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People,

No point in posting this in that other thread. As it will be locked when 711 wakes up, so here it is.

I cannot believe anyone would play this game, if they truly believed MA were corrupt. Don't get me wrong, i think they can be stupid, and make silly decisions, ALOT, but corrupt???


So all you people that believe MA are corrupt, and are still paying. I laugh in your general direction at your idiocy, for still playing....... :laugh:



Rgds

Ace
 
its obviously they don't believe :)
its just a way to show their frustration and that they are super jelly
 
i only have a problem atm thats fucking bot hunters

MA still ignoring us , until when ?
 
i only have a problem atm thats fucking bot hunters

MA still ignoring us , until when ?

maybe take proofs and report them? I already did
 
i only have a problem atm thats fucking bot hunters

MA still ignoring us , until when ?

That & the recent sale of high level ava's
 
That & the recent sale of high level ava's

please show us some proof items were sold and if they sold their items show proof they withdrew peds and stopped playing the game.
Otherwise stop speculating what others do when you have no fucking clue.
 
Since I believe you are addressing me directly...

Definition of an IDIOT:
noun
1.
Informal. an utterly foolish or senseless person:
If you think you can wear that outfit to a job interview and get hired, you're an idiot!
2.
Psychology. (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.

I dont see how I fit this definition with questioning things, i'd say im more in the curious field than idiot, but if you think so...

I cannot believe anyone would PAY TAXES, if they truly believed THEIR GOVERNMENT were corrupt. Don't get me wrong, i think they can be stupid, and make silly decisions, ALOT, but corrupt???


Some people ignore and think everything is NICE and SHINY. I was also hoping a few things that I saw in my life cannot be true, yet found out how horribly wrong I was.

I've been to over 30 countries, talked with many businessmen, and the main theme in common in all those countries, was CORRUPTION.

I've personally had experience directly and indirectly with corruption in the following fields:
- school
- hospital
- police
- business
- government

I could write examples of corruption I've experienced, and I have a friend who could write BOOKS on the level of corruption hes seen in his life (he works in finance police).

Why would you just DISMISS this possibility in EU right away and put someone in the category of idiots?

Just wondering what makes you so certain...

Thanks,
True :bandit:
 
The politics of EU...lol, this thread made me laugh. It's early not been up long, I've not even caught up with the gossip yet.

It's easy to label corruption based on other words; such as collusion or favoritism, turning a blind eye for example. Although in all my years in EU, I can only really point to one word and that's 'compensation'.

Event prizes make me smile. I'm sure these guys need a prize to equal out their ped card, if it don't come I'm sure MA scratch their head working out how to compensate them. Now some might say that's not fair, but lets say that without this "balancing" effect we would be in a very big hole.

The message is shoot as hard as you can, hope MA is watching and sort you out when you're at your personal limit of what you can take...lol. The issue with that of course is everyone has their own personal ceiling of perception of loss...lol. You might lose 10K, MA might say I'm really not interested until you lose 20K lol
(who knows....lol).

If you're a massive whale and pay the game a lot of money, can any of us really complain? I will 'never' run 20 ped explo clicks, I like to dabble though on the 20 pec version. If you see a player get 3 x ATH's and say that's not right or fair, then think about that player might have lost $5K a month. So MA keeps them happy so that player keeps paying $5K a month. Corruption? nahhh it's sensible for a game like this to behave like that. Is that player really a winner? not in my book.

Nothing stopping any of us chasing the dream, and hoping MA are watching, and compensate us. If you want to take that chance is up to any of us. It may happen it may not. Although one thing is for certain, lose enough and you will get on the radar. Help Ma in some form you'd get on the radar, that could be you tube videos, streaming, other PR loads of things.

Simply MA does it's best to create a balance and sometimes I'm sure they throw in a helping hand. So what, it can and will happen to you too at some point.

Rick x
 
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The politics of EU...lol, this thread made me laugh. It's early not been up long, I've not even caught up with the gossip yet.

It's easy to label corruption based on other words; such as collusion or favoritism, turning a blind eye for example. Although in all my years in EU, I can only really point to one word and that's 'compensation'.

Event prizes make me smile. I'm sure these guys need a prize to equal out their ped card, if it don't come I'm sure MA scratch their head working out how to compensate them. Now some might say that's not fair, but lets say that without this "balancing" effect we would be in a very big hole.

The message is shoot as hard as you can, hope MA is watching and sort you out when you're at your personal limit of what you can take...lol. The issue with that of course is everyone has their own personal ceiling of perception of loss...lol. You might lose 10K, MA might say I'm really not interested until you lose 20K lol
(who knows....lol).

If you're a massive whale and pay the game a lot of money, can any of us really complain? I will 'never' run 20 ped explo clicks, I like to dabble though on the 20 pec version. If you see a player get 3 x ATH's and say that's not right or fair, then think about that player might have lost $5K a month. So MA keeps them happy so that player keeps paying $5K a month. Corruption? nahhh it's sensible for a game like this to behave like that. Is that player really a winner? not in my book.

Nothing stopping any of us chasing the dream, and hoping MA are watching, and compensate us. If you want to take that chance is up to any of us. It may happen it may not. Although one thing is for certain, lose enough and you will get on the radar. Help Ma in some form you'd get on the radar, that could be you tube videos, streaming, other PR loads of things.

Simply MA does it's best to create a balance and sometimes I'm sure they throw in a helping hand. So what, it can and will happen to you too at some point.

Rick x


Love your post and your perception of reality, for sure you could write science fiction books.

Have a good day!
 
Only as corrupt as the top Vegas Casinos ever where (Some would argue still are - especially those actually visiting them or working for them daily, lol)......
 
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The politics of EU...lol, this thread made me laugh. It's early not been up long, I've not even caught up with the gossip yet.

It's easy to label corruption based on other words; such as collusion or favoritism, turning a blind eye for example. Although in all my years in EU, I can only really point to one word and that's 'compensation'.

Event prizes make me smile. I'm sure these guys need a prize to equal out their ped card, if it don't come I'm sure MA scratch their head working out how to compensate them. Now some might say that's not fair, but lets say that without this "balancing" effect we would be in a very big hole.

The message is shoot as hard as you can, hope MA is watching and sort you out when you're at your personal limit of what you can take...lol. The issue with that of course is everyone has their own personal ceiling of perception of loss...lol. You might lose 10K, MA might say I'm really not interested until you lose 20K lol
(who knows....lol).

If you're a massive whale and pay the game a lot of money, can any of us really complain? I will 'never' run 20 ped explo clicks, I like to dabble though on the 20 pec version. If you see a player get 3 x ATH's and say that's not right or fair, then think about that player might have lost $5K a month. So MA keeps them happy so that player keeps paying $5K a month. Corruption? nahhh it's sensible for a game like this to behave like that. Is that player really a winner? not in my book.

Nothing stopping any of us chasing the dream, and hoping MA are watching, and compensate us. If you want to take that chance is up to any of us. It may happen it may not. Although one thing is for certain, lose enough and you will get on the radar. Help Ma in some form you'd get on the radar, that could be you tube videos, streaming, other PR loads of things.

Simply MA does it's best to create a balance and sometimes I'm sure they throw in a helping hand. So what, it can and will happen to you too at some point.

Rick x
Rick, there are compensatory and balancing mechanisms for sure but these are obviously automatic and part of the loot algorithm. Do you seriously believe MA spend man-hours looking over people's recent returns to dish out compensations? That's just incredibly naive. Would be an awfully ineffective business model for starters.

For as long as I remember you have been lurking these forums with your tinfoil hat, biting on every chance to spit your nonsense conspiracy theories. I am intrigued by how people like you function, I suppose it's some kind of psychological relief to always put the blame on others?
 
I cannot believe anyone would PAY TAXES, if they truly believed THEIR GOVERNMENT were corrupt. Don't get me wrong, i think they can be stupid, and make silly decisions, ALOT, but corrupt???

You can opt out of playing this game, but not of being the subject of your government (except by opting into another one, if you think that's any better). Hence OP's statement is valid, regardless of which is actually the case. Acting against better knowledge is idiotic, therefore it is not assumed to be happening. This is actually praising people.
 
Rick, there are compensatory and balancing mechanisms for sure but these are obviously automatic and part of the loot algorithm. Do you seriously believe MA spend man-hours looking over people's recent returns to dish out compensations? That's just incredibly naive. Would be an awfully ineffective business model for starters.

For as long as I remember you have been lurking these forums with your tinfoil hat, biting on every chance to spit your nonsense conspiracy theories. I am intrigued by how people like you function, I suppose it's some kind of psychological relief to always put the blame on others?

Bold: Yep It's well known MA have "watchers". I'm convinced the system runs at a normalised return, with the ability to manually trigger special loots. It would make sense then MA can sleep at night..lol

Every single player thinks how the loot system might work, no one has the facts. Which makes us all tin foil hat wearers. I just like to think a lot, normal human behaviour.

Besides I wasn't knocking the game, more saying the game will highly likely compensate you if you really went hardcore for the loot, and that I don't care if compensation loots happen for people, because it can happen to all of us.

Glass half full than negativity.

Rick
 
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Bold: Yep It's well known MA have a "watchers". I'm convinced the system runs at a normalised return, with the ability to manually trigger special loots. It would make sense then MA could sleep at night..lol

Every single player thinks how the loot system might works, no one has the facts. Which makes us all tin foil hat wearers. I just like to think a lot, normal human behaviour.

Besides I wasn't knocking the game, more saying the game will highly likely compensate you if you really went hardcore for the loot, and that I don't care if compensation loots happen for people, because it can happen to all of us.

Glass half full than negativity.

Rick

Dirty mind!
 
Is this thread also on a 'wave': the 'when can we write stuff for a few hours wave'?
Anyway, I actually think the general topic of corruption is pretty interesting. Does it start at favouritism? If so, then that happens all the time all over the place in my opinion. It is often no more than 'being nice professionally instead of personally', using knowledge and powers from a particular job and being nice to people you come into contact with.
After that you start to get into the world of being able to achieve more because of your connections to insiders - and the slippery slope lubes up.
I won't invest any more into this thread right now - the wave is ending soon, is it not? ;)
GL!
 
Dirty mind!

I've been in EU over 10 years and seen everything, experienced everything, skilled everything, watched the system adjust change and develop. Been so immersed into it at times that the slightest adjustment to anything, armour skills, weapons, loot, mob defense, player defence is instantly recognisable.

Watched and competed in 1000's of events, hunted for probably tens of thousands of hours, so I'm entitled to an opinion, I've earned it. You joined the forum in 2016, I don't no how long you've been here in the actual game, but as is often said; unless you've been here 5 years, you're still a noob.

Good day to you too.

Rick
 
I've been in EU over 10 years and seen everything, experienced everything, skilled everything, watched the system adjust change and develop. Been so immersed into it at times that the slightest adjustment to anything, armour skills, weapons, loot, mob defense, player defence is instantly recognisable.

Watched and competed in 1000's of events, hunted for probably tens of thousands of hours, so I'm entitled to an opinion, I've earned it. You joined the forum in 2016, I don't no how long you've been here in the actual game, but as is often said; unless you've been here 5 years, you're still a noob.

Good day to you too.

Rick

True, below your name in forums it says "Elite" and mine says "Mature", clear sign that you know better than me everything about this game.

Will keep up my progress meanwhile I listen the wise words that players like you write in this forum.

Thanks for clarify it and good luck.
 
No, no it's not. I call it complete bullshit until you provide any evidence.
not evidence of anything... but...

there IS definitely long time confirmation that 'watchers' are among usThey walk among us thread on Entropia Planets

there IS long term confirmation that Planet Partners control loot tables...
http://narfi-willem.blogspot.com/2011/05/may-2011-q-from-neverdie.html
Internet Archive Link

19. Once and for all who determines items that drop in RT/NI loot is it MA or NDS (For example if you wanted to add A-3 punisher MKII to drop from Forum trolls is it you guys or MA who would add this)

We determine which Mobs drop which items, that is essential for game design, we don't control how or when, so we can't predict when something will drop

there also IS long term confirmation that certain types of 'compensation' has happened in the past for various things...
Historic Compensation Notes:
http://www.entropiaplanets.com/wiki/11.2.0
Compensation for reinserting Mindforce implant from before 10.0 is handed out. If you are affected you will receive a message when logging in.
Compensation for inactive hangars will be handed out. If you are affected you will receive a message when logging in.

http://www.entropiawiki.com/Info.aspx?chart=VU&id=18
Share owners
All avatars owning shares from
the time the Project Entropia Exchange was in operation will have their
shares reimbursed at twice the purchase sum. The shares are then
removed from Project Entropia. The Exchange is closed but may be
reopened in a later VU.
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?124918-B-Shopkeepers-5k&p=1514504&viewfull=1#post1514504
08-31-2008, 14:58
B: Shopkeepers @ 5k
Found out yesterday Hades Booth owners got FREE shopkeepers on the VU to compensate for the booth bug. Should mean ~20 new
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?15104-Removal-of-Personal-Revival-
Removal of Personal Revival Terminals
It has been some rumors about removal of personal revival terminals and I got copy of something interesting here:
MindArk wrote,
"We need to inform you about an item in your possession. The management has decided that the personal revival terminals

will not again be made operational and therefore we will now buy this item back from you.
You may choose between the sum of 5000 PED OR a Powerful Resurrection Chip. Please respons to this by sending us a support

ticket within the next four weeks and let us know which of these two options you prefer."
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?212320-quot-Any-irregularities-found-will-be-adjusted-
When that auction bug happened, one that froze the auction and didn`t allow people to further bid on the items, MA undone the auctions, giving back the items to ppl which sold for very low price. Maybe not really a compensation but at least took active role.

I guess you can also take the tp fees split between hangars as a form of compensation.

Also when that eMine event took place, MA compensated those who got screwed by overpaying for quest items due to MA`s fault. Some extra eMine sets were given as compensation.

Deer shop owners also got a Deer mall as compensation for their shop being removed, basically got a much better location with improved access.
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?212320-quot-Any-irregularities-found-will-be-adjusted-quot&p=2751890&viewfull=1#post2751890https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...ers-forgoten&p=2166285&viewfull=1#post2166285

and there IS confirmation that some things don't always go as Mindark or Planet Partners planned them to happen...
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...ction-RT-LAs&p=2795526&viewfull=1#post2795526

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...ider-trading&p=2688146&viewfull=1#post2688146

and, no, this type of discussion is not 'new' by any means
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...osen-Avatars&p=3431713&viewfull=1#post3431713

See what we mean?....

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As far as idiocy goes... no one is really an idiot. Everyone just has different levels of perception...
 
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I've been in EU over 10 years and seen everything, experienced everything, skilled everything, watched the system adjust change and develop. Been so immersed into it at times that the slightest adjustment to anything, armour skills, weapons, loot, mob defense, player defence is instantly recognisable.

Watched and competed in 1000's of events, hunted for probably tens of thousands of hours, so I'm entitled to an opinion, I've earned it. You joined the forum in 2016, I don't no how long you've been here in the actual game, but as is often said; unless you've been here 5 years, you're still a noob.

Good day to you too.

Rick

You'd be surprised how much more Surya understands the game in approx a year of playing, compared to you. Your 10 years of gaming got you nowhere, you understand nothing and talk nonsense on every topic about the game. You are entitled ofc, but you would benefit from Surya's knowledge because your opinions are kinda wrong. All of them, even with your tens of thousands of hunting and thousands of events you participated in.


On topic, - cannot agree more with Ace here - and this forum, used to be a source of great information for newbies, so many nice guides, many nice people helping, but now...

 
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Every single player thinks how the loot system might work, no one has the facts. Which makes us all tin foil hat wearers. I just like to think a lot, normal human behaviour.
Then you don't understand the expression. Tin foil hat wearers are people with "paranoia, persecutory delusions, belief in pseudoscience and conspiracy theories". You absolutely fit at least one of these. Analysing how a system might work is something else.

Also a massive ditto on Evey's post above.


not evidence of anything... but there is definitely long time confirmation that 'watchers' are among usThey walk among us thread on Entropia Planets
Come on. Rick was clearly referring to 'watchers' as employees monitoring people's returns and taking action on an individual case basis. Not the type of test drivers and community support avatars that article is referring to.

EDIT: And as response to your edited version of your post; still not talking about the same thing. Rick is talking compensation coming out of the loot system. Not compensation for bugs or stuff they needed to remove, that's completely different and perfectly fine.
 
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please show us some proof items were sold and if they sold their items show proof they withdrew peds and stopped playing the game.
Otherwise stop speculating what others do when you have no fucking clue.

For starters, it's very hard to come with proof, on the other hand, if you've known certain ava's for over 7 years, you kinda know when the owners switch just by talking to them & watching them play.

In order to come with that kind of evidence would also mean I have to name those ava's & that is not allowed on this forum.
 
Never have and still am not convinced they are corrupt as there is no proof of it. But RCE as a money related thing is all about trust, and mine went quite downhill when got proof MA are meeting with players based on unknown selection criteria with no transparency on the meeting content.
Imho both parties in these meetings acted / are acting irresponsibly, as such meetings only add heat to the extreme theories and stories out there (EMW being recent example). And again, meeting with players is an realy valuable thing to close the gap between players and developers. Just do it openly.
Like it is now, most will suppose that there is at least some inside info being leaked, intentionally or not.
P.S.
Also still supporting avatars changing owners as long as it is done properly (decaying skills, changing name, legal agreement, fees as needed). Free market ftw. New owners being assholes is not the same subject, the right to sell/buy assets should be there bulk or not.
I cannot believe anyone would play this game, if they truly believed MA were corrupt. Don't get me wrong, i think they can be stupid, and make silly decisions, ALOT, but corrupt???
 
No, no it's not. I call it complete bullshit until you provide any evidence.

I can provide evidence, but I won't ...smiles.

Just the same I know quite a few sold ava accounts, quite a few to the same person but I won't name people.

Just the same as some LA owners have multiple avas, all of which are ubers.

Jut the same that certain large assets in game belong to Ma family members.

Just the same I know of gifted items, and huge hofs that occurred on LA's that don't show up on the global board, because I've "seen" the videos..... but I wont provide the data.

Just the same as I know many players that work directly with MA...but it's not my place to name them. Even photographic evidence.

You know much of the old community knows how it rolls, and maybe you're intention is to cover it up by attempting to discredit me. If anything what I've witnessed and seen creates a tin foil hat view point.

But like I said I really don't care. I'm not moaning about it. I just tick along doing my thing, the game survives, roll on.

Rick
 
I can provide evidence, but I won't ...smiles.

Just the same I know quite a few sold ava accounts, quite a few to the same person but I won't name people.

Just the same as some LA owners have multiple avas, all of which are ubers.

Jut the same that certain large assets in game belong to Ma family members.

Just the same I know of gifted items, and huge hofs that occurred on LA's that don't show up on the global board, because I've "seen" the videos..... but I wont provide the data.

Just the same as I know many players that work directly with MA...but it's not my place to name them. Even photographic evidence.

You know much of the old community knows how it rolls, and maybe you're intention is to cover it up by attempting to discredit me. If anything what I've witnessed and seen creates a tin foil hat view point.

But like I said I really don't care. I'm not moaning about it. I just tick along doing my thing, the game survives, roll on.

Rick

You actually discredit yourself by rambling on about various unverified events without any proof whatsoever. Usually such bullshit is reserved for media and politicians.
 
I'd expect a little corruption in any medium-large business.
 
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I can provide evidence, but I won't ...smiles.

Just the same I know quite a few sold ava accounts, quite a few to the same person but I won't name people.

Just the same as some LA owners have multiple avas, all of which are ubers.

Jut the same that certain large assets in game belong to Ma family members.

Just the same I know of gifted items, and huge hofs that occurred on LA's that don't show up on the global board, because I've "seen" the videos..... but I wont provide the data.

Just the same as I know many players that work directly with MA...but it's not my place to name them. Even photographic evidence.

You know much of the old community knows how it rolls, and maybe you're intention is to cover it up by attempting to discredit me. If anything what I've witnessed and seen creates a tin foil hat view point.

But like I said I really don't care. I'm not moaning about it. I just tick along doing my thing, the game survives, roll on.

Rick

I smell pirates.....would the real "Gustav Skytte" please sta.............
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Flag_of_Edward_England.svg
 
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So much idiocy in this topic... Wait what, it is the topic!? :laugh:

Well then, I would say I'm not certain if Rick's 1st post (about compensations) fits in. I suppose he has a point there, as long as you consider automated balancing mechanisms?

* * *

As far as I'm concerned, all the talk about "feeling the subtle differences", is always a proof the speaker never realized what the scientific method means. Two words: empirical evidence. You can have "very strong gut feeling" but it means absolutely nothing without any data to support it.

But maybe I'm wrong, and the guys with gut feelings are right? It's possible. That's why we have this huge test lab here, called EU. Your results will sort it out eventually, one way or another... :cool:
 
empirical evidence. You can have "very strong gut feeling" but it means absolutely nothing without any data to support it.

Well, no. It depends on what data goes into your mind. The person is not running on "without any data".
Let's say you repeatedly watch something where you expect a 50-50 outcome, say red-black.
You watch in batches of 100 or so runs.
After 10 batches you can remember that red was more than 50 in 8 runs.
That happens again and again.
After a while you don't know if you have seen 100 batches or 110 - you weren't being exact enough in gathering empirical evidence, but you know reasonably accurately what you have witnessed.

You decide after even more again and agains that you have a very strong gut feeling, but being honest about it, you would only be able to estimate your margin of error. As the number of events (semi-)tracked is pretty high by now, statistical probability assertions for what you have seen may be outside even your margin of error.

Damn, I should have tracked things more precisely... but I still say what I have seen is significant. EU is a bit like that....!
 
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