Petition to remove Explosive BPs (or change them) - Part 2

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Original thread by Moonbiter: Petition to remove Explosive BPs (or change them)

Hello everyone.

As some of you might be aware, i was an active miner a couple of years ago, and was playing pretty actively since 2006. In recent years some RL issues prevented me from actively playing, but i kept an eye on the market. This month i came back to pick up mining again, and frankly was horrified to learn what happened to markups.

After a bit of investigation, it turns out that Explosive projectiles with ingredients from TT is to blame. While i can understand the attraction of cheap residue, this in effect has ruined mining. While markups were steadily declining over the years, with some spikes for certain minerals, mining was still one of the safest professions when playing smart, and even allowed for certain risk taking with bigger amps in certain areas. Now however vast majority of areas are just worthless. There are only a select few minerals still having any reasonable markup, and they are usually among other worthless crap.

I really can't see how this change benefits anyone, except for maybe gambling crafters who are getting materials at TT price. So, i ask Entropia's mining community (and anyone else concerned about this change) to join me in this petition and demand a change.

If you agree with this petition, please reply with your full avatar name, and i will include you in the list below this post. Any insights into the issue and discussions are welcome. Thank you for your attention.

Edit: I have received some comments that this issue is affecting not only miners. This petition is by no means exclusive to miners, so if this fundamental change to economy affected you in a negative way, feel free to sign.

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List of names updated ------ Total signed so far 248


1)Luke Moonbiter Sinclair
2) lllllllllll Sachi lllllllllll
3)Miranda Montekis Nu
4)Saurn Accolade Cerillas
5)Granny Rowan Render
6)Neil Greenleaf Stockton
7)KingNobody Noway Nohow
8)MeLoveYou LongTime FiveDolla
9)Jimmy Xpl0jd Volten
10)Sean Rocket Connors
11)Valentin Sir Valentin Vladar
12)-- Zzuki --
13)dasouth Genious dasouth
14)East Coast Fishing Pond
15)Warvar Mortal Wild
16)sasha sale stormy
17)Lukasz Lukasz82 Sz
18)Paul Jetman Masters
19)Fred Ice Issue
20)Fate Thanatos Themis
21)KrupT KrupT RaveR
22)Sarian Light LeForge
23)Shaman 4400 Salvation
24)Lil swampy monster
25)Dawid Burks Bujak
26)Justin MADSTORM Teespoon
27)dobrin dobrinocb kushkiev
28)R4 1M 31
29)Tas r0ound Tadas
30)Martre Martre MArkusz
31)Tomas Tamosiunas Tumelis
32)Anny Divine Thundergirl
33)Vi V3r0nyka BitFury
34)Zeneth Zenzile Kael
35)Roslyn Kaz Farstar
36)Magnus Mag Ogg
37)Roberth Noname Rajala
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40)David Doer Falkayn
41)Snablesnot Male Young
42)Dar Hammer Dei
43)Teeghan Tee Mitexi
44)True TJ Juan
45)Sholle Von Cartiz
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48)Eric Shade Avenged
49)Adi Biliwen Wen
50)Jerry Wollo Wollongong
51)Teora Donte Schaub
52)Dark Amber Light
53)Brendan Slick Gould
54)Lewis Redwolf Dixon
55)Jet Schism Li
56)Chenghis LuisArkadov Pandoran
57)Eve Damsel Online
58)Billy Jean Ruby
59Fen Rellik Ris
60)Kitch Lazarus Nickletickler
61)david manic goliath
62)Hans Penguin Black
63)Shakal BigBenKrK-PL Wolf
64)Nitro SC Nitro
65)Kawa shurkamp saki
66)Lee Craig Marshall
67)Wesley Wes Valivill
68)Gionni Gunsy Novembri
69)Sirre Green
70)Сергей Котег Жиряков
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73)Lovely wondering bella
74)Acar Acarus Torus
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76)Simon Great Great
77)Coelacanth Coelacanth Maryka
78)Medb Lefty Lucy
79)Storm Spawn Bootcamp
80)Edward Magyar Republic
81)Sean Rocket Connors
82)Lester Worm Murphy
83)Moksha Mok Miller
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88)Christian UzzzY DeSalva
89)Founder god genesis
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147)Steve Stevie Vai
148)Cutmyownthroat Marvin Dibbler
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152)Alexander buck wyld
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154)sir mightymax
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159)Sholle Von Cartiz
160)Christoffer Cola Andersson
161)Mattias HeadHunter Hedman
162)Lyrisiana Lyz Zianac
163)Nika Nikolina Belic
164)Velum Mulev Ember
165)Catiana Cat Well
166)Hass Hassan Ingram
167)Barby Barbylicious Berry
168)Semmemmon Semm Strafkin
169)Luke Szalu Ace
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171)James Francis Cameron
172)Lady Crystal Uniqe
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174)hypnotica TRANCE blain
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176)The Ghost Raptor
177)Silent Guess Moses
178)Chi Sun Xiu
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182)Estrella OstraSuczka Dziadowna
183)Blixt Flash Gordon
184)Renbar Orban Felb
185)Angelreaper Demonikos Slayer
186)Ileana IleanaCosanzeana Cosanzeana
187)altu seinarjoha ilh
188)Pedro Wally Stormrage
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191)Valeriya Milachka Ponamareva
192)Paradox of Pandoras_box
193)Vincent Hoop Musty
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199)ManFromUniverse reorgas UNIVERSAL
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201) Mike Mad Mike Hoare
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this is killing the market and the game , i wonder how much MA are winning on this that they still dont do shit about it
 
blame the players who click it, MA loves their peds, won't remove it.
Its in our hands lol , but I guess gambling addiction is strong there.Enjoy
 
blame the players who click it, MA loves their peds, won't remove it.
Its in our hands lol , but I guess gambling addiction is strong there.Enjoy

Well a fine a example is the player who has 2 ATH on this bp and still carries on clicking on it. Lovely guy and i do like he chatting to him. If the VR Presdent can get MA to remove this the bp or nanocubes from TT they certainly would get a lot votes from players who ever they are.
 
Well a fine a example is the player who has 2 ATH on this bp and still carries on clicking on it. Lovely guy and i do like he chatting to him. If the VR Presdent can get MA to remove this the bp or nanocubes from TT they certainly would get a lot votes from players who ever they are.

I can give you many fine examples where people sold many assets or lost twice those ATH
 
Personally I think the two low level bps are fine, crafting need some cheap skill bp too, the higher ones could use some tweaking though with some added resources.

Or maybe just remove residue as a possiblity from xp bps.

Dont know if its already been metioned but it did have a big impact on eye oil/animal oil etc as well.
 
Or maybe just remove residue as a possiblity from xp bps.

And thats when craftin really dies. Resi removed but gamblers still click xplo instead of dynera or other 'gamble' bps. Hence ore MU stay low but amp price goes up
 
And thats when craftin really dies. Resi removed but gamblers still click xplo instead of dynera or other 'gamble' bps. Hence ore MU stay low but amp price goes up

Not necessarily. People would click basic filters / lifescanner-I / whatever_has_the_lowest_average_MU on quantity for the residue again. Of course, dacascos/dynera demand would not come back but the low end would get a boost.

Not 100% good but then, those ads promising 100% restored virginity are just a lie. :)
 
Personally I think the two low level bps are fine, crafting need some cheap skill bp too, the higher ones could use some tweaking though with some added resources.

Or maybe just remove residue as a possiblity from xp bps.

Dont know if its already been metioned but it did have a big impact on eye oil/animal oil etc as well.

Best fix would be to change the items used. Right now MA cut us all out by allowing us to now buy Tokens to play the crafters. Plain and simple. No other way to look at it. As well SGA (Sweden Gambling Authority) supports this since we are playing the crafters for skills.
 
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add me Acar Acarus Torus

thx
 
add me

Amue Crystal Moongate
 
Not 100% good but then, those ads promising 100% restored virginity are just a lie. :)

Have you tried it? You know those fake hymens actually save a lot of women's lives... particularly in the middle east.
 
Add me:
Simon Great Great
 
Count me in.

Coelacanth Coelacanth Maryka
 
Signed, because:

  • Universal ammo should work in every weapon type that uses ammo at all
  • We don't need so close a simulation of a slot machine (and it detracts from the game that is EU rather than adding to it)

Medb Lefty Lucy
 
add me

Storm Spawn Bootcamp
 
Signed.


Get rid of it. It is wholly unnecessary, and unlike what could be argued about other aspects of the game, it absolutely is gambling.

Edward Magyar Republic
 
Since was added mining market, oil, skins,... all went down so everybody is loosing on this one, except MA i guess. Either way sign me up, even if i doubt they will take any of our requests in consideration.
 
99.9% chance MA won't give a rat's ass about this... but they listened to the petition for the old mining system back in 2013-14.. so there's hope...

Sign me up

Sean Rocket Connors
 
Last edited by Moonbiter; 04-10-2015 at 19:26.

list updater is in vacation

Keep adding names. Asked to see if I could get rights to this thread
 
Add me Lester Worm Murphy
 
Half the revenue is still coming back to CLD owners right? if that's the case then some of it will eventually trickle down and make its way into the economy.
 
Add Me too.

Moksha Mok Miller
 
List so far, ppl who did not posted full names not on it

Luke Moonbiter Sinclair
lllllllllll Sachi lllllllllll
Miranda Montekis Nu
Saurn Accolade Cerillas
Granny Rowan Render
Neil Greenleaf Stockton
KingNobody Noway Nohow
MeLoveYou LongTime FiveDolla
Jimmy Xpl0jd Volten
Sean Rocket Connors
Valentin Sir Valentin Vladar
-- Zzuki --
dasouth Genious dasouth
East Coast Fishing Pond
Warvar Mortal Wild
sasha sale stormy
Lukasz Lukasz82 Sz
Paul Jetman Masters
Fred Ice Issue
Fate Thanatos Themis
KrupT KrupT RaveR
Sarian Light LeForge
Shaman 4400 Salvation
Lil swampy monster
Dawid Burks Bujak
Justin MADSTORM Teespoon
dobrin dobrinocb kushkiev
R4 1M 31
Tas r0ound Tadas
Martre Martre MArkusz
Tomas Tamosiunas Tumelis
Anny Divine Thundergirl
Vi V3r0nyka BitFury
Zeneth Zenzile Kael
Roslyn Kaz Farstar
Magnus Mag Ogg
Roberth Noname Rajala
TheRock Animalcommander RockY
Rekuftaog Goatts Powful
David Doer Falkayn
Snablesnot Male Young
Dar Hammer Dei
Teeghan Tee Mitexi
True TJ Juan
Sholle Von Cartiz
jimi seitsmes herb
Peezle Peez McPee
Eric Shade Avenged
Adi Biliwen Wen
Jerry Wollo Wollongong
Teora Donte Schaub
Dark Amber Light
Brendan Slick Gould
Lewis Redwolf Dixon
Jet Schism Li
Chenghis LuisArkadov Pandoran
Eve Damsel Online
Billy Jean Ruby
Fen Rellik Ris
Kitch Lazarus Nickletickler
david manic goliath
Hans Penguin Black
Shakal BigBenKrK-PL Wolf
Nitro SC Nitro
Kawa shurkamp saki
Lee Craig Marshall
Wesley Wes Valivill
Gionni Gunsy Novembri
Sirre Green
Сергей Котег Жиряков
Pedro Wally Stormrage
aztecrose aztec redrose
Lovely wondering bella
Acar Acarus Torus
Amue Crystal Moongate
Simon Great Great
Coelacanth Coelacanth Maryka
Medb Lefty Lucy
Storm Spawn Bootcamp
Edward Magyar Republic
Sean Rocket Connors
Lester Worm Murphy
Moksha Mok Miller
DAN de Maron
Mutak Joe XII
Pratahn Undercover Dwarf
FF Jin Franka
Christian UzzzY DeSalva
Founder god genesis
Kull Kullxp Holland
Boris Supaplex Ninic
Jek Scionyde Keldar
Darwi Dar Odrade
kondzio22 bonzol84 ken
John joshi Smith
gaina messi91 cristi
 
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The hof list is boring as hell!
Noone is clicking anything else nowadays.
I have never touched these BPs even though I like to gamble.
I´m one of the few gamblers left on this side, but it´s hopeless over here.
It doesn´t matter if materials are cheaper now, when you never hof, never see a nice BP pop up once in a while(Where the hell are they? Removed or like I said, noone clicking???) and when loot logically is overall worse(again, thx to noone clicking it) it´s big losses every damn run. Bigger than before and I was complaining even then...
It´s like hof hunting on a mob that noone is hunting. It will take forever, if ever at all.
If nothing happens I will be forced to click that shit, because I too want the chance of a big delicious ATH.
Until MA forces me over I will continue to contribute to the economy and buy other peoples shit, like I always have.

Sign me up.
 
Since was added mining market, oil, skins,... all went down so everybody is loosing on this one, except MA i guess. Either way sign me up, even if i doubt they will take any of our requests in consideration.

Full name needed to be added to list so: Christian UzzzY DeSalva
 
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