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Ichi

Ichi

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Humble Ichi San
I have decided to start a hunting log. I am level 47 BLP Sniper (HIT) and Level 42 BLP (DMG). I am level 27 Evader and level 16 Dodger. I have 144 HP (<----These will be updated as I level up)

I have an unlimited Tier 7 Calytrek CR Spirit MKI which I will be doing most hunts with. The weapon is maxed. Depending on the mob/maturity I may or may not use damage enhancers in one or more slots. When I do I will note how many broke during the hunt. I use a finisher weapon tailored to the mob, usually a Binary Mayhem R1, R2, or R3.

I have 2 Fi/Ra/Co Beast amps and 1 Fi/Ra/Co Dante amp.

I have several different sets of armor: Pixie, Adjusted Pixie, Shogun, Vigilante, Gremlin and Mah'ketta.
I have full sets of Pulsar Plate 2, 5b and 6a plates.
I have a Berserkers Helm (5% faster reload).
I have a Modified Ares Ring which is worn every hunt for the faster reload.

I own a Modified EMT Kit EK-2350 FAP.

I have accepted every iron mission from the hunting challenge terminal, and most of my hunts will be in pursuit of completion of those missions. My goal with iron missions is to get Evade skill, so if that is available I take that as a reward, and if not then i take something that contributes toward Evader profession. If tokens are offered i usually take those along with skill that meets the above criteria. I also do all daily missions i am capable of doing, including the Feffoid cave.


Wish me luck!
 
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Daily Hunting Challenge 3
Goal: 100 Rexteleum

Globals:
76 ped

loot
110.28 ped

Initial Supply of Ammo: -307.87 ped
decay -75.98 ped
Broke 8 enhancers -22.4


Profit/Loss this run: -295.97
Running Total profit/loss: -295.97
 
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Daily Challenge 1
Goal: 50 Mourners

Gear:
Armor - none
Binary Mayhem R3 Main weapon
Herman Ark-0 finisher
Mod 2350 FAP

Globals:
none

loot 57.58

decay -3.39
ammo used -40.92

Profit/Loss this run: +13.27
Profit/Loss Running Total: -282.7












Daily Hunting Challenge 2
Goal: 80 Gokibusagi

Gear:
Shogun armor
Mod 2350 Fap
Binary Mayhem r3 main weapon
Binary Mayhem r1 secondary weapon
Herman Ark-0 finisher weapon

Globals:
none

loot
102.62

decay -14.36
initial ammo value -88.41

Profit/Loss this run: -0.15
Profit/Loss Running Total: -282.85

Notes: hit 142 health














Feffoid Cave Daily
Goal: Get the Crystals

Armor - none
[Isis LBC 25 (L)] with Beast amp
[Binary Mayhem R2 (L)]

Globals:
none


loot 15.40

decay -7.04
used ammo value: -28.53

Profit/Loss this run: -20.17
Profit/Loss Running Total: -303.02
















Mob: Feffox

Gear Used:
[CalyTrek CR Spirit MK.I] with Beast amp and 6 slots of damage enhancers main weapon
[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)] finisher weapon
Armor: Mah'ketta + 5b plates
Mod 2350 FAP

Globals:
91 mature
68 mature
76 mature
92 young
173 old
56 young
74 young


loot
761.61


decay -116.84
initial value of ammo: -576.93
broke 12 enhancers -36

Profit/Loss this run: +31.84
Profit/Loss Running Total: -271.18

Notes: [CalyTrek CR Spirit MK.I] reached tier 6.9 and has been upgraded to tier 7
 
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Ichi said:
Daily Hunting Challenge 3
Goal: 100 Rexteleum

Globals:
76 ped

loot
110.28 ped

Initial Supply of Ammo: -307.87 ped
decay -75.98 ped
Broke 8 enhancers -22.4


Profit/Loss this run: -295.97
Running Total profit/loss: -295.97
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so you are saying that in the 99 other kills besides your global, you only received 34.28 ped?
I call bs. considering those mobs are roughly 3.5 ped to kill if you are killing the smallest mobs, you are saying your loot was consistently no higher than 9.7% return on each of those kills outside of the 76 ped global.
 
Anthas said:
so you are saying that in the 99 other kills besides your global, you only received 34.28 ped?
I call bs. considering those mobs are roughly 3.5 ped to kill if you are killing the smallest mobs, you are saying your loot was consistently no higher than 9.7% return on each of those kills outside of the 76 ped global.
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i started the hunt with 307.87 ped ammo, then when i ran out i converted looted shrapnel over and over until the 100 Rex were killed. The numbers you see in the log are the final value of loots plus remaining ammo minus decay and minus enhancers broken. I don't note shrapnel converted since it is being used and it cancels out, see?


the value labeled Loot is remaining ammo+ all loot
the value labeled Ammo Used is the initial supply of ammo

also, i was killing maturities of weak through ravager, not all weaks
 
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Ichi said:
i started the hunt with 307.87 ped ammo, then when i ran out i converted looted shrapnel over and over until the 100 Rex were killed. The numbers you see in the log are the final value of loots plus remaining ammo minus decay and minus enhancers broken. I don't note shrapnel converted since it is being used and it cancels out, see?


the value labeled Loot is remaining ammo+ all loot
the value labeled Ammo Used is the initial supply of ammo

also, i was killing maturities of weak through ravager, not all weaks
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well as far as your shrapnel conversion canceling it out, it only cancels it out if you had the amount converted to your loot as well as your total ammo spent. if you do not then do not have an accurate representation of returns. you must either not convert, or you have to add to ammo used AND total loot.

edit: all you are showing is your return OUTSIDE of shrapnel. I understand your thought process but it is flawed and giving you a misrepresentation of your actual stats.

that being said, your returns are much different than stated. I would be interested to know your actual results with the proper mathematics used in the equations.
 
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Anthas said:
well as far as your shrapnel conversion canceling it out, it only cancels it out if you had the amount converted to your loot as well as your total ammo spent. if you do not then do not have an accurate representation of returns. you must either not convert, or you have to add to ammo used AND total loot.

edit: all you are showing is your return OUTSIDE of shrapnel. I understand your thought process but it is flawed and giving you a misrepresentation of your actual stats.

that being said, your returns are much different than stated. I would be interested to know your actual results with the proper mathematics used in the equations.
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if i start out the hunt with 100 ammo, then proceed to loot 100 shrapnel and convert it and continue hunting and end the hunt with 100 more loot, it can look 2 ways, lets say i had 20 ped decay:

My method:
Loot +100
Initial supply of ammo -100
Decay: -20
Profit/Loss: -20



Method 2:
Initial supply of ammo: -100
Loot: 100
Converted 100 ped shrapnel +101
Used -101 ped universal ammo
Decay -20
profit/loss: -20




See? the end result is exactly the same. The results at the end are all that is needed, no need to clutter up the log with data that cancels out.

Also, as I stated, if there is ammo left over after the hunt it is added to loot, so no matter how many times i convert the shrapnel all that matters is the amount left over, if any, at the end of the hunt, and it is accounted for in the Loot if there is any left over.
 
Anthas said:
well, I tried. I give up though. Good luck and HoF big Ichi.
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if you see a flaw in my logic please explain it to me. I am not against change if i am wrong. I simply do not see the point in doing it your way vs mine.

it clutters up the log imo for instance the rexteleum run i did i converted the shrapnel like 6 times before i had killed the 100th one, and i added what ammo i had left to the total loot. if i had noted every time i converted the ammo thats 6 more lines of txt only to have had 99% of that converted ammo used up and thus cancelled out.
 
Anthas said:
well, I tried. I give up though. Good luck and HoF big Ichi.
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Ok, from now on I am going to add shrapnel that I convert to the Total Loot, and add the universal ammo to Total Ammo Used. I do not see how it changes the final Profit/Loss calculation, but will do it anyway.
 
Mob: Feffox

enhancers:
start 18,23,22,5,19,12,20
stop 18,22,22,5,18,12,18

Start of hunt ammo:
349.03 ua
2.19
shrapnel converted to:
145.22 ua
213.70
72.78
17.68
10.36

Ammo left over @ end of hunt +2.35

Total Ammo Burned: -808.61


Globals:
146 old
58 mature

loot
143.78 converted shrap
211.59 converted shrap
72.06 converted shrap
17.51 converted shrap
10.26 converted shrap
other loot 234.92

TOTAL LOOT (Converted Shrap + other) +690.12

Weapons used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)] 6.48
end 6.00
total decay -83.44

Decay + Ammo Burned = -892.05

4 enhancers broke: -12

TOTAL LOOT - DECAY AND AMMO BURNED - enhancers broken: -213.93


Profit/Loss this run: -213.93
Profit/Loss running total: -485.11
 
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Recording or not recording converted shrapnel doesn't affect your absolute profit/loss. The total amount of TT gained or lost is the same either way.

It does affect your % return however. If you want to calculate that properly, you need to account for the converted shrapnel by adding it your totals as you've done in the latest post.

Since you haven't been posting the % return in your results anyway, your earlier posts aren't wrong, but they're not as informative as that most recent one.
 
Can't see anything wrong to what you were doing before.
If you start with X peds,even if you convert shrap 7 times,you end up with Y peds...Y-X=Z which is your loss or gain.Simple and very accurate math.
 
Oleg said:
Recording or not recording converted shrapnel doesn't affect your absolute profit/loss. The total amount of TT gained or lost is the same either way.

It does affect your % return however. If you want to calculate that properly, you need to account for the converted shrapnel by adding it your totals as you've done in the latest post.

Since you haven't been posting the % return in your results anyway, your earlier posts aren't wrong, but they're not as informative as that most recent one.
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Well I dont even know how to calculate % return, but since the data is useful to some I will continue in the manner of my last post.
 
Daily Hunting Challenges

Daily Hunting Challenge 1
Goal: 50 Fugabarba

Initial Ammo Supply:
3.56 ua
70.05 blp

end ammo: 43.49 blp
shrapnel converted: none

Ammo burned: -30.20

Weapons used:
[Herman ARK-0 (L)] start tt 1.89 stop tt 1.77
[Binary Mayhem R2 (L)] start tt 15.05 stop tt 14.99
[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)] start tt 6.00 stop tt 4.77

Total weapon decay: -1.41

Globals:
none

loot 20.79


decay -2.40

Total decay and ammo burned: -34.01

Profit/Loss this run: -13.22
Profit/Loss Running Total: -498.33

Notes: had to kill a few other mobs while looking for the fuga: drones, aetherex, caudatergus

















Daily Hunting Challenge 2
Goal: 50 Fungoid


Ammo:
12.34 ua
50.49 blp

end ammo: 14.07


shrapnel converted to ammo:
20.65 ua
7.95 ua
2.40 ua

Total Ammo Burned: -79.76


Weapons Used:
[S & B Ardenner 25 (L)] Start TT 21.91 Stop 12.71 Decay -9.2
[Binary Mayhem R2 (L)] start 14.99 Stop 14.82 Decay -0.16

Globals:
none

loot
20.45 shrap converted
7.87 shrap converted
2.37 shrap converted

13.80 oils
4.52 shrap

Total Loot: 49.01

Total decay (weapons and FAP) -10.41

Profit/Loss this run: -41.16
Profit/Loss running total: -539.49
 
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Daily Hunting Challenge 3
Goal: 50 Caperon
Maturity Hunted: Young


enhancers:
Start 18,22,22,5,18,12,18
Stop 18,21,22,5,17,12,18
Enhancers Broken: 2 value -6

Start Ammo:
1.04 ua
914.06 blp

end ammo:
702.83 blp

Total Ammo Used:
-212.27

Weapons used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)]
Start TT 4.77
Stop TT 4.45

Globals: none

loot 204.83

decay -33.78

Profit/Loss this run: -47.22
Profit/Loss running total: -586.71
 
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Did you track b4 this log?
 
no, i started a log a few days before this one and realized i had not been subtracting ammo used, so i started this new log and asked the mods to delete the other one.
 
Daily Hunting Challenge 3
100 Maffoid
Maturity Hunted: Outcast-Raider

enhancers:
18,21
18,21
enhancers broken: none

start ammo:
702.83 blp

end ammo:
483.38 blp

total ammo burned:
-219.45

Weapons used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)]
Start TT 4.45
Stop TT 3.85

Globals: none


loot 166.83

Total Decay -40.69

Profit/Loss this run: -93.31
Profit/Loss running total: -680.02
 
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Daily Hunting Challenge 2
Goal: 100 Trooper Robots
Maturity Hunted: Gen 01

Ammo:
298.72 ua
483.38 blp

end ammo:
172.15 ua
483.38 blp

Total Ammo Burned: -126.57

Weapons used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)]
Start TT 3.85
Stop TT 3.19

Globals: none


loot +158.44

Total Decay -31.57

Profit/Loss this run: +0.30
Profit/Loss running total: -679.72
 
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Feffoid Cave


start ammo:
261.38 ua
483.38 blp

end ammo:
244.87 ua
483.38 blp

Total ammo used: -16.51

Weapons Used:
[Binary Mayhem R2 (L)]
Start value 14.82
Stop Value 14.75
decay -0.07

[Isis LBC 25 (L)]
Start value 34.06
Stop Value 31.67
decay -2.39

Globals: none


loot 30.85

total decay: -6.85

Profit/Loss this run: +7.50
Profit/Loss running total: -672.22
 
Daily Hunting Challenge 1
Goal: 50 Fugabarba


Start ammo:
244.87 ua
483.38 blp

end ammo:
212.90 ua
483.38 blp

Total ammo used: -31.97

Weapons Used:
[Binary Mayhem R2 (L)]
Start tt 14.75
Stop tt 14.49
decay -0.26

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)]
Start tt 3.19
Stop tt 1.83
decay -2.26

[Herman ARK-0 (L)]
Start tt 1.77
Stop tt 1.73
decay -0.04

Globals: none


loot 37.11

Total decay -3.20

Profit/Loss this run: +1.94
Profit/Loss running total: -670.28

NOTES: Had to kill several Aethrex, Drones, Caudatergus
 
Ichi said:
Well I dont even know how to calculate % return, but since the data is useful to some I will continue in the manner of my last post.
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% return is simply loot/costs.
 
Mob: Feffox

enhancers:
18,21,22,5,17,12,18
17,19,21,3,15,11,17
Broke 10 enhancers -30

Start ammo:
243.52 ua
483.38 blp

end ammo:
1.02 blp

Total ammo used: -725.88


Weapons used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)] 1.83 0.78
decay -1.05

Globals:
138 young
74 old
78 mature
50 young
52 mature
72 old
173 young

total loot 1145.13

Total decay -126.83

Profit/Loss this run: +262.42
Profit/Loss running total: -407.86

NOTES: Reached LVL 41 Ranged BLP (DMG)
 
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Daily Challenge 1
Goal: 50 Snarksnot

Start ammo:
820.86 ua
1.02 blp

end ammo:
804.60 ua
1.02 blp

Total ammo burned: -16.26

Weapons Used:
[Binary Mayhem R1 (L)]
Start tt 7.81
Stop tt 7.66
decay -0.15
[Herman ARK-0 (L)]
Start tt 1.73
Stop tt 1.45
decay -0.28

Globals: none

loot 8.78

Total decay -0.99

Profit/Loss this run: -8.47
Profit/Loss running total: -416.33
 
Daily Hunting Challenge 3
Goal: 100 Itumatrox
Maturities Hunted: 97 Young 3 Mature

Start ammo:
809.97 ua

end ammo:
597.77 ua

Total ammo used: -212.2

shrapnel converted to:


Weapons Used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)]
Start tt 22.70
Stop tt 21.96
decay -0.74


Globals: none

loot 207.92

Decay: -16.1

Profit/Loss this run: -20.38
Profit/Loss running total: -436.71

NOTES: Reached Lvl 46 BLP Sniper. Killed several Atrax and a Hiryuu
 
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Mob: Feffox
Maturities Hunted: 95% young and mature 5% old and provider



enhancers:
17,19,21,3,15,11,17
17,19,20,3,15,11,17
enhancers broken: 1 value: -3

Start ammo:
691.99 ua

end ammo:
3.26 ua

Total Ammo used: 688.73

Weapons Used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)]
Start tt 21.96
Stop tt 21.31


Globals:
67 young
80 young

loot 637.39

Total decay 130.98

Profit/Loss this run -185.71
Profit/Loss running total: -604.04
 
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Mob: Feffox

enhancers:

17,19,20,3,15,11,17
17,19,19,3,14,11,17
Enhancers broke: 1 value -3

Start ammo:
444.50 ua
1.02 blp

end ammo:
4.10 ua

Total ammo used: -440.4

Weapons Used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)]
Start tt 21.31
Stop tt 20.75
decay -0.56

Globals:
1136 young <My 1st UBER!
159 old

loot 1522.45

Total decay 76.98

Profit/Loss this run +1002.07
Profit/Loss running total: +398.03
 
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Mob: Feffox
Maturities Hunted: Mostly Young-Old, plus a couple Providers.

enhancers:
17,19,19,3,14,11,17
14,19,17,1,13,10,17
Enhancers broken: 9 value: -27

Start ammo:
1093.59 ua

end ammo:
97.89 ua

Total ammo burned: -995.7

Weapons Used:
Calytrek CR Spirit MKI w/ Beast amp

[Binary Mayhem R3 (L)]
Start tt 20.75
Stop tt 19.98
decay: -0.77

Globals:
479 Old
51 Mature
57 young

loot 1312.98

Total Decay: -177.44

Profit/Loss this run: +112.84
Profit/Loss running total: +510.87

NOTES: Stage 3 Feffox Iron Mission completed, selected Athletics as reward, pushed me to lvl 27 Evader.
 
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