FYI: Smilgs hunting log - 2016 and beyond

Please consider shooting more before starting to explain things to others, please.

Well I am doing a test on small mobs since some months ago, even though I don't spend many peds per day, and I rarely global (this is the reason why you wrote that), I am not losing.
 
Well I am doing a test on small mobs since some months ago, even though I don't spend many peds per day, and I rarely global (this is the reason why you wrote that), I am not losing.


bigPaul is right,


bigPauls samples are more accurate than smilgs ...


:laugh:
 
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bigPaul is right,


bigPauls samples are more accurate than smilgs ...


:laugh:

You are both wrong.. each mob hp & stats has a (slightly) diff loot pattern.
 
still working

June 2018 = +10,543 hunting (99.45% tt)
 
still working

June 2018 = +10,543 hunting (99.45% tt)

Sure is when you hit big:
Muluk-Hir Clan Warlord Elite 12 423 PED Sat, 16 Jun 2018 04:10:29

Without this day in your log, you would have been down:
6/16/2018 9:02:18
How big the run (peds on bullets):3000
Return in TT (must enter always):15644
Repair TT (must enter always):1213
What was the run on (mob):Mulmun
 
Sure is when you hit big:
Muluk-Hir Clan Warlord Elite 12 423 PED Sat, 16 Jun 2018 04:10:29

Without this day in your log, you would have been down:
6/16/2018 9:02:18
How big the run (peds on bullets):3000
Return in TT (must enter always):15644
Repair TT (must enter always):1213
What was the run on (mob):Mulmun

Its a mob were your bound to hof and need sizable hofs to grind. Naturaly it comes with a higher stake.
Its more intresting too see TT on a"standard" mobs like previous month but migration will also be a cool stat.
 
Sure is when you hit big:
Muluk-Hir Clan Warlord Elite 12 423 PED Sat, 16 Jun 2018 04:10:29

Without this day in your log, you would have been down:
6/16/2018 9:02:18
How big the run (peds on bullets):3000
Return in TT (must enter always):15644
Repair TT (must enter always):1213
What was the run on (mob):Mulmun

And it still counts.
 
Sure is when you hit big:
Muluk-Hir Clan Warlord Elite 12 423 PED Sat, 16 Jun 2018 04:10:29

Without this day in your log, you would have been down:
6/16/2018 9:02:18
How big the run (peds on bullets):3000
Return in TT (must enter always):15644
Repair TT (must enter always):1213
What was the run on (mob):Mulmun

Sadly, your assertion is an irrelevant one. That's like saying.. if you didn't wake up, you would still be sleeping. That's the thing about data points. You cannot make any assertions about his data without this one large data point because it exists and it is likely existing because of balancing mechanisms. Law of large numbers is a fickle theorem.
 
And it still counts.

It sure does, i didn't dispute that. I just pointed out the fact that without a large hit, it would not look as good as it does. Those hits can be just as much luck as the system balancing you out. You can't really say either way so just noting as to the reason he was up that month.
 
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It sure does, i didn't dispute that. I just pointed out the fact that without a large hit, it would not look as good as it does. Those hits can be just as much luck as the system balancing you out. You can't really say either way so just noting as to the reason he was up that month.

You hunt enough, and he does, you are going to get those big hits, it's just a normal part of the tt return.
 
3 in a row. I guess the new weapons and looting skill is helping. Either way good job. And let’s see if you can make 4 in a row :)

Also i like the fact that you are under 100% tt return. Maybe they have finally fixed the game and we can start to trend up. Your skills and weapon choices keep you at 99%+ means u can come out ahead and more importantly ma is coming out ahead as well.

Also gives back to some hope that skill matters again.

Edit: apparently that was 4 in a row. Let’s see if you can make it 5 haaha
 
Eomons this and last migration suck, max hof got last month was like 1x 2k hunting stalkers, prowlers, old alphas and no items to speak of some 93% tt return on them. Will try LT for August see how that goes.
July 2018 = +2,136 hunting (95.44% tt)
 
"it would seem that level 1 to level 100 in the looter profession, relevant to the creature you are hunting, does represent a 7% increase in TT return, similar to efficiency"

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...ot-just-Cost&p=3651652&viewfull=1#post3651652

I don't believe that MA take bank loan to give it as 7% loot increase to players.
Introduction of looter profession i see like a nerf where gameplay became more expensive till you max all looter related skills and become efficient as you were before nerf.
Once average player population max it then they will probably invent new skill set and make gameplay more expensive again.
 
Eomons this and last migration suck, max hof got last month was like 1x 2k hunting stalkers, prowlers, old alphas and no items to speak of some 93% tt return on them. Will try LT for August see how that goes.
July 2018 = +2,136 hunting (95.44% tt)


they sucked?? all I see is another month in the green :) gj and I cant remember now if this is like 5 or 6 or 7 straight months now trending in the right direction :)
 
and another little side note, I wish you luck on LT, but I would personally suggest to stay away from them as I could not find one lick of mu to loo from them. so might not be to good. I would keep an eye on your returns.
 
Eomons this and last migration suck, max hof got last month was like 1x 2k hunting stalkers, prowlers, old alphas and no items to speak of some 93% tt return on them. Will try LT for August see how that goes.
July 2018 = +2,136 hunting (95.44% tt)

Lots of MU from boxes and ESI I'm guessing - if you're green, you survived another month.
Re-evaluate mob selection and keep shooting!
 
Well longtooths sucked as well (though still higher tt return than eomons 94.54%), will see how it goes outside of events.

August 2018 = -546 hunting (95.77% tt)

Eomons this and last migration suck, max hof got last month was like 1x 2k hunting stalkers, prowlers, old alphas and no items to speak of some 93% tt return on them. Will try LT for August see how that goes.
July 2018 = +2,136 hunting (95.44% tt)
 
Well longtooths sucked as well (though still higher tt return than eomons 94.54%), will see how it goes outside of events.

August 2018 = -546 hunting (95.77% tt)

4%+ mu is good
 
Seems that whatever effect there was from efficiency / looter skills is gone (perhaps top players chipped / skilled a lot more so I got bypassed and only top benefits?), down to 95% which was the normal before my optimistic plus wave March to June

September 2018 = +608 hunting (95.39% tt)
 
Seems that whatever effect there was from efficiency / looter skills is gone (perhaps top players chipped / skilled a lot more so I got bypassed and only top benefits?), down to 95% which was the normal before my optimistic plus wave March to June

September 2018 = +608 hunting (95.39% tt)

- a good part of your hunt is on a taxed LA, correct?
- what you kill also influences the % a lot so not only you need to find a good % mob, but also a mob with decent MU and maybe with mission. super easy, right? :laugh:
 
Indeed quite some of September was Atraxes and Formics on Divinities and Captain Jack's where I managed to win some prizes (included in tracked returns) and complete missions thus month was still in green.
But I never saw proportional relation between reasonable tax (4% or below) and untaxed lands related to tt return - not saying that it is not less, just does not seem minus tax% less. Never completed a clean 4% vs 0% month experiment while i had the LAs to do so only 4% vs 10% which was indeed a 6% drop.
And the return to 95% tt trend started with 2 months of Eomons and LT which is not a taxed land thus my conclusion that the better times are over again for Smilgs.
- a good part of your hunt is on a taxed LA, correct?
- what you kill also influences the % a lot so not only you need to find a good % mob, but also a mob with decent MU and maybe with mission. super easy, right? :laugh:
 
Seems that whatever effect there was from efficiency / looter skills is gone (perhaps top players chipped / skilled a lot more so I got bypassed and only top benefits?), down to 95% which was the normal before my optimistic plus wave March to June

September 2018 = +608 hunting (95.39% tt)

Thanks as always for the info/data.

I don't feel so bad now - with your gear/skills and you are only pulling 95% TT... Now I don't feel so bad doing 91-92% these last few months with pretty good gear.

~4.6% MU = :eyecrazy::eyecrazy: --> tell me your secrets!

Better times are over for the Norian as well!
 
Indeed quite some of September was Atraxes and Formics on Divinities and Captain Jack's where I managed to win some prizes (included in tracked returns) and complete missions thus month was still in green.
But I never saw proportional relation between reasonable tax (4% or below) and untaxed lands related to tt return - not saying that it is not less, just does not seem minus tax% less. Never completed a clean 4% vs 0% month experiment while i had the LAs to do so only 4% vs 10% which was indeed a 6% drop.
And the return to 95% tt trend started with 2 months of Eomons and LT which is not a taxed land thus my conclusion that the better times are over again for Smilgs.

If you track separately your taxed return versus your untaxed return, you can just divide your taxed return by the (100-x)% and get what your pre-tax return would be, then add it to your untaxed return total...

You can't conflate untaxed and taxed returns. Your return % is just not accurate if you do this. MA has clearly stated previously that taxes work simply as a flat take of your return to the LA owner. No experiment necessary, just add this extra step to your return calculations, then you'll be fine.

Also, it is useful to provide a return over all time % also. We'd like to see your average over the volatile periods. I suspect you are still above 98% if you do both of these things I mentioned.
 
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MA has clearly stated previously that taxes work simply as a flat take of your return to the LA owner.
As mentioned, my data does not support this claim - and the 2 months on eomon and longtooth were not taxed. The trendline is pretty clear on it, I am back to 95% tt whatever the reason :(

2018-09-tt-trendline.jpg
 
I am running at 89% in last months. Taking into account that my looter (37) level and gun's efficiency (54.6) should produce -6% compared to you, the 95% seems to be MA's aim for now.... until moon deeds are paid off? :scratch2:
 
October 2018 = +2060 hunting (95.00% tt)

fortunately quite some MU from those FEN tokens

for some chosen getting high efficiency stuff and looter skills seem to work longterm - and some can go f... themselves. as usual
 
Sure is when you hit big:
Muluk-Hir Clan Warlord Elite 12 423 PED Sat, 16 Jun 2018 04:10:29
Without this day in your log, you would have been down:
You were / are right, high multipliers are needed to get to the MA promised land of high tt.

Below approximately same activity hunters, 9 of them and their 1000+ hofs back to August.
I have never experienced more than 2 months of such hof drought before.
This is not complaining about them getting the loots they all deserved them due to high activity.
You can say that I am hunting kerbs but then I am not.

Girts Smilgs Niedra count 6 sum 13821
- Feffox Stalker 1 707 PED Tue, 04 Dec 2018 18:29:29
- Araneatrox Young Elite 2 870 PED Mon, 19 Nov 2018 08:47:56
- Atrax Prowler 1 011 PED Sun, 16 Sep 2018 05:36:15
- Warrior Exterminator 2 847 PED Tue, 28 Aug 2018 04:34:26
- Feffox Dominant 4 207 PED Mon, 20 Aug 2018 15:29:36
- Longtooth Prowler 1 179 PED Thu, 02 Aug 2018 16:33:13

mg Joda VVV VVV count 15 sum 57797
- Big Bulk Gen 07 1 025 PED Sat, 08 Dec 2018 07:34:51
- Araneatrox Young Elite 10 651 PED Wed, 28 Nov 2018 14:57:16
- Dire Hound 1 275 PED Sun, 04 Nov 2018 01:41:05
- Araneatrox Young 1 248 PED Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:12:05
- Atrox Dominant 1 114 PED Sat, 13 Oct 2018 19:39:53
- Osseocollum Prowler 1 088 PED Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:38:53
- Warrior Commander 010011 4 859 PED Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:59:33
- Disecter, Brood of All 8 829 PED Sat, 25 Aug 2018 10:25:41
- Aurli Watcher 2 589 PED Sat, 25 Aug 2018 09:35:00
- Vanguard Communicator 4 726 PED Fri, 17 Aug 2018 03:07:11
- Vanguard Coordinator 1 086 PED Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:37:10
- Legionnaire Gen 01 2 443 PED Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:14:25
- Eomon Provider 1 549 PED Fri, 10 Aug 2018 14:33:25
- Eomon Old 1 313 PED Fri, 10 Aug 2018 05:13:39
- Eomon Stalker 14 002 PED Fri, 10 Aug 2018 03:52:17

Isfin Failivrin Meleth count 15 sum 49683
- Mayhem Araneatrox (FFA 5) 2 754 PED Fri, 14 Dec 2018 11:23:23
- Korwil Old Alpha 3 870 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 09:05:46
- Korwil Old 1 676 PED Thu, 13 Dec 2018 07:41:52
- Korwil Mature 1 113 PED Tue, 04 Dec 2018 13:45:16
- Scoria Prowler 1 064 PED Mon, 26 Nov 2018 07:25:24
- Mutated Beladoth Alpha 10 399 PED Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:53:51
- Annihilation Zombie 10 1 746 PED Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:00:35
- Annihilation Zombie 10 7 493 PED Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:35:40
- Annihilation Zombie 10 2 004 PED Sun, 04 Nov 2018 11:26:14
- Araneatrox Young 1 376 PED Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:27:09
- Feffox Stalker 2 114 PED Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:52:04
- Disecter, Brood of Unruly 1 614 PED Mon, 01 Oct 2018 09:35:38
- Eomon Old 6 814 PED Fri, 10 Aug 2018 23:08:20
- Eomon Old 1 673 PED Wed, 08 Aug 2018 10:29:49
- Eomon Young 3 973 PED Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:46:38

Sir Azzah Neu count 9 sum 38430
- Araneatrox Young 7 281 PED Sun, 18 Nov 2018 05:48:27
- Annihilation Zombie 10 1 480 PED Sun, 04 Nov 2018 02:01:50
- Mulciber 1 010 PED Sun, 28 Oct 2018 01:40:19
- Feffox Stalker 2 673 PED Tue, 16 Oct 2018 03:20:37
- Warlock Gen 07 1 077 PED Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:53:40
- Warrior Elite 3 091 PED Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:15:01
- Mulciber 1 693 PED Sat, 06 Oct 2018 05:23:52
- Eomon Old 1 465 PED Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:32:31
- Eomon Stalker 18 660 PED Mon, 06 Aug 2018 01:27:19

Gaina Messi91 Cristi count 16 sum 56549
- Agrash 2 169 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:02:11
- Agrash 2 452 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:27:52
- Ludark 1 637 PED Sun, 16 Dec 2018 15:48:03
- Leech of Devastation, Brood of Unruly 5 022 PED Thu, 29 Nov 2018 04:26:43
- Araneatrox Young Elite 9 204 PED Tue, 27 Nov 2018 00:36:19
- Annihilation Zombie 10 5 747 PED Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:09:01
- Kreltin Prowler 1 275 PED Sun, 28 Oct 2018 01:29:56
- Disecter, Brood of All 1 993 PED Fri, 26 Oct 2018 01:07:40
- Kreltin Old Alpha 4 028 PED Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:29:18
- Feffox Alpha 1 328 PED Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:36:41
- Lairkeeper, Brood of All 3 473 PED Fri, 19 Oct 2018 02:33:34
- Aurli Hunter 6 189 PED Sun, 14 Oct 2018 02:05:56
- Hatching Guard, Brood of All 8 485 PED Mon, 17 Sep 2018 21:47:15
- Eomon Alpha 1 212 PED Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:48:28
- Eomon Alpha 1 053 PED Sat, 04 Aug 2018 16:19:43
- Eomon Alpha 1 282 PED Thu, 02 Aug 2018 00:24:59

Mathilda nukegirl Chei count 10 sum 25917
- Annihilation Zombie 10 2 144 PED Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:26:55
- Leech of Devastation, Brood of Warren 2 211 PED Sat, 27 Oct 2018 13:21:10
- Sabakuma Broodmother Queen 2 163 PED Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:15:15
- Sabakuma Broodmother Stalker 1 593 PED Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:01:40
- Sabakuma Broodmother Slayer 1 323 PED Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:28:52
- Sabakuma Broodmother Queen 6 942 PED Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:54:04
- Sabakuma Broodmother Slayer 1 041 PED Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:39:00
- Leech of Devastation, Brood of Dotty 1 517 PED Sun, 09 Sep 2018 16:40:13
- Hatchling, Brood of Dotty 5 619 PED Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:30:38
- Lairkeeper, Brood of Dotty 1 364 PED Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:05:59

Bori Redsky Keystone count 9 sum 56143
- Survival Mindless One 10 1 243 PED Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:47:49
- Annihilation Zombie 10 1 872 PED Thu, 01 Nov 2018 23:53:17
- Sabakuma Broodmother Marauder 1 695 PED Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:13:44
- The Eviscerator 1 050 PED Fri, 05 Oct 2018 08:47:31
- The Eviscerator 1 047 PED Thu, 27 Sep 2018 08:22:45
- Mulciber 2 631 PED Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:52:01
- The Eviscerator 23 427 PED Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:40:04
- The Eviscerator 1 082 PED Sun, 16 Sep 2018 12:49:19
- The Eviscerator 22 096 PED Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:59:21

Daniel DannyO Ocean count 14 sum 53778
- Yulebot (FFA 5) 7 791 PED Mon, 17 Dec 2018 01:25:19
- Smuggler Badger MK3 1 348 PED Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:50:20
- Big Bulk Gen 10 1 591 PED Fri, 07 Dec 2018 23:41:13
- Big Bulk Gen 10 1 057 PED Tue, 04 Dec 2018 22:07:27
- Big Bulk Gen 10 1 660 PED Mon, 26 Nov 2018 00:27:19
- Big Bulk Gen 10 1 532 PED Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:21:37
- Drone Elite 21 978 PED Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:45:40
- Drone Elite 1 085 PED Wed, 07 Nov 2018 20:57:18
- Feffox Prowler 1 577 PED Thu, 01 Nov 2018 22:21:18
- Annihilation Zombie 10 2 153 PED Thu, 01 Nov 2018 07:47:54
- Araneatrox Young Elite 2 797 PED Sun, 28 Oct 2018 08:33:23
- Teladon Prowler 4 743 PED Fri, 19 Oct 2018 19:43:12
- IFN Sergeant Major 1 884 PED Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:59:08
- GMC 03 Gamma Gen05 2 582 PED Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:38:15

The Infamous Serenity count 10 sum 36376
- Mayhem Kerberos (FFA 3) 1 234 PED Fri, 14 Dec 2018 11:35:59
- Annihilation Zombie 09 1 715 PED Sat, 10 Nov 2018 00:03:28
- Annihilation Zombie 09 1 663 PED Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:33:17
- Annihilation Zombie 09 6 213 PED Sun, 04 Nov 2018 01:29:18
- Osseocollum Stalker 1 123 PED Mon, 15 Oct 2018 16:37:51
- Osseocollum Prowler 1 141 PED Tue, 02 Oct 2018 20:02:53
- Osseocollum Stalker 1 067 PED Mon, 01 Oct 2018 16:28:46
- Osseocollum Stalker 1 041 PED Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:48:22
- Osseocollum Stalker 5 034 PED Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:35:44
- Warrior Commander 010011 16 145 PED Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:58:11

Janis janku Gaisonok count 11 sum 27521
- Atrax Stalker 1 761 PED Fri, 07 Dec 2018 21:49:15
- Dire Hound 1 399 PED Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:45:42
- Dire Hound 1 522 PED Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:51:16
- Annihilation Zombie 08 1 106 PED Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:35:34
- Warrior Elite 6 203 PED Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:58:10
- Warrior Elite 1 503 PED Mon, 29 Oct 2018 08:19:10
- Caperon Prowler 2 114 PED Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:32:00
- Kreltin Alpha 5 572 PED Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:11:48
- Warlock Gen 08 3 633 PED Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:00:30
- Leviathan Alpha 1 563 PED Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:36:20
- The Eviscerator 1 145 PED Wed, 05 Sep 2018 07:02:40

[tinfoil on]
It is almost like MA realized in July that unique sword changed owners to someone they don't like.
Which brings me back to assuming them having a blacklist...
[tinfoil off]

turnover and number of globals in last 90 days
Isfin Failivrin Meleth 236 716 PED 2 137
Gaina Messi91 Cristi 246 000 PED 2 007
Girts Smilgs Niedra 204 476 PED 1 862
Bori Redsky Keystone 295 130 PED 1 850
mg Joda VVV VVV 204 033 PED 1 558
Daniel DannyO Ocean 173 465 PED 1 391
Janis janku Gaisonok 166 864 PED 1 316
The Infamous Serenity 168 356 PED 1 248
Sir Azzah Neu 164 865 PED 1 240
Mathilda nukegirl Chei 142 423 PED 1 189
 
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putting these here as they are more relevant
Remember that time when you almost understood the game when you discovered boxes after 2 years? And pills?
Amazing how you continuously refer to things that never happened, was aware of the new features and still am. What I discovered back then was that some were recycling tens of thousands of $ buying boxes and then withdrawing $, rinse repeat - then I suggested in forum that it could be suspected as money laundering from the overseeing institutions and that maybe instead should be possible to buy everything for peds as this is referred to as an RCE. Which was the real final reason of throwing me out of hogs and realization what kind of assholes I had joined soc with (specifically kestukas and messi). Still not buying the boxes nor pills because I don't support RCE being deprecated as of favouring $ over peds and see it as a phony way to get $ in game.

You only care about your pocket and absolutely nothing else and you've been crying and whining on the forums for years and also taking time from support to to another check and another check on your account when obviously you adapt years after you should, proof that you bought the best ring there was only after it was obsolete, same goes for the rest of your equipment.
Mostly (link) I have asked for more transparency, accountability and fairness in the implementation of this place - not about my pocket. But surely that looks to have pissed the messi's, kestukas alinas and eveys over here a lot, obviously, especially balancing of the unlimited limited armor that you mention every time. Adapt ffs, it's over!
I did not use the buff exploits because I considered them unethical - so much for caring only about my pocket.

And please stop lying - I always tried to adapt, both getting the buff items (mk2, rings, viridian) and now efficiency (unique sword, aimk2), it is not my fault it only works for the chosen. I have also kept more peds in the game than most and sticking around when most of your bunch have quit / reduced their activity to events only. I bought the easter ring as fast as it became available for my budget.

And when people thought there was some Brain Oil left in your storage, you proved them wrong and swapped imk2 for aimk2.. thinking it was a smart move these days...
isn't aimk2 quite a unique gun with its 160 range, more dps and quite amazing dpp and efficiency? I switched because imk was not being used and not selling, and I thought that maybe part of the reason for my 95% tt could be the taggers - and besides I always wanted aimk2 just now it came into my reach
 
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