JohnCapital
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Been doing some more long term testing, and the results are interesting.
First, what if you do small(puny) mobs with eco setups and virtually no armor/fap cost?
I've hunted quite a few small mobs this year and the results are quite a bit more disappointing than I expected.
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Feb-May 2016 - Scout bot (30 health) (Z12/Tt pistol/ZX amp)
Spent - 5,178.40
TT Loot - 4,887.16 (94.375%)
Sept. 2016 - Sabakuma(Young/Mature, 20/40 health) (Z12/Tt pistol/ZX amp/TT knife)
Spent - 435.69
TT Loot - 398.83 (91.539%)
Oct. 2016 - Maff punies (20/40 health) (Z12/Tt pistol/ZX amp/TT knife)
Spent - 705.39
TT Loot - 609.10 (86.349%)
Nov. 2016 - Halix(Young/Mature, 30/40 health) (Z12/Tt pistol/ZX amp/TT knife)
Spent - 508.56
TT Loot - 475.27 (93.454%)
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The vast majority of these hunts were using a tt pistol+ZX amp and either unamped pistol or tt knife as finisher. The TT returns are not amazing at all. And at that low level, you would expect returns to not require 10,000+ ped of hunting to "even out". (A TT pistol+ZX hunt is ~20.08 cost, so these are over many hunts)
Compare those to my year and a half of doing mostly daily mission hunts. Small qty of random mobs scattered all over should have given me very poor overall results, but...
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Apr 2015 - today - Daily hunting missions (Various mobs/health/feff cave/argo cave) (Various gear, usually ep-52,53,54 cdf(L), LC-55 cdf(L) + A104/imp A105 + philo sword finisher, or Z12/tt pistol/tt knife+zx amp)
Spent - 44,372.9
TT Loot - 41,818.14 (94.242%)
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And for final comparison, looking at my overall results for the past 5 years:
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Apr 2011-today - all hunting
Spent - 247,021.58
TT Loot - 227,483.60 (92.09%)
total armor - 3,766.59 (1.524%)
total fap - 1,555.18 (0.629%)
if armor/fap = zero - 94.244%
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So it seems I'm going to stay in the 92-94% return realm no matter how or what I hunt.
When I see people make long term 97%+ tt returns, all I can do is say "Congratulations. Your results are not typical".
For those planning to reply with the normal "use more eco weapons" and/or "lower your defense cost", please re-read my setups and defense costs. (I'm also pretty sure the defense costs are covering a few fap jobs that sneaked into my hunting logs over the years, so it's actually even lower.)
It would take a HUGE investment to get much better eco & dmg/sec setups, and for some reason, I'm guessing that my playing style won't benefit from it. (Note that when I used ultra eco on small mobs, my returns were actually worse)
I suspect, my biggest problem is not what gear I use or what I hunt, but WHEN. Being west coast USA (8 hours behind MA time) seems to be my hugest disadvantage as I can't hunt during "peak" times.
First, what if you do small(puny) mobs with eco setups and virtually no armor/fap cost?
I've hunted quite a few small mobs this year and the results are quite a bit more disappointing than I expected.
===============================================
Feb-May 2016 - Scout bot (30 health) (Z12/Tt pistol/ZX amp)
Spent - 5,178.40
TT Loot - 4,887.16 (94.375%)
Sept. 2016 - Sabakuma(Young/Mature, 20/40 health) (Z12/Tt pistol/ZX amp/TT knife)
Spent - 435.69
TT Loot - 398.83 (91.539%)
Oct. 2016 - Maff punies (20/40 health) (Z12/Tt pistol/ZX amp/TT knife)
Spent - 705.39
TT Loot - 609.10 (86.349%)
Nov. 2016 - Halix(Young/Mature, 30/40 health) (Z12/Tt pistol/ZX amp/TT knife)
Spent - 508.56
TT Loot - 475.27 (93.454%)
===============================================
The vast majority of these hunts were using a tt pistol+ZX amp and either unamped pistol or tt knife as finisher. The TT returns are not amazing at all. And at that low level, you would expect returns to not require 10,000+ ped of hunting to "even out". (A TT pistol+ZX hunt is ~20.08 cost, so these are over many hunts)
Compare those to my year and a half of doing mostly daily mission hunts. Small qty of random mobs scattered all over should have given me very poor overall results, but...
===============================================
Apr 2015 - today - Daily hunting missions (Various mobs/health/feff cave/argo cave) (Various gear, usually ep-52,53,54 cdf(L), LC-55 cdf(L) + A104/imp A105 + philo sword finisher, or Z12/tt pistol/tt knife+zx amp)
Spent - 44,372.9
TT Loot - 41,818.14 (94.242%)
===============================================
And for final comparison, looking at my overall results for the past 5 years:
===============================================
Apr 2011-today - all hunting
Spent - 247,021.58
TT Loot - 227,483.60 (92.09%)
total armor - 3,766.59 (1.524%)
total fap - 1,555.18 (0.629%)
if armor/fap = zero - 94.244%
===============================================
So it seems I'm going to stay in the 92-94% return realm no matter how or what I hunt.
When I see people make long term 97%+ tt returns, all I can do is say "Congratulations. Your results are not typical".
For those planning to reply with the normal "use more eco weapons" and/or "lower your defense cost", please re-read my setups and defense costs. (I'm also pretty sure the defense costs are covering a few fap jobs that sneaked into my hunting logs over the years, so it's actually even lower.)
It would take a HUGE investment to get much better eco & dmg/sec setups, and for some reason, I'm guessing that my playing style won't benefit from it. (Note that when I used ultra eco on small mobs, my returns were actually worse)
I suspect, my biggest problem is not what gear I use or what I hunt, but WHEN. Being west coast USA (8 hours behind MA time) seems to be my hugest disadvantage as I can't hunt during "peak" times.