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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy trim View Post
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    This is a lot speculation on your part. Players do get warned, temp banned and permanently banned. They do need proof as they could find them selfs in court if they lock a players account with thousands of dollars in. Also not many players are going to say yes I been warned or temp banded for being a naughty boy.
    Good points.

    I wonder if the same applies to planet partners? I mean if they do naughty things do they get warned, temp banned, or even permanently banned for cheating? Can that even make sense , perhaps they need to have those avatars etc to run their planet or if a planet partner is permanently banned they could just make another avatar because they may have powers to create as many avatars as they want. I wonder when a planet partner creates an avatar for themselves if they can just add peds to that account out of thin air and if they can then withdraw those peds? thereby cheating everyone playing the game and MA out of money.
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    Planet partner avatars created by mindark cannot withdraw peds. Their former accounts are locked/frozen.

    With all that being said, neverdie seems to be the exemption to the rule of freezing avatars. Perhaps he has something in his pp agreement.

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    Planet partner avatars created by mindark cannot withdraw peds. Their former accounts are locked/frozen.

    With all that being said, neverdie seems to be the exemption to the rule of freezing avatars. Perhaps he has something in his pp agreement.
    planet partners also have undercover avatars i.e. avatars that act and behave like real avatars. It's those avatars that can get upto some mischief in my opinion.

    Ironically neverdie is probably the honest one at least he stands up for what he believes in. Which I cannot say for some other planet partners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeSkywalker View Post
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    Good points.

    I wonder if the same applies to planet partners? I mean if they do naughty things do they get warned, temp banned, or even permanently banned for cheating? Can that even make sense , perhaps they need to have those avatars etc to run their planet or if a planet partner is permanently banned they could just make another avatar because they may have powers to create as many avatars as they want. I wonder when a planet partner creates an avatar for themselves if they can just add peds to that account out of thin air and if they can then withdraw those peds? thereby cheating everyone playing the game and MA out of money.
    It sounds like you are giving pp far to much power. As far as I know they can't even withdraw PEDs and certainly can't make PEDs. They can't even make a super eco gun, without MA giving it the nod. I would of thought MA pays Pp after they deducted and freebies.

    I have heard that if you keep making alts to get freebies, all accounts locked till money is paid back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy trim View Post
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    It sounds like you are giving pp far to much power. As far as I know they can't even withdraw PEDs and certainly can't make PEDs. They can't even make a super eco gun, without MA giving it the nod. I would of thought MA pays Pp after they deducted and freebies.

    I have heard that if you keep making alts to get freebies, all accounts locked till money is paid back.
    Mostly true. Pp are not autonomous. They have to go through mindark for almost everything. There are safeguards etc in place for those that try to slip stuff in (thanks ND for that....).

    They really can't do anything for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicstorm View Post
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    Mostly true. Pp are not autonomous. They have to go through mindark for almost everything. There are safeguards etc in place for those that try to slip stuff in (thanks ND for that....).

    They really can't do anything for free.
    That's right I am sure George remembers when MS was released ND had to buy one from global auction to give out as a prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy trim View Post
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    It sounds like you are giving pp far to much power. As far as I know they can't even withdraw PEDs and certainly can't make PEDs. They can't even make a super eco gun, without MA giving it the nod. I would of thought MA pays Pp after they deducted and freebies.

    I have heard that if you keep making alts to get freebies, all accounts locked till money is paid back.
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    Mostly true. Pp are not autonomous. They have to go through mindark for almost everything. There are safeguards etc in place for those that try to slip stuff in (thanks ND for that....).

    They really can't do anything for free.
    I don't know the extent of their powers and wouldn't like to guess or make assumptions just keeping an open mind.

    However what I do know is they can easily abuse powers that they do have. For example when I had a shop on Arkadia I had a sign in the shop. The message got removed and the sign placed in my inventory. At that time I didn't know that and I assumed I must have been mistaken how else could the sign be in my inventory maybe I only thought about putting a message on and placing sign in my shop. It's easy to delude yourself so I placed the message on sign again and placed it in the shop. Again the message was removed and sign placed in my inventory. This time I knew for certain someone had done that. So I made a support case. To this date I have not be refunded (placing message on signs and placing in shop can be expensive) just some vague comment from arkadia staff that they presumably didn't like the message. All the message said was I was closing shop and moving to calypso it may also have given details about contacting me for purchase of shop I'm not absolutely sure if I put those contact details on or not. Nothing in the message warrants the message to be removed and sign placed in my inventory because there isn't any swearing, pornographic, criminal etc. Nevertheless that's exactly what they did twice.

    This shows to me planet partners have powers to alter your things and move your equipment about. Certainly from in game to your inventory. Not sure if they need to go through mindark or not to do that. It suggests they may also have powers to move things from your inventory to in game. So it may be possible for them to steal items, if someone has 40 copies of same item in inventory e.g. rk5's if one went missing would you realise it's missing? probably not.

    If they decide to abuse just those powers there isn't didly you can do about it either except stop going to that planet.


    As to withdrawing peds if they can't directly withdraw peds it's fairly easy to circumvent they could give or drop peds to an avatar that can withdraw peds.

    As for creating peds there must be a mechanism to do that it's fundamental to the game. For example when my message got removed from sign I lost peds and I should rightly have been compensated. I'm sure others have mentioned they lost peds due to such and such and may have been compensated the peds. There has to be a mechanism to compensate peds and if there is it could also be abused.

    As for not having powers to create super eco gun we know that can also be abused for example there was an arkadian sword made that couldn't be used with an amp or a certain amp I forget the details but for sure something wasn't right about it. I think it was owned by atomicstorm who posted above. Arkadia staff should not have made that sword because it triggered an internal MA mechanism that disallowed it to be used in some circumstances. Why did Arkadia make it in the first place? either they were ignorant of what they are making or deliberately tried to make it. I doubt they were ignorant, one way to attract players is to make super items.

    No matter what mechanisms MA place to safeguard super items coming into game it seems to show they can be abused by PP. If pp need a nod from MA to place super item in game then how was it abused in this case? Did they give false details , or amend specs of item just before its placed it in i.e. amend after being given go ahead? I don't think we'll ever know for sure. Just people making speculations including myself.
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    Sure is a lot of conspiracy and antedoctal rubbish in your thread. I can't speak to the experiences you've had or being booted off the planet (from what I understand from the populace, you deserved it). However, the planet partner has the right, within the rules of their agreement and to the extent of the ingame powers they are given to manage their planet. We don't know what was in your sign, you haven't shown us what it was. We just get one side of the story. That's not sufficient. I would have not faulted neverdie to have done the same when gewitter went on a bender and told rocktropia population to (paraphrasing) f themselves on a sign in his tangerine shop from doing the same thing.

    As for the sword, this fault lies with mindark and neverdie. The safeguard is there because of neverdie 9dpp weapon. Mindark didn't tell arkadia about it and mindark isn't exactly transparent about how items work. It's a great sword that has limitations with the mod 8 amp. Ofc they designed it to be super eco. That's the draw and they had to pay mindark for it to be made. That's how it works. They can't just make stuff out of thin air.

    To get you off your arkadia conspiracies (you should really stop and try to be impartial with your commentary), this same safeguard actually applies to the imk2. The imk2 cannot use the alpha amps (except for a couple ways I know of). This tells me that this safeguard is to prevent the absorption of all decay on the weapon so that it could cause problems with the game (remember ma and pp make money on decay not deposits) and also to prevent extremely high dpp weapons like 9 that ND introduced. This fault is with mindark for not telling players this existed. It took 4 months with the help of ark officials to find out what the problem was. They were as surprised as I was and I appreciate them doing that investigative work.

    Not everything is a grand conspiracy. If you want to live in this world of (rather dangerous) hypotheticals, you should really just sell out and go do something else. You will drive yourself mad.. if not already. Life is too short to be forever in this mindset and no one will take you seriously if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeSkywalker View Post
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    However what I do know is they can easily abuse powers that they do have. For example when I had a shop on Arkadia I had a sign in the shop. The message got removed and the sign placed in my inventory. At that time I didn't know that and I assumed I must have been mistaken how else could the sign be in my inventory maybe I only thought about putting a message on and placing sign in my shop. It's easy to delude yourself so I placed the message on sign again and placed it in the shop. Again the message was removed and sign placed in my inventory. This time I knew for certain someone had done that. So I made a support case. To this date I have not be refunded (placing message on signs and placing in shop can be expensive) just some vague comment from arkadia staff that they presumably didn't like the message.
    Is the pc upload still on account or was sign a typed out message? If an upload it should still be in the system?... if it was PC you uploaded you should be able to do the thing in the system to at least get some of the peds back from it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicstorm View Post
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    Sure is a lot of conspiracy and antedoctal rubbish in your thread.
    What conspiracy and anecdotal rubbish is there exactly? can you be more specific? All I did was mention some possibilities and say I was keeping an open mind.

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    I can't speak to the experiences you've had or being booted off the planet (from what I understand from the populace, you deserved it).
    You can't get "booted" from a planet. It's by my own choice I decide not to go there.
    Can you please explain why I deserved to be "booted"?

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    We don't know what was in your sign, you haven't shown us what it was. We just get one side of the story. That's not sufficient.
    So we need to evidence every small thing we do in the game? Sure evidence is better and with hindsight I should have taken a picture but who takes pictures of irrelevant small things that are not problematic whatsoever?

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    I would have not faulted neverdie to have done the same when gewitter went on a bender and told rocktropia population to (paraphrasing) f themselves on a sign in his tangerine shop from doing the same thing.
    Are you implying my sign deserved to be taken down?


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    To get you off your arkadia conspiracies (you should really stop and try to be impartial with your commentary)...
    The only person being biased and impartial here is yourself. You seem to be blaming ND, Mindark and myself for some things which you can't possibly know the true facts about without being a developer or having some insider knowledge. Before you jump on your conspiracy bandwagon again no I'm not saying your a developer or have insider knowledge. Your more likely to be someone making assumptions without knowing the true facts.

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    Not everything is a grand conspiracy.
    Totally agree.


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    If you want to live in this world of (rather dangerous) hypotheticals, you should really just sell out and go do something else.
    Keeping an open mind I think is for the better. Your welcome not to keep an open mind that is your right.

    Also you just said earlier about being impartial and to be impartial involves keeping an open mind.

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    You will drive yourself mad.. if not already.
    On the contrary keeping an open mind and wits about yourself stops you from going mad and make better decisions.
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