What are scopes and sights for?

The item info screen says that they improve your ability to hit a mob, but if you are already maxed on a weapon, does it go beyond that? If not, I don't really understand their purpose since my understanding is you shouldn't use unmaxed weapons anyhow, and zoom doesn't seem like a very useful feature in this game.

Detritus said:

The item info screen says that they improve your ability to hit a mob, but if you are already maxed on a weapon, does it go beyond that? If not, I don't really understand their purpose since my understanding is you shouldn't use unmaxed weapons anyhow, and zoom doesn't seem like a very useful feature in this game.

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MA legacy item. They now just add skillgain based on the TT cost (decay) from using them.

Detritus said:

The item info screen says that they improve your ability to hit a mob, but if you are already maxed on a weapon, does it go beyond that? If not, I don't really understand their purpose since my understanding is you shouldn't use unmaxed weapons anyhow, and zoom doesn't seem like a very useful feature in this game.

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History lesson:
We didn't have weapons that you could realistically max without lots of money and time until we got SIB weapons

Aio said:

MA legacy item. They now just add skillgain based on the TT cost (decay) from using them.

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Interesting, so it's kind of like a permanent boost pill? It also seems to reduce the economy of the weapon, according to Entropedia, so I'm not sure it would be worth it.

golddude said:

History lesson:
We didn't have weapons that you could realistically max without lots of money and time until we got SIB weapons

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Ah yes, I have seen some of these - they have a max level of 100, right? I can see how the attachments would make more sense for those.

Detritus said:

Interesting, so it's kind of like a permanent boost pill? It also seems to reduce the economy of the weapon, according to Entropedia, so I'm not sure it would be worth it..

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Economically, it usually isn't. Some people prefer to pay than spend the extra time skilling, it's up to you.

fred5283 said:

Hmmm, if this is true, then how come it doesn't show up as a buff like a ring, skill boost, etc... when you equip a weapon with a sight/scope attached?

I wonder if it's a bug or broke...

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Because it's not a buff, per se. It's an increase in cost, and as TT in = TT out as far as skills are concerned, the greater input in cost you have the greater output in skills you will have.

Basically, take the case of LC60+A106; that costs 36.221 pec per shot. If you attach 2x Hunnir laser + 1x Jzar Scope (+0.284pec per shot), the overall cost will be 36.505, or a 0.7% increase in cost. You will see a... 0.7% increase in skill gains.

Aio said:

You will see a... 0.7% increase in skill gains.

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To put it another way - instead of it taking you 5 years to unlock Kill Strike without chipping, it would only take you 4 years and 352 days!

fred5283 said:

Then why do the moonshine weapons show the buff when equipped?

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Because they're actually buffing?

Equip Effect: Skill Gain - BLP Weapons. Strength: 1%

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I'm sure MA could add that information to scopes/lasers, but as I said in the first post they are a legacy item which hasn't been touched since the first implementation (in the way they work). The way it stands at the moment, anything which has a higher cost will gain you more skills. Using a Mod Merc will gain you more skills per second than an Opalo.