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    Post Smilgs hunting log - 2016 and beyond

    Hello all.

    After the v2012 log expired on editing, took a bit of a break posting. Now restarting with a revamp.
    The goal of this thread is still to show what you can profit/lose by hunting in Entropia.



    Smilgs is a lvl 123 swordsman hit, lvl 156 swordsman dmg, lvl 176 laser sniper, 222 laser dmg, 201 laser pistoler, 113 evader, 99 dodger, 101 paramedic, 129 pyro dmg, 84 pyro hit, 466hp, lvl 117 average prof-standing hunter for now. Lvl 83 animal, 71 mutant and 63 robot looter.

    909k total skills by MA ingame count, all (commonly) known unlocks (46) done, 154 of 164 skills 2k+, 4 of them 20k+ and 24 of them 10k+
    Using:
    • aimk2 t9 + h204 - mostly no enhancers
    • unique reaper's blade (close dmg t8) + trauma 10 amp - mostly no enhancers
    • arsonistic chip 4 fen (dmg over time T2) + amp + all dmg enhancers
    • chronicle ten/mod viceroy/naked/knight/rascal as armor, 5b/6a plates - mostly no enhancers
    • buffs - ares perfected ring, summer ring 2018, ruby kanin
    • buffs - divine intervention chip I, hp coat


    Will post an update end of each month on actual run results (Google Docs) and also the total.
    When relevant, will add my crafting (avg lvl 49) / resource collecting (avg lvl 58) results as well.

    I try to follow these simple rules
    1. avoiding taxes to be sure or if there is a great taxback
    2. no/little MU input, as much as possible MU output
    3. max defense costs in terms of armor as of changes to return vs. decay
    4. no extra paid services like healer - with some exceptions
    5. stacking, avoid selling during price curve is @ lowest points for items that have a possible price peak
    6. participating in MA events where I think have a chance
    7. measuring my average return, if decent efficiency, dpp and items and your tt return < 98% for a longer period of time - something is off, or MA changed rules


    P.S.
    The math of real return vs. effort is pretty straightforward.
    1) Since my return, ~8 years ago around 38400 hours have been spent in hunting (not counting the other related activities like selling loot etc. lets just disregard them). I doubt anyone close to Europe would be spending time for less than 4$ per hour which is already very low. That means ~145k$ spent on hunting activity, with ~42k$ return. Balance -103k$
    2) Approximately same kind of situation spent money wise, with ~ 1.72M PED spent (172k$), best case selling all equipment would be ~70k usd back
    Balance -102k$

    Considering the money and time spent, it has been an expensive hobby at this level and with my behavior so far, and shit-loads of time spent to maintain it.

    P.S.2
    I might sound bitter and quite often and not too trustful in MA, well it has some grounds:

    • investing in overall skills, efficiency and looter skills have not had the promised effect on my tt returns, they are most often in the good old 95% range
    • after buying both of the unique Osseocollum land areas end of 2013 - one with 2x dna small maturity and one with 1x dna big maturity, with the higher maturities having a different (better) loot composition and decent MU overall, ~1 year later MA redesigned the loot tables making all the maturities loot the same + lowering MU for osseos by changing what can be looted, dropping the worth of the investment a lot with immediate effect
    • I went on to collect TEN Chronicle armor set in 2013 and spent ~80k peds for the 6 parts, just to see the last part event for it never happen, and has not happened to date still even though by now even FEN event is over, support is radio silent on it
    • ~6 months after I bought the top Merry x-mas gun with buff effects (Viridian) spending 90k in purchase and tiers to T9, there was a decision to nullify crit buff effects on return which left me with a highly undesirable weapon
    • ~1 year after I acquired the soulbound Viceroy armor set for ~18k peds, there was a decision to nullify crit buff effects on return which left me with a virtually useless expensive soulbound armor
    • I bought the most expensive amp (2 in existence) for my unique sword, Trauma 10 amplifier March 2018 - 9 months later 13 FEN Trauma 10 amplifiers dropped which were all superior to mine
    Last edited by girtsn; 05-20-2019 at 18:31. Reason: update eq and skills
    check out Smilgs hunting log and Smilgs coloring, texturing, beauty service
    high efficiency stuff and looter skills seem to work again for me as of 2019

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    Code:
    Total from 01.01.2011 = +420,718 PED hunting, -2,389 PED in mining and -25,751 PED in crafting
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    May 2019 = 0 hunting so far
    April 2019 = +1,997 hunting (99.16% tt)
    March 2019 = -3,992 hunting (96.21% tt)
    February 2019 = +45,591 hunting (99.73% tt)
    January 2019 = +3837 hunting (98.95% tt)
    December 2018 = +757 hunting (93.94% tt)
    November 2018 = +3451 hunting (95.84% tt)
    October 2018 = +2060 hunting (95.00% tt)
    September 2018 = +608 hunting (95.39% tt)
    August 2018 = -546 hunting (95.77% tt)
    July 2018 = +2,136 hunting (95.44% tt)
    June 2018 = +10,543 hunting (99.45% tt)
    May 2018 = +9,712 hunting (101.06% tt)
    April 2018 = +4,356 hunting (98.24% tt)
    March 2018 = +21,434 hunting (102.45% tt)
    February 2018 = -1,329 hunting (97.04% tt)
    January 2018 = -1,045 hunting (96.09% tt)
    December 2017 = -4,942 hunting (91.84% tt)
    November 2017 = -16,328 hunting (94.52% tt)
    October 2017 = -4,312 hunting (95.32% tt)
    September 2017 = -10,944 hunting (95.05% tt)
    August 2017 = -27,335 hunting (91.09% tt)
    July 2017 = -11,929 hunting (94.31% tt)
    June 2017 = -581 hunting (97.63% tt)
    May 2017 = -7,836 hunting (96.8% tt)
    April 2017 = +18,897 hunting (105.70% tt)
    March 2017 = -15,525 hunting (92.97% tt)
    February 2017 = -10,403 hunting (95.77% tt)
    January 2017 = -16,649 hunting (93.22% tt)
    December 2016 = -13,490 hunting (94.40% tt)
    November 2016 = -15,825 hunting (92.35% tt)
    October 2016 = -3,644 hunting (97.35% tt)
    September 2016 = -4,840 hunting (95.84% tt)
    August 2016 = +1,420 hunting (95.75% tt)
    July 2016 = +29,705 hunting (97.44% tt) - 28.2k MU from 2015 migration
    June 2016 = +6,319 hunting (100.83% tt)
    May 2016 = +1,035 hunting (99.86% tt)
    April 2016 = -15,550 hunting (92.90% tt)
    March 2016 = +16,022 hunting (105.98% tt)
    February 2016 = +42,978 hunting (117.72% tt)
    January 2016 = -2,475 hunting (95.26% tt)
    December 2015 = +31,227 hunting (111.59% tt)
    November 2015 = +11,070 hunting (100.62% tt)
    October 2015 = +14,711 hunting (104.03% tt)
    September 2015 = +8,092 hunting (101.25% tt)
    August 2015 = +33,107 hunting (108.86% tt)
    July 2015 = +10,836 hunting (95.54% tt)
    June 2015 = +50,839 hunting (111.71% tt)
    May 2015 = +32,665 hunting (111.87% tt)
    April 2015 = +10,023 hunting (101.21% tt)
    March 2015 = -203 hunting (98.20% tt)
    February 2015 = +17,680 hunting (105.86% tt), +1,681 crafting (100.36% tt)
    January 2015 = +18,928 hunting (103.47% tt), -27,432 crafting (94.09% tt)
    December 2014 = +11,218 hunting (97.17% tt)
    November 2014 = -14,404 hunting (93.72% tt)
    October 2014 = -17,135 hunting (89.89% tt)
    September 2014 = +813 hunting (92.85% tt)
    August 2014 = +74,900 hunting (107.55% tt)
    July 2014 = +6,056 hunting (99.18% tt)
    June 2014 = +15,399 hunting (102.88% tt)
    May 2014 = +19,634 hunting (103.83% tt)
    April 2014 = +19,585 hunting (104.09% tt)
    March 2014 = +105,420 hunting (140.81% tt)
    February 2014 = -8,998 hunting (92.29% tt)
    January 2014 = -7,014 hunting (91.61% tt)
    December 2013 = -12,255 hunting (90.93% tt)
    November 2013 = -17,853 hunting (88.97% tt)
    October 2013 = +11,160 hunting (97.91% tt)
    September 2013 = +36,445 hunting (99.40% tt)
    August 2013 = +25,470 hunting (101.64% tt)
    July 2013 = +30,997 hunting (92.31% tt)
    June 2013 = +41 hunting (93.64% tt)
    May 2013 = +4,902 hunting (100.05% tt)
    April 2013 = +10,538 hunting (93.78% tt)
    March 2013 = -6,242 hunting (92.73% tt)
    February 2013 = -118 hunting (94.24% tt)
    January 2013 = -8,588 hunting (90.34% tt)
    December 2012 = +1,961 hunting (90.07% tt)
    November 2012 = -10,491 hunting (92.62% tt)
    October 2012 = +9,190 hunting (90.59% tt), -2,168 mining
    September 2012 = -13,739 hunting, -168 mining
    August 2012 = -2,668 hunting, -1,043 mining
    July 2012 = +35,000 hunting, -2,932 mining
    June 2012 = +2,819 hunting, -1,006 mining
    May 2012 = -12,736 hunting, +2,869 mining
    April 2012 = -6,646 hunting, +1,116 mining
    March 2012 = -20,411 hunting, -2,894 mining
    February 2012 = -6,857 hunting
    January 2012 = +13,181 hunting
    December 2011 = +31,659 hunting
    November 2011 = -19,482 hunting
    October 2011 = -6,832 hunting
    September 2011 = -28,388 hunting
    August 2011 = -3,306 hunting
    July 2011 = -24,835 hunting
    June 2011 = -14,879 hunting
    May 2011 = -8,909 hunting
    April 2011 = -6,624 hunting
    March 2011 = -14,780 hunting
    February 2011 = -13,914 hunting
    January 2011 = -9,879 hunting
    Hunting results per day in Google Docs

    The runs are captured by TT + writing down MU when stuff sells.
    "Iron-shit" includes all the mobs that are basically only grind-ed for attributes or skills. I call them iron-shit missions regardless if they are located in Arkadia/Rocktropia/Calypso/wherever.
    Last edited by girtsn; 05-01-2019 at 18:12. Reason: April 2019
    check out Smilgs hunting log and Smilgs coloring, texturing, beauty service
    high efficiency stuff and looter skills seem to work again for me as of 2019

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    Subbed, GL m8!

    Any particular reason you appear to hunt osseo exclusively?

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    Multiple in fact
    * own 2 LA's of them, so hunting there helps to promote
    * return is really good
    * like the mob for its slowness, size and no regen
    * stalkers hit me a lot which helps to get evader up
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    Any particular reason you appear to hunt osseo exclusively?
    check out Smilgs hunting log and Smilgs coloring, texturing, beauty service
    high efficiency stuff and looter skills seem to work again for me as of 2019

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    Subbed, GL m8!

    Any particular reason you appear to hunt osseo exclusively?
    He has 2 osseo LAs :p

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    first update, quite a red one

    April 2016 = -15,550 hunting (92.90% tt)

    only big change, tried accuracy enhancers for a full month. I know it sounds crazy knowing that MU to make them with dianthus over 200% is 750% or so

    but if calculating dpp mathematically (proven by real measurements), it actually is same dpp as without the enhancers on mm + my buffs, so in theory more kills for the same cost

    looking at the result:
    • well yet another case to say that dpp calculations do not directly relate to returns
    • also weird, it coincided to be first month that I remember in a long time without bigger hofs (2k+) - effect of enhancers? does MA algorithm take into account only enhancer tt and think that I'm profitting crazy amounts?


    cannot know, but for now it seems this experiment is to be considered failure and will be going back to un-enhanced main gun for daily hunts as soon as running out of enhancers
    check out Smilgs hunting log and Smilgs coloring, texturing, beauty service
    high efficiency stuff and looter skills seem to work again for me as of 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by girtsn View Post
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    Multiple in fact
    * own 2 LA's of them, so hunting there helps to promote
    * return is really good
    * like the mob for its slowness, size and no regen
    * stalkers hit me a lot which helps to get evader up
    Thanks. Just curious what MU you're chasing on them, my guess is ESIs mainly

    I know it sounds crazy knowing that MU to make them with dianthus over 200% is 750%
    Thank you on behalf of all us miners for keeping Dianthus MU up

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    subbing this thread - one day maybe i can be uber and not noober
    - amazing investment btw holy smokes

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