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    hmm..in poker we had this saying "please dont educate the fish "

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicstorm View Post
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    (the TT return of your setup).
    i concur with all said with the exception of the one little tiny bit above.

    i dont think gear has anything to do with returns. only cycle rate and volume of loot actions (kills), matter when you need to get past the low points or as some call bad runs.
    "We sacrifice those who refuse to adapt; so that the rest of us can advance."

    "Those who don't have a clue, insist they know. Those who know, stay silent and let you learn on your own."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidxx View Post
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    i concur with all said with the exception of the one little tiny bit above.

    i dont think gear has anything to do with returns. only cycle rate and volume of loot actions (kills), matter when you need to get past the low points or as some call bad runs.
    when he used "tt return of your setup" i think he was referring to the fact that someone with imk2 maxed will have a different low-point TT return than someone with 2.8-2.9dpp cycling the same amount of ped.

    equipment and run size influence returns equally

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidxx View Post
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    i concur with all said with the exception of the one little tiny bit above.

    i dont think gear has anything to do with returns. only cycle rate and volume of loot actions (kills), matter when you need to get past the low points or as some call bad runs.
    It definitely does. Please review bond theory. You'll find that in the forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluske View Post
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    hmm..in poker we had this saying "please dont educate the fish "
    In this game, semi intelligent fish is better than stupid fish because the stupid ones will just quit and this game needs more players. At least in this case, there is some hope.

    This thread is mainly for people to point to instead of responding to the hundreds of cry threads. It's just wasted cycles. Let them read or gtfo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicstorm View Post
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    It definitely does. Please review bond theory. You'll find that in the forums.
    gonna need a link cuz im not finding any bond speaking about any loot logic that you mention. nothing since 2012 from any kind of bond regarding loot properties. and we all know loot had several subtle changes made to it over the years so anything older then 2014-15 is in most likeliness obsolete information and should not be in any way taken as anything remotely regarded as fact.
    "We sacrifice those who refuse to adapt; so that the rest of us can advance."

    "Those who don't have a clue, insist they know. Those who know, stay silent and let you learn on your own."

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    tell that to "helena and company" , gl with that tho #helenacrysince2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidxx View Post
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    gonna need a link cuz im not finding any bond speaking about any loot logic that you mention. nothing since 2012 from any kind of bond regarding loot properties. and we all know loot had several subtle changes made to it over the years so anything older then 2014-15 is in most likeliness obsolete information and should not be in any way taken as anything remotely regarded as fact.
    Bond theory is still true today. It does not give you any real advantages, but does help you understand the composition of loot by multipliers.

    You will find it here for the search impaired. You can play with what that thread means by the numbers and why short term hunts are bad here.
    Last edited by atomicstorm; 08-16-2016 at 02:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alina View Post
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    tell that to "helena and company" , gl with that tho #helenacrysince2006
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    Thanks for the share man. But do you think that the average joe will really read this? Kind of a bit advanced for the average guy. Also in Eu, you can't really predict anything besides the experince from previous runs and data collected in your case.

    Gl with the successful grinding

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    Great post atomicstorm!

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to atomicstorm again.

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