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Dishonorable Deal

I agree very dishonorable.

Almost as dishonorable as preying on new players ignorance to get items way under true market value. :wise:
 
Bit off topic, but to one of the posters in this thread i would love to quote bible:
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

I have no intention of naming you to anyone, but just remember how you did exactly the thing described in OP to me, and said "until trade is accepted ingame and accept button pressed on trade window, there is no obligation for seller to sell"
 
Since was a trade agreement from both of you, it is dishonorable as you said!
But that's how some people are and act, we can't change it. Most young people don't have such ethics barriers. I believe this is a kid or "kid in mind".
 
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Good god, Mercury, you upped your usual level of patheticness with this shiner of a thread LOL...

Niglet is like Spaz - its only offensive if you are from a culture that glorifies in the distaste of certain words. We used Spaz (which basically means 'a klutz') all the time in South Africa, not knowing it was highly offensive a term in the UK. I won't stop using the word Spaz just because it offends some other culture that has nothing to do with the language I use and the intent behind it. Here's another stupid American trying to dictate how the rest of the world should use language based on his leftist culture in sinking America. Blow me...

You complaining about another avatar's name is such a big fucking irony!!! Do you remember when you called yourself JENNA PORNSTAR JAMESON (what a classy example of pure virtue you are)? For those not in the know, Jenna Jameson was a prolific pornstar in the western porn industry. There is not a thing she wouldn't do (and that was before she even signed the contract) - now ask yourself if we want people like that in our community, naming their virtual avatars after savory individuals like Miss Jameson.

About your 400 PED loss -- Hey it's not the traders fault you're too broke to pay in cold hard PED and had to resort to TTing your stash like a noob. That's on your own head. Next time click the depo button like the rest of us.

Why do you always bitch and moan when someone is a dick to you in trade, yet when you act like a dick to others in trade, all of a sudden you're just "negotiating like the Armenian capitalist that you claim to be?"

Sod off. What a laugh.
 
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Mad Mike Hoare said:
I have a turkish colleague at work with first name "Ufuk"....questions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufuk

Another friend of mine has the second (family) name "Bone" which is from the french "Bonne".

http://de.geneanet.org/search/?name=bone+bonne&ressource=arbre

Is that offensive too and should not be allowed on PCF or even in game? Would people give a shit if the name would not have been connected to a failed trade?

Have a great day!
MM
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An Asian business partner that I have is named Fuku. So no, I have no questions :)
 
there's indeed Dishonorable Deal's, there's also Dishonorable offers on items.

You might want to remember that.
 
Got me thinking re political correctness :)
fags, a slang word which has different meanings for US people & for UK & Australian people

likewise fanny and root.

and I believe for a South African to call someone a zot is an insult -but who would know that outside South Africa?

And I had never heard of the word niglet before.
Is it the sort of thing to go into psychic shock when one hears such a word?

Please lets make the Forums here a "Politically Correct" free zone
 
Having played the game for many years, I am sure we all have encountered deals where people are not honourable and good to their word.

Unfortunately all the time people look to buy high end items from unknown accounts, and all the time the forum and even MA allows multiple accounts, this will continue to happen.

All the comments about "its your fault to tt items to raise peds" people should take a step back, I would say that probably 99% of us have all done this at some stage. If the deal hadn't been agreed, then the items wouldn't have been tt'd.

It's frustrating as hell, when someone moves the goalposts or pulls out of a deal, but until the forum and MA grow a pair of balls, and do something about multiple accounts, it is a risk, we all the players have to endure.

From day one in the game, there has always been some dodgy and politically incorrect names..... what's funny to one person may offend another........but at the end of the day, it is a game isn't it..... so why take offence?
 
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Every time Star takes a hit, I just think to myself that it's karma, just trying to bring a little balance back to things the best that it can. You can't go around screwing other people then not expect to get some back once in a while. There's no place here for him to talk about honor.

Oh yeah, and I remember once trying to buy a club from him, and low and behold, the price changed after I had indicated that I would take it for buyout, because he "mis-judged the level of interest".

Have you forget about your own deeds all of a sudden Star? You're reputation for fairness and honesty isn't exactly the best around here. What goes around comes around, don't be such a whiner about it when you deserve what you get.
 
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bigdaddy trim said:
Yeah you was happy enough to make a deal with at start eventthough his name is so offensive to you. This thread seems like revenge smear campaign just because seller changed his mind.
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hah nice. you know, i just noticed your little flag there in your signature. the word INTEGRITY is MISSING. just sayin
 
JJO said:
Niglet is like Spaz - its only offensive if you are from a culture that glorifies in the distaste of certain words. We used Spaz (which basically means 'a klutz') all the time in South Africa, not knowing it was highly offensive a term in the UK. I won't stop using the word Spaz just because it offends some other culture that has nothing to do with the language I use and the intent behind it..
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Spaz comes from the Spastic Society which was a charity for people with cerebral palsy, but it was used derogatorily so much (eg. Spaz, spaker) that the charity changed it's name to Scope. Clearly British immigrants brought the word over and spread it among the South Africans. When you call someone a Spaz you're not saying they're a klutz you're saying they're disabled and insulting every disabled person by doing so.

It's not the word that's distasteful it's the meaning behind it, and the South African version of Spaz is pretty much the same as the UK version.

Now you have that knowledge, only a !!!! would continue to use the word knowing it's insulting those with cerebral palsy.
 
You know what can you do about your 400 peds in MU - try this

 
"Now you have that knowledge, only a !!!! would continue to use the word knowing it's insulting those with cerebral palsy"

Only a !!! would continue to make a big thing of it, and only a !!! would trumpet their opinions as fact.

Stop telling other people what to do Mr Politically Correct policeman
 
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Now you have that knowledge, only a !!!! would continue to use the word knowing it's insulting those with cerebral palsy.
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No I won't, because I won't bow down to marxism (political correctness) telling me what parts of a language I may and may not use because someone else decided to take offense. It is my right to cause offense (freedom of speech), and it's your right to complain, but what you will never do is silence me. I use all of the english language, not just the bits and pieces the feminists/marxists/college professors/minorities approve of!

And if someone with cerebral palsy finds it offensive (not some 'abled' person on their behalf), then clearly they've lost touch with reality. If someone is blind there is a word for it, if someone has cerebral palsy - THERE'S A WORD FOR IT. And there are derivative words we use in common language to suggest someone screwed up as only a disabled person could. E.g., "Are you blind, how could you not see the note on the fridge reminding you to feed the dog!?" Can blind people now also throw a fit because I called a seeing person 'blind'?

You can sod off along with your spaz buddy Jenna Pornstar Jameson... oh and BLOW ME!
 
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I have absolutely no problem with you using whatever words you want, I'm as much for freedom of speech as anyone. Politics has nothing to do with it, it's politeness.

If you want to insult an individual then go ahead, calling someone a !!!! or a dick insults nobody but the person you're talking to. But there are so many words in the English language that personally restricting yourself from using a couple that insult/offend large numbers of people isn't that much of a hardship.

But to be honest there's probably no point discussing this anymore. If you think calling someone blind is the same as calling someone a spaz then you probably think there's no difference between calling someone black and calling them a !!!!!!.
 
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I have absolutely no problem with you using whatever words you want, I'm as much for freedom of speech as anyone. Politics has nothing to do with it, it's politeness.
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No you are not for freedom of speech. People who truly are for freedom of speech do say "I'm absolutely for freedom of speech . . . but..." There is no but, it's either free speech or its controlled speech.

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But to be honest there's probably no point discussing this anymore. If you think calling someone blind is the same as calling someone a spaz then you probably think there's no difference between calling someone black and calling them a !!!!!!.
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This is how the Social Justice Warriors try to ban innocuous words, by stating that their unmitigated use is 'NO DIFFERENT' from calling a black person a !!!!!!. No doubt you'll bitch and moan that I wrote the word !!!!!!, because you can't understand the context of how the word is used and that I did not call anyone such.

It's on this same principle that we can't use the word 'mother' and 'father' in certain US universities and colleges, because someone said its just as bad as calling someone a racial slur! You 'polite' PC people always think that if someone uses a word, it must be in the worst possible reason. There is no distinction or subtlety with you people.

If you don't understand language, so be it, but I didn't spend my life mastering a language, just to have some hypersensitive people who can't understand context can tell me that saying spaz is just as bad as calling someone a racial slur.
 
It song like.. ahmm - google DJ Ubre and see what 30% of world population can think but less than 1% will think. (djubre, džubre, đubre, ђубре)
 
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slither said:
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Now you have that knowledge, only a !!!! would continue to use the word knowing it's insulting those with cerebral palsy.
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Well no, what your doing there is not right.

This is a question of cultural background. There is a global culture, which uses "universal" English (for the lack of a better term), and there's hundreds (very modest estimate, it's more likely the actual number is in thousands) of national subcultures for the people that are using English language for the global communication. On top of that we have numerous slangs within native English.

You are trying to enforce your national subculture on the whole world, all those other subcultures and slang-subcultures. This is like saying you have to memorize the whole Urban Dictionary before you are allowed to speak English. No we don't have to do that and no you can't demand we do. What your trying to do is called cultural chauvinism. In other words, you are out of touch with the reality in the world around you.

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Leaving aside the multi-cultural aspect, the strive towards an absolute purity in language is also a sign of being out of touch with reality. There's huge differences in income, between countries and inside each country. We have wars and religious conflicts that kill thousands as we speak. We have whole nations facing cultural and biological extinction in the close future. And we have diseases that could be cured if we spend a little bit more on the science and research. But instead of dealing with those problems we prefer to keep living in our comfortable bubbles and concentrate our energy on censoring the words in our language. Why? Because this is easy, it doesn't require any effort from our side.
 
No you are not for freedom of speech. People who truly are for freedom of speech do say "I'm absolutely for freedom of speech . . . but..." There is no but, it's either free speech or its controlled speech.
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I'm not trying to force you to control your speech, neither do I want governments to do it. I choose not to use some words but I still have total freedom of speech, I just realise that if I used those words I'd be a bit of a prick at best and a racist/bigot at worst.

Education is not restriction of freedom of speech, empathy is not restriction of speech. So if you want to continue using words that I don't agree with I won't stop you and I'll fight any law that tries to stop you, but I'm gonna keep arguing with you 'cause I'm right and you're wrong.
 
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KullXP said:
Defender of scammers. Well I guess someone has to step up and stand in there corner good work m8! Keep fighting the bad fight hang in there.
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Ahhh, the scam crusader chimes in. Jenna Pornstar Jameson didn't get scammed, he's just bitching that someone else wasted his time as he has often done in trade with others (when he's 'negotiating like an Armenian capitalist').

No doubt your unhinged mind that only sees scammers and scammer defenders wherever anyone does not toe your line of reasoning saw me as a scam supported - figures. You really are becoming a bit pathetic, you know. With rabid fools like you in charge of accusations and campaigns, I can only wonder how long it will be before I find myself the target of one of your "MOB/VIGILANTE JUSTICE" lynchings. "Hotarubi is disagreeing with my PASSION AGAIN. GET HER!!!!!!!!!!" But, oh well, I come from Africa ... so I know what a lynching looks like and that there is no point arguing in your own defense. The all-knowing sages HAVE SPOKEN!

Now run along and go lend people more money ... you know you won't have any scammer enemies to hunt down to satisfy your lust for violence unless you give them your stuff and help tempt them into transgression.

For every person you assist in scamming you (by lending them money when you know its a stupid thing to do), you should get half the fuel in the Caltex Canister poured on you... sicko.
 
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slither said:
I'm not trying to force you to control your speech, neither do I want governments to do it. I choose not to use some words but I still have total freedom of speech, I just realise that if I used those words I'd be a bit of a prick at best and a racist/bigot at worst.

Education is not restriction of freedom of speech, empathy is not restriction of speech. So if you want to continue using words that I don't agree with I won't stop you and I'll fight any law that tries to stop you, but I'm gonna keep arguing with you 'cause I'm right and you're wrong.
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Oh I don't mind your arguing with me, but you will only be right when you prove your argument with facts, not emotional pleas. Explain to me again why I must change my cultural use of English to accommodate another English-speaking culture's 21st-century hypersensitivity to certain words? Why must I ignore the dictionary meaning and adopt the pop culture defamatory connotation of a word that is perfectly usable IN ALL THE REST OF THE ENGLISH SPEAKING WORLD!!!!!!?????? That is how language ROTS! But we all know that dictators and despots always shackle language first, as it is the best means by which to shackle the minds of the people.

But even if you do win this argument between the two of us with some heretofore unseen factual presentation that destroys my argument outright, I just don't understand what you're arguing here? The main issue in this thread is Jenna Pornstar Jameson's "pot calling the kettle black" outburst. That much is expected of said entity ... who has a track record for calling foul on others for what he vehemently defends himself doing on occasion. I'm just one of a few voices on this forum with a good enough memory to call him out on his BS whenever it surfaces in the form of an ironic rant or proposal to be the game's president.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh waiiiiiiiiit... now I see which soc you are from! Somehow I doubt you arguing with me has anything to do with my choice in vernacular (which I've already explained by my own cultural affiliation with the English language). Are you trying to take the heat off your soc boss?

Well, I guess we can't all be impartial ... or factual...

Nevertheless, I look forward to your retort.
 
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Mercury said:
Isn't his NAME already offensive? I feel I had to post his forum name in order to show it? "Niglet" is a term used for an African American child. It is completely derogatory and uncalled for..
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I did not know that "Niglet" is a word. So i am not offended.
I think that's why MA made the eula 4.1 MindArk’s Proprietary Rights.

Just because it walks and talks like a duck. It"s realy not.
T
 
Of course it is an assumption that niglet would be offensive
 
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