other company that is ran like an actual company, that has the means to do it right, and who doesn't need to rely on ripping off depositors worse than other players simple because they know we will keep depositing.

A new RCE would appear instantly, one that ISN'T shrouded in secrecy and handshake deals with players that live in or travel to Sweden on a regular basis.

We play in a corrupt, crooked world. Once too many people take notice, the company would collapse the first day it was investigated. (And dont give me that BS of the SGC, that was nothing)

If there is a fresh start anywhere else with a well made RCE, most of us are gone from EU. And there will be just Linzeys and Strykers left roaming this universe wondering where we all went.
 
Welp.. *throws gasoline*

Then there are those that continue to drive or attempt to drive players away from the game they are invested in, whether time or money, and because of that no amount of advertising will allow the game to propser because we keep knee capping ourselves as a gaming community. Many of which just are looking for scapegoats for why parts of the game are painful (and some improvements can be made and some better communication could be provided) and err deeply into perception bias. And those folks don't realize the emotional impact on the people they target without facts. I believe we would call that bullying and dances on a very fine line with thr EULA in game and forum. We are a fairly small community in comparison to MMOs. Some caution is needed.

And yes, if this game got on the us government radar, it would likely be banned.. because that's what those asshats do. But hey, get your powerball tix.. you aren't responsible enough to gamble online!
 
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Sunsout Gunsout said:
For the 14th time...

MA does not want massive advertising. It wants you to think there is, but in reality, it just wants to grow by word of mouth and from us recommending it to other people with money to burn.

IF they every adverted this like they should...it would get on the mainstream radar very quickly. If that happens, either governments start banning it like the poker sites in the past, and like the fantasy sports gambling is today, OR worse, someone who has really deep pockets makes a better version.

The second this idea of a RCE reaches the critical tipping it would go viral faster than any game ever. Social media explosion and boom it is the number one searched game for 1 billion 13-45 year olds.

And when that happens, good bye little MA, and hello Sony or Blizzard, or any other company that is ran like an actual company, that has the means to do it right, and who doesn't need to rely on ripping off depositors worse than other players simple because they know we will keep depositing.

A new RCE would appear instantly, one that ISN'T shrouded in secrecy and handshake deals with players that live in or travel to Sweden on a regular basis.

We play in a corrupt, crooked world. Once too many people take notice, the company would collapse the first day it was investigated. (And dont give me that BS of the SGC, that was nothing)

If there is a fresh start anywhere else with a well made RCE, most of us are gone from EU. And there will be just Linzeys and Strykers left roaming this universe wondering where we all went.
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Total agreement. Would be nice to see some competition to put MA in its place. Its ridiculous how corrupt this company is, yet covered by its small addicted community. Its only a matter of time, MA has done a awesome job creating EU but eventually a bigger fish will come along.
 
Botchla said:
Total agreement. Would be nice to see some competition to put MA in its place. Its ridiculous how corrupt this company is, yet covered by its small addicted community. Its only a matter of time, MA has done a awesome job creating EU but eventually a bigger fish will come along.
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Blizzard did try this in a different setting and failed very miserably. It will be very hard to reproduce entropia's success. It is a phenomenon perhaps.
 
Sunsout Gunsout said:
For the 14th time...

MA does not want massive advertising. It wants you to think there is, but in reality, it just wants to grow by word of mouth and from us recommending it to other people with money to burn.

IF they every adverted this like they should...it would get on the mainstream radar very quickly. If that happens, either governments start banning it like the poker sites in the past, and like the fantasy sports gambling is today, OR worse, someone who has really deep pockets makes a better version.

The second this idea of a RCE reaches the critical tipping it would go viral faster than any game ever. Social media explosion and boom it is the number one searched game for 1 billion 13-45 year olds.

And when that happens, good bye little MA, and hello Sony or Blizzard, or any other company that is ran like an actual company, that has the means to do it right, and who doesn't need to rely on ripping off depositors worse than other players simple because they know we will keep depositing.

A new RCE would appear instantly, one that ISN'T shrouded in secrecy and handshake deals with players that live in or travel to Sweden on a regular basis.

We play in a corrupt, crooked world. Once too many people take notice, the company would collapse the first day it was investigated. (And dont give me that BS of the SGC, that was nothing)

If there is a fresh start anywhere else with a well made RCE, most of us are gone from EU. And there will be just Linzeys and Strykers left roaming this universe wondering where we all went.
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Agreed with Taco's conclusion , that MA dont want to bring in game alot of players but alot of investors/quality ppls who like more to invest and socialize in virtual worlds , but...also in this side if u check it carefully MA DONT or CANT better things/advertises...!!!:scratch2:

Afraid or something await first???:scratch2:

Anyway for me its not huge player base the most important but the quality of player base!!!:wise:

Its RCE after all ...so quality is the major concerns /objectives of EU...

Faceof is Dynamic...;)
Faceof...:cool:
 
/Taco
some comments are accurate but some fairly unfair.
MA is way better from many other big game companies.

As about a massive EU player base, probably it will never happen, even with great advertisement.
Because fisrt this game is expensive and second stiff and very complicated for the majority of the people out there.
Very few will stay anyway.
 
I can not believe they are so stupid .. Through these CLD's they have "sold" the game "without" selling it,
hidden money through "tax planning" and now run the game under their own economy, that's why they have done now that everything have decrease in value so that they minimize the outflow of money and has put in lowest possible return to the players to maximize profits.

Now they can take it easy, it becomes profit is it ok ... Will it bankrupt its ok because they have got money for the games value.

:popcorn:
 
Billy Jean Ruby said:
/Taco
some comments are accurate but some fairly unfair.
MA is way better from many other big game companies.

As about a massive EU player base, probably it will never happen, even with great advertisement.
Because fisrt this game is expensive and second stiff and very complicated for the majority of the people out there.
Very few will stay anyway.
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One it DOES hit that tipping point in the gamer consciousness, absolutely NOTHING will keep them away. Yes player turnover might be high, but the sheer influx of players, the brute force that occurs once this game is mainstream, everything I said in the previous post will be unstoppable.
 
Technically (and probably for accounting purposes), the banner ads we see on Youtube are for Planet Calypso.

Those banners could easily be improved... at the moment, they look more like virtual-porn-game than what Entropia actually is. Having an atrox or argonaut instead of the blonde would probably be more appropriate.

I think a better campaign would revolve around the idea of Entropia being an alternate reality and your avatar is an alter-ego... similar to what Neverdie has been preaching for years (I am my avatar), and without hiding the realities of EU... something like:

Real money, Real profit, Real losses. How will you fare?​
 
SnowLeopard said:
Technically (and probably for accounting purposes), the banner ads we see on Youtube are for Planet Calypso.

Those banners could easily be improved... at the moment, they look more like virtual-porn-game than what Entropia actually is. Having an atrox or argonaut instead of the blonde would probably be more appropriate.

I think a better campaign would revolve around the idea of Entropia being an alternate reality and your avatar is an alter-ego... similar to what Neverdie has been preaching for years (I am my avatar), and without hiding the realities of EU... something like:

Real money, Real profit, Real losses. How will you fare?​
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Agree
personally I join Entropia because of Neverdie!
He knows how to "sell" this world better than any other :wise:
 
Ace Flyster said:
Ideas:
Advertise on Steam
Twitch.tv gamers
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If this game isn't advertised on Steam, and it isn't too expensive, I think its a good idea.

I think there is a possiblity the advertising budget may be being held back for ComPets, we will see in a few months I suppose. :dunno:
 
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