Stevie's Mining Log - The search for a surface Tower.

Extended the run to even out at 9k drops for the log so far. Had a little hof towards the end, thank god otherwise this one would've hurt. HR was terrible, had a 29 drop nrf streak. I am thinking about a location change, maybe head over to RT to do some exploring, undecided still. GL all.

Lots of fishing this last week, busy busy...got a run in finally, though. It was bad.

Did a dual drop exploratory run in a new area. The enmatter was pretty fruitless, but found a promising ore spot. I had a 301 ped lysterium which I'm still extracting lol, that's the fun part I guess, lol. Anyway, nearly 10k drops now, the loot pattern seems fairly stable still, a few loss runs for a profit run. I'm hoping it just takes the >90% back slowly like it has been rather than a nasty streak of thousands of drops in the 60-70% range like Rocket is suffering through. Maybe that will be the difference between indoor and surface mining. Well, on to the next one, ore only once again.

SpeedMetalVai said:

Did a dual drop exploratory run in a new area. The enmatter was pretty fruitless, but found a promising ore spot. I had a 301 ped lysterium which I'm still extracting lol, that's the fun part I guess, lol. Anyway, nearly 10k drops now, the loot pattern seems fairly stable still, a few loss runs for a profit run. I'm hoping it just takes the >90% back slowly like it has been rather than a nasty streak of thousands of drops in the 60-70% range like Rocket is suffering through. Maybe that will be the difference between indoor and surface mining. Well, on to the next one, ore only once again.

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Indoor vs. Outdoor it is indeed my friend.

Loot seems to either be frontloaded and then taken back later (rare), or you'll lose for a few runs and then hof (more common).

How the system tracks your total cycle and for how long it tracks it is a mystery. I find it hard to believe that the system will track returns for years.

Also.. i'm having some good success blending indoors and outdoors and hitting indoors at the right times. This will be my first, real, green run in a loooooong time.

Gz on finding a new spot!

Well, I wanted to hurry and wrap up this run, so I dropped my last 70 in HELL. As I expected, it sucked lol, could never expect anything much from a tiny stint like that. The hopeful spot I found the last run turned out to be bunk, bigger sample size determined that, too much lyst. I'm heading back to Caly and then over to Ark to do some hunting in the GR event. From there I'll probably do some dropping on the surface. For some reason I can never mine for long away from Caly, I can't figure out why...I guess it's just home calling. I often get bored and leave, it happened to me on RT this time, aside from the GR starting I was already ready to leave. So next update probably sometime after the GR event ends, gotta get those pills.

subscribing.. interesting.

Rocket192 said:

How the system tracks your total cycle and for how long it tracks it is a mystery. I find it hard to believe that the system will track returns for years.

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This for sure doesn't or I should've ATH'd along time ago. In my opinion seem to exist a sort of cooling off period/TT consumed which basically cancels all previous history. For good or bad. Something like initiating an activity (where initiating would also have a cooling on) in one of the main three professions sets open a function lootwise which then carry you through the multipliers in order to hit the function's set average. With the odd jackpot here and there.

So with your example, going with a finder and lvl5 amps triggers something if done for no idea how much? Dozens, hundreds of drops? So then you start the road of respective graph. If you interrupt and go unamped you have a short grace period (in which unamped behaves under same graph), if you continue unamped, it gets resetted to new parameters. If you stop too early, you lose, as per your observation that is usually is 4-5 bad runs and then 1-2 good, and way more rare the other way around.

Also probably a gigantic average of all these would result in same set intended average, so from system's perspective is equal if you switch often or camp something, is just a matter of micro (at the scale of the whole universe) management, that is of your own bankroll.

In other words, if for 10k ped spent today you get only 1k ped back, but for the next 2000 days for 10k ped spent you get back 9850, your return will tend to 98,5% without any kind of need to recover from the system the initial 9k ped lost. All these strictly tt ofc.

Entirely only my fabulations, I have absolutely no data to prove this and can't think of anything to do so, but is the only way in which I can explain former losses of mine which never got reimbursed. Strictly because I was doing everything correct, but for too small interval (like what would be now lvl7 amps with 1k ped or crafting at 4-5tt/click with 2k ped etc)

Just a mini run here, a little UG run to waste time. I finished my first 2k of GR. I'm done with this month's event and will be getting back to the log.

Wow underground has a bad hitrate ...

R4tt3xx said:

Wow underground has a bad hitrate ...

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5% is great.. i average 4.24% in AU..

4.24% hit rate and 72% TT return without multis indoors.

Slowly creeping back down on the normal TT% balance... I'm back on Caly now, this run I decided to try some enm, pretty boring, though. Next run back to ore.

I did a longer ore run. It pretty slow, I had an X near the end of the run, but not enough to recover. Decided to try a run in shinook area, it was a bit on the lower end in MU, no ruga to help. This run averaged out at 111.21% MU, estimated pretty conservatively.

It looks like the game has become a little more aggressive in its clawback. I've kinda been waiting for this to really find out what kind of average TT% I turn out at. I'll keep going, with MU I was down ~120 ped, so it's not horrible considering the low returns.

Another run in the bag. 2520 drops since last profit run and 97.84% TT overall. I am going to do 1 more exploratory run, but then probably get back to markup farming as best I can.

Another slow run, a little better TT% due to the higher HR, and two X size claims. Onwards we go.

And one more down. Run #40 overall stats aren't bad looking. I expect to keep losing for a few more runs until "90% TT Balance" drops closer to 0, maybe even lower. I did do quite a bit of hunting last week, so hopefully that doesn't skew the log much, returns were a little below average (92.82% TT). If I do HOF before the low point I suspect it's due to my losses in hunting. Gotta lose to win guys, GL!

I know one of these runs I'll break out of this losing streak. But for now, another loss run finished.

A nice run finally. 4k drops since the last +TT run, quite a boring streak. A little sooner than expected, 95% TT overall before hitting a hof and 2 globs this run. Probably another loss run or two to come, but hoping for an upward trend to follow. GL all, keep dropping!

Haha, interesting. I input my losses hunting onto my mining spreadsheet, came out being -275 from 90% TT balance, 88.97%. That is the range I expected payback to occur. So maybe activities do combine? Anyway, I just thought it would be interesting to check that. This run was a pretty boring one again, had a global and decent HR so TT wasn't terrible. My current spot has about played out though so I'll be changing it up next run.

Well, I tried a short 330 drop enm run, but I just can't seem to get into it. Gonna head toward RT to try it there for awhile.

After my loss with lv5s or bigger amps...Yestrerday I used my last bit of peds for one unamped run, 450 PED for 300 dual drops. In this run I got a XV iron(130+), a XVII cald(450+) and a XX narc(860+).......where is my amp when need it...like always..
So may be change your amps (try lv13s)? probably bring you something different.

anyway, GL on RT

Grats on your hofs big. Yea, figures the multipliers pop up with non-amped, lol. Well average mu here isn't much better than were I was, and with .01 stones here its not overly enjoyable. I'll be heading back to Caly once again to wait out the last few days before GR event 2/7.

Well, I did a Hell run while I wait for tomorrow's flight. Surprising results I came out only slightly down, the HR was bad the first 330 drops, 52% TT and 4.2% hr. I decided to extend the run at that point to 660 drops. No globals, and the biggest claim was XI. 108.17% ave MU. That's the last of my mining on RT this time, gonna just chill until the flight.

Been a bit inactive lately, went to Ark after my last log update for the GR event, delays happened, so I just chilled. I think I'm done with the event for this month so I'll start mining again. Did a short 300 drop Treasure run in UG before I catch the flight back to Caly tomorrow, it wasn't bad. I was trying for some nanites, but no luck.

Went over to Monria to try for some dianthus, but didn't seem good enough to stick around. Probably try to stick to surface again for awhile.

Some more Ark action, doing some TH looking for bismuth...found a little but not enough to cover this kind of loss.

Edit: I forgot I stored some materials, so actually this run ended up pretty decent. I thought it was weird it sucked so bad, I had several XI and a glob which should've put me at a nice TT%. Fixed results.

Hi all, It's been awhile since my last update, I took a little break from the game. Looks like this was trip #50, so an overall update is due too. I really can't complain too much, still ahead with MU, TT-wise it's pretty so-so. I'm still eager to see where I'll level out. I'm gonna try to get more active again. Current ground will bring my average MU down, as near all of it is TT garbage. But all in the name of study! Thanks for reading.

I did a 500 drop TH run today, results were kinda average, MU brought me up a little 111% average bismuth mu only. Pretty low, but nanites could bump that up long-term if I ever find any, swords/daggers too, same story. Gonna try again next run. GL all!

Is the average HR in overall results an average of outdoor only or that of all mining? (IMHO the latter would make as much sense as measuring average temperature in a hospital ward )

Yeah, I don't have many drops indoors, not counting those I'm at 26.68% hr. Not a big difference.

I got my first mod nanite this run, so that helped recover a bit. But overall a pretty bad run, tt was pretty low. Ended up with 27 ped of bismuth, so with that and the nanite, I was pretty close to breaking even. Not sure when the bad streak will end, been pretty poor TT returns on this log for awhile. Inching closer to 90% overall every run. Anyway, I'll keep trying this for awhile, I'm curious how often nanites drop. GL all.