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SnowingMoon

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Hello, as a miner/hunter i noticed one very sick trend: a lot of players specifically buy and resell weapons/med tools/armor and drive up the prices and on top of that, there is like a lot of them doing this. In most cases, they do not even use them, they are only there to resell the items. I do not think this is wrong, i resell items too, but i only resell items i use, and imo this makes the game more expensive then it already should be. Its very disheartening when i decided to consider maybe plunging in some peds to buy a weapon/tool that i like only to see it goes for another + few hundred peds.:(

The game already encourages people to resell/invest more then playing the game itself :( please introduce more bound gears. I notice bound vivo s10 and those bound cyrene/viceroy armor was a huge success. Having more bound items would also encourage people to go out and play the game more :D Would there be more of such things to come?
 
I don't like bound/gear you can "buy" from a NPC like Viceroy.

On the other hand, i like bound gear as a reward for missions and maybe events.
But for events its difficult in my opinion, if you go for an event to get an item you may need/want it - but what when you max. it / lvl getting to low or something.... you can't sell it.
 
AxeMurderer said:
I agree.
btw nice signature :laugh:
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oh lol its very big red i guess :ahh:


Mr-Joey said:
I don't like bound/gear you can "buy" from a NPC like Viceroy.

On the other hand, i like bound gear as a reward for missions and maybe events.
But for events its difficult in my opinion, if you go for an event to get an item you may need/want it - but what when you max. it / lvl getting to low or something.... you can't sell it.
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in one of those MMOs i played they introduced a standard item and it has a chance to be constantly upgraded. :) so the best gear = the standard gear that you keep upgrading it the most, like the adjusted restoration chip can be upgraded to improved at a later stage, then mod :)
 
It's also buying/selling thread under buying/selling rant post :laugh:
 
They may as well just remove the withdrawal then, what's the point if you can't redeem your assets.
 
SnowingMoon said:
Hello, as a miner/hunter i noticed one very sick trend: a lot of players specifically buy and resell weapons/med tools/armor and drive up the prices and on top of that, there is like a lot of them doing this. In most cases, they do not even use them, they are only there to resell the items. I do not think this is wrong, i resell items too, but i only resell items i use, and imo this makes the game more expensive then it already should be. Its very disheartening when i decided to consider maybe plunging in some peds to buy a weapon/tool that i like only to see it goes for another + few hundred peds.:(

The game already encourages people to resell/invest more then playing the game itself :( please introduce more bound gears. I notice bound vivo s10 and those bound cyrene/viceroy armor was a huge success. Having more bound items would also encourage people to go out and play the game more :D Would there be more of such things to come?
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So you want kill MU on items altogether? With more bound items then people wont want to buy upgrades, craft stuff or buy stuff. The fab market is rubbish since vivo 10 and up gradable fabs was introduced. This then had negivitove effect on crafting faps and mining blood moss. Look at the rings in strong boxs that cant be TT'd and how many moan about that.
 
Svarog said:
They may as well just remove the withdrawal then, what's the point if you can't redeem your assets.
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I hate bound items... Thats not a real cash economy.
Like you buy your new car IRL then few years laters u want a new one again but u have to keep old one as u cant sell it as it is bound to you XD.. got a message? Now u have two cars :D
 
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bigdaddy trim said:
So you want kill MU on items altogether? With more bound items then people wont want to buy upgrades, craft stuff or buy stuff. The fab market is rubbish since vivo 10 and up gradable fabs was introduced. This then had negivitove effect on crafting faps and mining blood moss. Look at the rings in strong boxs that cant be TT'd and how many moan about that.
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hmm, i think MA can introduce something to work out the market so that they dont completely kill the mu of items. Maybe having it as a reward from missions would be nice since there will be costs involved. I don't really pay attention to the low end level fap tools on the market, but at least as a hunter pov, having a vivos10 for new players is good. The other day i wanted to finish hunting some monsters , and i couldnt find a low level healer. A slightly new player with a vivo s10 was able to help me out with healing. Imagine with resellers reselling low level faps that it goes for tt + 100, i am sure that new player wont be able to help me then. :)
 
robber said:
I hate bound items... Thats not a real cash economy.
Like you buy your new car IRL then few years laters u want a new one again but u have to keep old one as u cant sell it as it is bound to you XD.. got a message? Now u have two cars :D
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taxi business anyone?
You can't sell the car but you can make profit using it smart.Its the same in EU but people choose to complain its easier.
 
i don't like much bound items, because they kill mu and are not sellable when u dont need them, but MA can make them reparable with ore/ematters/hunt loot stuff.

for example, if u want to repair armor u have to use ore and hide or wool or something like that (or some new crafted items)
 
messi91 said:
taxi business anyone?
You can't sell the car but you can make profit using it smart.Its the same in EU but people choose to complain its easier.
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Messi how u will drive two cars at the same time? ;) remmber its awa bound and you cant give it to some one else to drive so u end up with two vehicles where one will colect dust.....


i didnt say car is bad.. its just fact its ava bound i dont like..
 
robber said:
Messi how u will drive two cars at the same time? ;) remmber its awa bound and you cant give it to some one else to drive so u end up with two vehicles where one will colect dust.....


i didnt say car is bad.. its just fact its ava bound i dont like..
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I am sure you can use my analogy to find the answer.
I can't wait to get modified viceroy.I also like dust :)
I hope you have the answer by now.
 
Antrace said:
i don't like much bound items, because they kill mu and are not sellable when u dont need them, but MA can make them reparable with ore/ematters/hunt loot stuff.

for example, if u want to repair armor u have to use ore and hide or wool or something like that (or some new crafted items)
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I also think bound items are a horrible idea except for a very small selection of them being around. But if they were more widespread then this would be a good idea.
 
I don't like bound items that much either, however I think his point was that lately more and more people are just being a trader as a profesion. They buy stuff, but don't go out and hunt, craft, mine or whatever. They just trade. And I agree, if too many people turn to this or newbies who join make that their thing then it will make the game more expensive for those who do play. However making more bound items might not be the best thing since that will also cut into the economy (just like to many UL items).
 
messi91 said:
taxi business anyone?
You can't sell the car but you can make profit using it smart.Its the same in EU but people choose to complain its easier.
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Not all of us have extra helpers to drive that second car :laugh::laugh:
 
"buy and resell weapons/med tools/armor and drive up the prices and on top of that,"
it is called ECONOMY, and the very nature of EU is RMT and its online casino style, and everything is sellable from an animal oil to skill, even your soul. bound item is totally against it since it cannot be put on AH, I still wonder why MA even started implenting such items into game same for THING items...or maybe it can be good for their making money in a way i cant imagine ?

Gill
 
messi91 said:
I am sure you can use my analogy to find the answer.
I can't wait to get modified viceroy.I also like dust :)
I hope you have the answer by now.
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I dont get it either. Please explain. We all recognise your insane intellect, now explain to us lesser smart people, how you run a taxi service with 2 cars that cannot be loaned, traded or given away for free.
 
Aio said:
Not all of us have extra helpers to drive that second car :laugh::laugh:
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You are missing the point obviously.
Did anyone mentioned about extra help?
 
messi91 said:
You are missing the point obviously.
Did anyone mentioned about extra help?
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I think what Messi is saying, is that we should utilize the bound item the best we can. So if bound car, run a taxi service. Now i believe Messi is part of small group who has little worries about money and play for fun and competition. Where most other play to get the most out of money or even profit, bound items do not help this.
 
bigdaddy trim said:
I think what Messi is saying, is that we should utilize the bound item the best we can. So if bound car, run a taxi service. Now i believe Messi is part of small group who has little worries about money and play for fun and competition. Where most other play to get the most out of money or even profit, bound items do not help this.
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Someone is able to connect 2 dots in this forum.Also I don't encourage people to assume things.In fact, this is one of the things I dislike the most but I won't be harsh with you because you used in a good way :)

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messi91 said:
Someone is able to connect 2 dots in this forum.Also I don't encourage people to assume things.In fact, this is one of the things I dislike the most but I won't be harsh with you because you used in a good way :)

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So did he assume right? If so, you are saying that if you get a new bound car, you should not use it but keep driving the old car as a taxi service and stop complaining ? I want to connect those dots too , oww almighty one.
 
If item bound to account then "Item Count" should = zero.

Well, if MA is going to dump things to my account, bound, not sellable, non-transferable, etc. then AT LEAST Don't take up my limited amount of storage with them!

Bound item, then perhaps Storage item-count is not affected?. With that simple change I may begin Not resenting bound items.
 
robber said:
I hate bound items... Thats not a real cash economy.
Like you buy your new car IRL then few years laters u want a new one again but u have to keep old one as u cant sell it as it is bound to you XD.. got a message? Now u have two cars :D
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Keep the old one to store extra stuff in it, and keep old car in "storage". :laugh:

But I disagree with the concept of bound items helping in game economy.
Strong economy works when money can stay in circulation among players for a long time.
And irl government bailouts happen when the economy is in trouble and the same holds true in a game like this. When everything is given by MA for free or no MU then the economy will die and as others said there's no need to have a withdrawl system when that happens. Simply adding too many bound items too quickly would damage this games economy and likely cause an exodus of players leaving permanently.

Also resellers aren't a problem, they keep money circulating and to be good they need a pile of peds in game to bid on all no/low mu stuff. Then wait 7 days for the item, and that's on the off chance someone else doesn't outbid them. Reselling is also a risk as there might not be a buyer for an item, and everytime they put an item to auction MA gets a fee. Then their money could be tied up in that auction for 7 days, or posting (every 15 minutes or so) in trade chats the items they want to sell, and updating items info on websites, etc. All that social stuff and watching auctions takes a lot of time and really seems thankless. Suggest everyone try it sometime, I've tried it briefly.

I think everyone would agree with the OP that there needs to be more players, and MA's advertising needs work.
 
Yes lets kill the real cash economy of the game even further. Op, please do this IRL it might smack some sense into your head.

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Spawn said:
So did he assume right? If so, you are saying that if you get a new bound car, you should not use it but keep driving the old car as a taxi service and stop complaining ? I want to connect those dots too , oww almighty one.
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I would ask myself : Do I need a new car? If so what are the costs and effects.
 
Wait, I assumed the OP was joking or trolling so didn't venture into discussing, expecting the thread to get buried under sarcastic comments. But now we are seriously weighting pros of bound items in RCE economy? The whole discussion is like "Let them cut my legs off so I can save on shoes".
 
Fuck account bound items.

This is an RCE game, we should be able to trade everything in every possible way.
 
Gill said:
"buy and resell weapons/med tools/armor and drive up the prices and on top of that,"
it is called ECONOMY, and the very nature of EU is RMT and its online casino style, and everything is sellable from an animal oil to skill, even your soul. bound item is totally against it since it cannot be put on AH, I still wonder why MA even started implenting such items into game same for THING items...or maybe it can be good for their making money in a way i cant imagine ?

Gill
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in every rl economy , there are government bound rules so as to prevent things from spiraling out of control. I see many people rather focus on trading then playing the game itself, which i think imo is fine but not when equipment are involved and i think MA needs to step in at some point :x just a quick look at PCF sell thread and even the auction system itself, i easily spotted a lot of regular resellers.
 
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